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Elyv posted:
Fighter, cleric, wizard, rogue, god that's the most blatant D&D party.
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Star Man posted:I'm indifferent to the 2016 Commander decks being four-color decks, but I imagine that all I'd do if I played the format is ask myself why I'm not just playing a five-color commander instead. It seems like the legendary creatures with the partner ability are a concession by Wizards that four-color cards are just unwieldy. Maro has talked about this before and definitely noted that because there's no guild/shard/clan identity, and because a 4 color card must, by necessity, be incredibly hard to cast, they always end up being really weird designs because they have to hit 4 points while also having a reason not to be the fifth color. There's just not enough design space without an identity to tie it to and I can't imagine ever wanting to somehow work an "everything but aggro" or whatever trapezoid into standard
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Oct 24, 2016 21:06
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Anil Dasharez0ne posted:Now here's a cost reduction mechanic we hope you'll really like. That's a weird rear end looking mana cost.
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Oct 24, 2016 21:13
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Entropic posted:That's a weird rear end looking mana cost. It's ten grand, baby!
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Oct 24, 2016 21:16
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Fighter, cleric, wizard, rogue, god that's the most blatant D&D party. I meant I don't see how the legends in this set are like legends, my bad
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Oct 24, 2016 21:23
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Death Bot posted:Maro has talked about this before and definitely noted that because there's no guild/shard/clan identity, and because a 4 color card must, by necessity, be incredibly hard to cast, they always end up being really weird designs because they have to hit 4 points while also having a reason not to be the fifth color. I like Ink-Treader Nephilim because instead of trying to be four colors it's trying to be two guilds: using Izzet means (copying spells) to achieve Selesnya ends (beefing up your army of little creatures). That seems a lot more elegant than that spoiled GWUB that gets a bunch of keywords that kinda sorta map to its colors (it's already black but apparently being green is what gives it deathtouch).
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Oct 24, 2016 21:53
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 Blurry, but plausible.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:06
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Ok, fine. Point still applies. That simple line of text that's instantly grokkable makes the rules poo poo themselves. reminder that the reason they don't just make grokkable versions of cards is because MTGO works by parsing the text on cards and attempts to come up with the equivalent computer version from that
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Oct 24, 2016 22:17
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I don't believe that.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:20
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dragon enthusiast posted:reminder that the reason they don't just make grokkable versions of cards is because MTGO works by parsing the text on cards and attempts to come up with the equivalent computer version from that Just because you put "reminder that" before something doesn't make it true.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:20
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dragon enthusiast posted:reminder that the reason they don't just make grokkable versions of cards is because MTGO works by parsing the text on cards and attempts to come up with the equivalent computer version from that MTGO doesn't parse the text on cards at all. Each card's effect is hard-coded into MTGO separately, which is why different printings of the same card will do drastically different things sometimes.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:21
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Yeah, the reason easily grokkable things don't always work is because the rules have to be complete and consistently applied, because if you have to make a ton of one-time-only exceptions it all becomes a mess. The price is the closing of some very narrow windows of design like the fliers/power thing.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:25
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Rip_Van_Winkle posted:
The not-blue one says: Name Vigilance, haste As ~ enters the battlefield, choose a player. Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, it deals that much damage to the chosen player. 3/4, I think. The not-green one says: When ~ enters the battlefield, create (?) (?) blue Thopter artifact creature tokens with flying. 1, Sacrifice an artifact: Choose 1: - I don't know - Target creature gains (?) until end of turn - You gain (?) life. The not-white one is a 5/4 with Trample and is a Djinn Wizard. It does something when it deals combat damage to a player, but I can't make out what it is.It has a shitload of reminder text and has the name Maelstrom in his name so maybe gives all your spells Cascade until end of turn or something? The not-black one says: "at the beginning of your end step, draw a card. Each player may put a land card from his or her hand onto the battlefield." There's more but I can't make it out. Lets Pickle fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Oct 24, 2016 22:26
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Lets Pickle posted:The not-blue one says: gently caress that guy in particular.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:29
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Lets Pickle posted:The not-blue one says: [name] the Unyielding looks like. I could also spend time squinting at most of these and try to context them out. Non-White: Trample, Combat Damage to Player Trigger Non-Green: ETB Trigger dealing with Artifact Creatures, Sac an Artifcat Ability Non Black: EOT Trigger (Your Turn) Evil Badman fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Oct 24, 2016 22:33
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Lets Pickle posted:The not-blue one says: Just to make sure I've got things straight, if you've got a damage doubler, this would double twice, right? Once when you hit the guy, and then again when it deals damage to the chosen player?
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Oct 24, 2016 22:34
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Oct 24, 2016 22:34
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The Lord of Hats posted:Just to make sure I've got things straight, if you've got a damage doubler, this would double twice, right? Once when you hit the guy, and then again when it deals damage to the chosen player? Correct, a 1/1 would end up dealing a total of 6 damage.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:39
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^: Wait, 6? Wouldn't it be 1 (doubled) + 1 (doubled) for the trigger? I think he meant with Furnace or Twin Gods out.The Lord of Hats posted:Just to make sure I've got things straight, if you've got a damage doubler, this would double twice, right? Once when you hit the guy, and then again when it deals damage to the chosen player? Add double strike and well... 
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Oct 24, 2016 22:40
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Evil Badman posted:^: Wait, 6? Wouldn't it be 1 (doubled) + 1 (doubled) for the trigger? I think he meant with Furnace or Twin Gods out. It would be 1 doubled to 2, then the ability would see you dealt 2 damage and deal 2 doubled to 4. For a total of 6.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:45
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Ask Me For Warez posted:It would be 1 doubled to 2, then the ability would see you dealt 2 damage and deal 2 doubled to 4. For a total of 6. Oh right. Oh god.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:47
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Lottery of Babylon posted:MTGO doesn't parse the text on cards at all. Each card's effect is hard-coded into MTGO separately, which is why different printings of the same card will do drastically different things sometimes. That's somehow worse than what I proposed on the basis of technical merit Seriously though did I completely misremember a job opening for the MTGO team that wanted people who could build natural language parsers
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Oct 24, 2016 22:54
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Evil Badman posted:Oh right. Oh god. Seems fine. I'm a loving idiot who doesn't know the rules to Magic the Gathering
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Oct 24, 2016 22:55
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dragon enthusiast posted:That's somehow worse than what I proposed on the basis of technical merit Yes they had that. Because they don't do any of it atm, and knowing their practices not for like a decade yet.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:56
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Rip_Van_Winkle posted:
The not-black one are the Guardians of Meletis.
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Oct 24, 2016 23:35
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A big flaming stink posted:The not-black one are the Guardians of Meletis. Is this the part where I quote MTGS like LoB w/r/t those two being gay?
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Oct 24, 2016 23:43
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A big flaming stink posted:The not-black one are the Guardians of Meletis. The not-green one looks to be from Esper, because its a legendary artifact creature and is colored. The Guardians of Meletis are great, though.
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Oct 24, 2016 23:44
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Is this the part where I quote MTGS like LoB w/r/t those two being gay? I don't know, I just thought it was cool we got explicitly queer characters in this game, even if they're outside of the main plotline.
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Oct 24, 2016 23:44
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A big flaming stink posted:The not-black one are the Guardians of Meletis. That would be pretty sweet.
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Oct 24, 2016 23:45
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Count Bleck posted:The not-green one looks to be from Esper, because its a legendary artifact creature and is colored. pretty sure it has ETB put ? thopters into play and 1, sac an artifact choose one: "three things I can't read."
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Oct 24, 2016 23:47
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A big flaming stink posted:The not-black one are the Guardians of Meletis. Guardians of Metis sounds pretty lovely
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Oct 25, 2016 00:15
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Sigma-X posted:Guardians of Metis sounds pretty lovely Ummm isn't this the name of like a 0/5 wall from 2-3 blocks ago? edit: yeah it is http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=373605
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Oct 25, 2016 00:16
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Not White: Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder Not Blue: Saskia the Unyielding Not Black: Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis Not Green: Breya, Etherium Shaper
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Oct 25, 2016 00:17
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80s James Hetfield posted:Ummm isn't this the name of like a 0/5 wall from 2-3 blocks ago? Yes, the wall is a current-day statue of the two in Theros. That's why it's a wall. The legendary is the actual two dudes back when they were alive.
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Oct 25, 2016 00:18
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A big flaming stink posted:The not-black one are the Guardians of Meletis.
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Oct 25, 2016 00:26
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 quote:Creature - Ox Elemental Elyv fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Oct 25, 2016 00:28
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80s James Hetfield posted:Ummm isn't this the name of like a 0/5 wall from 2-3 blocks ago? No, that's guardians of meletis, which is completely different from my apparently overly obscure pun. Where my elemental bois at? Holla atchu elemental bois
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Oct 25, 2016 00:31
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Boi is a great creature type.
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Oct 25, 2016 00:32
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This is Metis you noobs: http://forums.somethingawful.com/dictionary.php?act=3&topicid=559
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Oct 25, 2016 00:34
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Now we just need a card with the creature type Sk8er.
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