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I love you all including landgrabber but why the gently caress do you keep telling them to listen to jazz lol like jazz is my JAM. I think it’s a genre that fully and directly interacts with music on a level that no other genre does. But if it doesn’t vibe with someone they don’t need to waste time there, go towards what the ear wants. Lg is too hard headed we gotta play the long jazz game anyway  lg I know it’s just a meme at this point to work in me telling you to do ear training but it keeps sounding like you’re trying to write from an intellectual theory based place and well, that’s a real rough place to write from. Grab some chords, move them around, use your ears. Play some random progressions without overthinking what they are and hum some melodies over them. Do you have a daw + some sort of drums? Sketch out some basic songs and build them up. Spend some time with like 4 measures of a verse progression you like and improvise over it, stay simple like you’re trying to come up with the catchiest vocal melody anyone’s ever heard. That sort of thing, pushing your creative playing and writing towards a more lively musical on the fly spot is where you’ll work out some of these issues, at least if you’re anything like me. I don’t want to act like your guitar teacher but it just sounds like you’re avoiding the unknown deep water by trying to intellectually prepare for making good music. Unfortunately, and fortunately if you can realize the fun in it, you often need to dive in without knowing what to expect and build your knowledge through direct experience.
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May 13, 2021 19:46
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If you keep trying to write music and keep finding yourself gravitating towards existing songs, maybe intentionally pick a song and remix it to a different style. Something like that could maybe be a good exercise. But also if you pick some random chords and realize its already a song, just keep going. Take one chord out, change up the rhythm, suddenly its a whole new song. Tons of existing songs sound similar to other songs just don't directly copy the melody and you're alright.
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May 13, 2021 19:51
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I have a medical condition which means I’m only ever going to play guitar left handed (I can’t twist my left arm to have the hand facing ‘up’). So sidestepping the ‘just play right-handed you fool’ argument, is there any pressing reason why a left-handed gs mini mahogany for $500 is a bad idea for a bored WFHer who wants a guitar to mess around on? I guess I mean “are there any obviously superior alternatives”, not “tell me I shouldn’t blow $500 on a passing whim to finally get decent at guitar”.
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May 13, 2021 19:56
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There are a million great $500 acoustic guitars, including the GS Mini, by all accounts. If you like the feel of that size/scale body you won't be disappointed, but if you think you'd prefer something larger you have options like crazy.
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May 13, 2021 19:59
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PatentPending posted:I have a medical condition which means I’m only ever going to play guitar left handed (I can’t twist my left arm to have the hand facing ‘up’). So sidestepping the ‘just play right-handed you fool’ argument, is there any pressing reason why a left-handed gs mini mahogany for $500 is a bad idea for a bored WFHer who wants a guitar to mess around on? i've had the same $300 takamine acoustic for like 12 years now and i've never felt the need to upgrade. can't say anything about that specific guitar but it's probably just fine!
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May 13, 2021 20:00
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I do really like the idea of the gs mini’s size... but I should probably sit on it for a while and see if that goes away. It DOES feel a little wasteful to spend $200 on ‘a bit smaller than usual’.
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May 13, 2021 20:07
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I love my GS Mini but I did specifically want a smaller size acoustic. If the smaller size isn't a necessity for you and you want to get something a little more affordable but still good quality, you have plenty of options. I can personally vouch for Yamaha acoustics, but I'm sure other posters here will have other brands they can recommend.
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May 13, 2021 20:12
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I like my Little Martin just fine, but it sits funny in my lap and the shorter scale is a little flabby. It's already moved into my "I can sell it for about what I paid for it" mental pile, which means it's ultimately doomed but not yet. If it were my only acoustic I'd be more unhappy with it. e: I got it as a couch-sitter, but I think I would ultimately have been happier with a full-scale 14-fret parlour. Live and learn. Huxley fucked around with this message at 20:26 on May 13, 2021 |
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May 13, 2021 20:16
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Kilometers Davis posted:I love you all including landgrabber but why the gently caress do you keep telling them to listen to jazz lol like jazz is my JAM. I think it’s a genre that fully and directly interacts with music on a level that no other genre does. But if it doesn’t vibe with someone they don’t need to waste time there, go towards what the ear wants. Lg is too hard headed we gotta play the long jazz game anyway i am absolutely putting off the deep water right now because i have a million other things happening in my life and i wish i could write songs to get it off my chest. having a couple weeks to finish school and graduate and get all my poo poo together doesn't exactly make it encouraging to go deep back into practice stuff again. i'm not sure why me talking about the theoretical approach here makes everyone think that's how i write. i'm trying to internalize all that poo poo when i'm not writing, so that when i am writing, it comes natural, it's part of it all.
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May 13, 2021 20:18
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Wowporn posted:I am very afraid you are setting yourself up for a harsh disappointment with this attitude; The idea that early 20s is "late" to become a millionaire rockstar is a horrifically high bar to hold yourself to. In my experience the vast majority of people do not have the ability to have and conceive of appealing musical ideas that young no matter how much chops they may have or how hard they have studied music, and many don't have those benefits. Some do but you shouldn't force it if it doesn't happen yet. i'm not at all trying to be a millionare rockstar, if i wouldn't have put off learning to sing while playing for the last three years. and i would've gone to the dentist more and quit drinking soda so i wouldn't be insecure about my teeth every time i open my mouth. i like writing songs and i want to write songs i'd actually listen to if i didn't make them. that's kind of the baseline for any sort of creative pursuit.
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May 13, 2021 20:31
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Kilometers Davis posted:I love you all including landgrabber but why the gently caress do you keep telling them to listen to jazz lol like jazz is my JAM. I think it’s a genre that fully and directly interacts with music on a level that no other genre does. But if it doesn’t vibe with someone they don’t need to waste time there, go towards what the ear wants. Lg is too hard headed we gotta play the long jazz game anyway I just don't think there's anybody on earth who can't find some jazz they vibe with. Jazz is such a huge and varied genre. Jazz can be almost anything. "I don't like jazz" usually means "I don't like the jazz I've heard in moves and TV" in my experience, which is just a tiny sliver of what the genre has to offer.
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May 13, 2021 20:36
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i've come close enough enough times, with enough frequency, to writing a song, or writing a good song, that i KNOW it's something that's in me somewhere. it feels kind of like part of my brain can write songs i'd be happy to stand by, but the conscious part where my inner monologue is can't access it, but i know it's there. like if a bridge between two islands collapsed or something. and that's what makes it all the more frustrating that i can't get a song finished. i have strong scraps, and the scraps have gotten more significant over time. it used to be a lyric idea or a chord progression was all i had, and now i have like, a verse, or a hook, or an entire section of a song, as the scrap. it's just hard to progress. to some extent i wonder if it's an ADHD thing or just not being disciplined enough to actually keep working on my songs, because whenever i go listen to stuff in my demos folder i go "man some of this is actually pretty good". it just always feels like there's something missing. i have a good part of a song, and i can't figure out what the next part should be. or i have a melody i like, but i can't think of any lyrics to go with it. or i have lyrics i like, but i can't find harmony that sits with them like i want it to. it's like in resident evil when there's a thing you want in a room you can see into, but it's behind a locked door that you don't have the key to yet
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May 13, 2021 20:58
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Lester Shy posted:I just don't think there's anybody on earth who can't find some jazz they vibe with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtxsYF4e3uM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idGvKFbYgI4 The really free-flowing jazz stuff is hard to appreciate but Big Band Jazz is extremely cool and good. E: I was a trumpet player before I picked up guitar, can you tell? Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 21:05 on May 13, 2021 |
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May 13, 2021 21:01
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btw i hope it doesn't still seem like i'm melting down, because i'm actually fine, i just took concerta today so i'm verbose
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May 13, 2021 21:04
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landgrabber posted:btw i hope it doesn't still seem like i'm melting down, because i'm actually fine, i just took concerta today so i'm verbose You're alright so far, although considering the recent meltdown try to avoid double-posting or dominating the thread in general and people will probably razz you less.
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May 13, 2021 21:05
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landgrabber posted:it just always feels like there's something missing. i have a good part of a song, and i can't figure out what the next part should be. or i have a melody i like, but i can't think of any lyrics to go with it. or i have lyrics i like, but i can't find harmony that sits with them like i want it to. it's like in resident evil when there's a thing you want in a room you can see into, but it's behind a locked door that you don't have the key to yet lol, this happens to me every time i try to compose something. i really feel like i'm getting something good, and then...it just flattens out and i don't know what to do. it's part of the creative process and something that you can only conquer through lots of practice. some advice i read a while back: why would you try to write a good song? that's too hard. now, writing a bad song? anybody can do that. and if you try to write a bad song, you might realize it's harder than you thought - you'll probably end up with something good by mistake.
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May 13, 2021 21:10
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Any more tips on practicing the C chord? I'm slowly getting able to "imagine it" in my head most of the time, where I can make the hand shape to hit the right strings when I think about it, maybe 80% of the time without looking, but man, it really makes my left fretting wrist grumpy any particular stretches I can do? I tried following along with justinguitar in terms of having the fingers at an angle, but that doesn't feel like it makes it any better rather than having them mostly head on. Of course, most of that strain is alleviated if I bring the neck up so much I may as well be holding an upright bass. Maybe I just need to increase my range of motion more? Not sure how to do that other than just nose to the grind stone practicing more.
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May 13, 2021 21:13
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Of course, most of that strain is alleviated if I bring the neck up so much I may as well be holding an upright bass. angling your neck up is a big help, learn to play that way as soon as possible. it'll help you avoid injuries in the future you shouldn't have to press down on the frets very hard at all. make sure you're fretting right at the back of the fret (takes less effort), and that you're using the weight of your arm to do most of the work rather than gripping between your thumb and fingers like a vise.
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May 13, 2021 21:16
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Any more tips on practicing the C chord? Basically just gotta play D-C-D-C-D-C or G-C-G-C-G-C, things like that, a billion times until it becomes natural muscle memory. GreenBuckanneer posted:Not sure how to do that other than just nose to the grind stone practicing more. I think that's basically the answer  it'll come in time, can't rush it.
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May 13, 2021 21:19
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I literally just played Am C G over and over until muscle memory kicked in. It’s just repetition. Then start throwing in other random chords to break it up. Edit - this is also the reason I fret G without my index finger. It’s much easier to do 2-3-4 when you’re switching from C to G. deedee megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 21:27 on May 13, 2021 |
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May 13, 2021 21:24
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Tank is my go-to, "even people who don't like jazz like Tank" song. My contribution to hey try this jazz is 4 on 6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PD2Q7TXmvU Chameleon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbkqE4fpvdI Lingus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XJ_s5IsQc BOA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enX9Fr-I8MA All crazy different songs separated by more than 60 years.
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May 13, 2021 21:30
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I've posted this before but wanted to reiterate, it really is amazing what repetition and time will do for your playing ability. I came up with a cool bass riff last week that was really difficult to play, for me anyway, with a lot of string skipping and fast arpeggios in a scale I'm not used to at 184 bpm. I tried showing it to my band-mates last week but I kinda embarrassed myself, it was awful. I can only practice it for 10-15 minutes at a time because it tires me out quick and the last thing I need is a wrist injury, so what I did was I practiced it for 10 minutes about 3 times per day. Last night I tried it again with the band and it was flawless every time, it felt like the ghost of Lemmy had possessed my hands because there really wasn't a lot of conscious effort involved, I just flew right through it over and over. So yeah, +1 for practicing every single day, even if it's just for a few minutes. Your brain might forget half of what you practiced but your hands won't, especially if you do it every day.
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May 13, 2021 21:52
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it is counter intuitive but also taking a medium length (3-24 hr) break can help things sink in. especially when youre feeling stuck or frustrated with a new song or whatever youre working on.
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May 14, 2021 00:12
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a.p. dent posted:angling your neck up is a big help, learn to play that way as soon as possible. it'll help you avoid injuries in the future I got one of these to use when playing sitting down and I don't think I could play without it now. Or if I did, it would wreck my wrist.
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May 14, 2021 00:24
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Pondex posted:drat I want it, but in surf green
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Malaria posted:I want it, but in surf green off topic but i just want you to know i love your avatar
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May 14, 2021 00:57
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Out of curiosity, do the name brand floyds hold a tune better than the cheap ones?
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Mozi posted:I got one of these to use when playing sitting down and I don't think I could play without it now. Or if I did, it would wreck my wrist. i actually feel less strain with the neck more closer to perpendicular to the floor when im playing sitting down. aka the only way i play. it could be my extreme lankiness or i am just confused and actually doing irreparable damage to my wrist and hands. after almost a year of getting way back into the guitar im finally not feeling sore after practicing for the most part.
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thathonkey posted:it is counter intuitive but also taking a medium length (3-24 hr) break can help things sink in. especially when youre feeling stuck or frustrated with a new song or whatever youre working on. people make use of this all the time at music conservatories - it's known to be a critical step in getting any work done. i tell my students that any work you do in a single day will only count the next day, so if you skip multiple days of practice, you're losing out on potential rest processing time between lessons. I ended up buying that La Patrie dreadnought. It sounds quite nice, and much more to my taste than the Martin X series I used to own. It's been fun to compare it to my 2018 La Patrie nylon. The neck is predictably smaller, but overall profile is similar, and the fretboard is exactly the same in thickness. xpost from the gear wank thread: beer gas canister posted:$100 La Patrie steel string, from the early 90s. Kind of an oddball, there's little record of them on the net or in Godin's catalog. Bit of a dip next to the sound hole, but the braces aren't loose and it plays well, so I went for it. All cherry except for the fretboard, which is rosewood. Rather loud, bright tone, a little weak in the bass but that's fine for what I play. Nice beater. Looking forward to running it until it explodes. beer gas canister fucked around with this message at 01:16 on May 14, 2021 |
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Mozi posted:I got one of these to use when playing sitting down and I don't think I could play without it now. Or if I did, it would wreck my wrist. hell, yeah i use this one https://www.stringsbymail.com/ergoplay-troster-guitar-support-3737.html quote:i actually feel less strain with the neck more closer to perpendicular to the floor when im playing sitting down. aka the only way i play. it could be my extreme lankiness or i am just confused and actually doing irreparable damage to my wrist and hands. after almost a year of getting way back into the guitar im finally not feeling sore after practicing for the most part. as long as you aren't in pain, that's good, there's a lot of variation. just make sure you haven't gotten used to pain and learned to ignore it
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a.p. dent posted:just make sure you haven't gotten used to pain and learned to ignore it Hey don't doxx me
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:Out of curiosity, do the name brand floyds hold a tune better than the cheap ones? In general or over time? They should all be about equal when new the cheaper ones the knife edge isn't heat treated enough to be the proper hardness so over time that can wear out and lead to tuning issues.
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May 14, 2021 02:02
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Zaphod42 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtxsYF4e3uM Digging this so hard. Ferguson is new to me and Verdun is a place near and dear to me. He is such a virtuoso.
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former glory posted:Digging this so hard. Ferguson is new to me and Verdun is a place near and dear to me. He is such a virtuoso. Yeah dude! Absolute animal on the horn. He just keeps going up higher and higher octaves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHd3vzyM1fw
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Thumposaurus posted:In general or over time? They should all be about equal when new the cheaper ones the knife edge isn't heat treated enough to be the proper hardness so over time that can wear out and lead to tuning issues. The cheap one on my Jackson doesn't want to stay in tune, even after I've given it plenty of time to settle and the strings stretch. It usually falls flat a bit but it tends to stay locked in there pretty well once it does if I leave it alone. But if I fine tune it back up, it goes right back flat pretty quick. I think everything is set up well, the trem is level with the body, everything is locked down tight. It's really annoying. The guitar is pretty new. I really like it otherwise, I was considering at some point in the future putting a real floyd in it(I don't mind all the setting up and stuff, but would like if it would stay in tune somewhat okay afterward) and some better electronics in it, just as a cool little project to make it my "custom" guitar. Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 02:34 on May 14, 2021 |
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Try putting a little lube on the knife edges just like a drop of something light like 3 in 1 oil or sewing machine oil maybe not even a drop get some in the end of a q tip or tooth pick and run it over the edge see if that helps.
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You know, thanks for the jazz songs posted, they're cool. I've been trying to work my way through the trauma of having suffered through not one but two 15 minute+ jazz odysseys in my youth which did not endear me to the genre one bit. Thank Christ for Cowboy Bebop and swing jazz in general or I never would have pulled out of it.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Any more tips on practicing the C chord? A lot of the time I just cheat and play a G chord, but I move my middle and index fingers up a string each. I also play C and G chords most of the time with my ring finger on the 3rd fret of the B string which I think makes it sound a bit more fundamental. I have to say though, the best thing you can do is just keep moving between chords and integrating what you want to learn into the mix with stuff you're good at. Play play play. And don't get frustrated! These things come slow and being able to play it at all is better than what most people can do.
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