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https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_rkid8nNFMV1xoyw8p.mp4quote:So here's your--here's our hotel room. The door to the bathroom is clear, so you enter the bathroom, and everything's normal, you look at yourself, and everyone who's in the hallway can see you. And over here's the shower, it's relatively private. You enter the shower, and like wash yourself-- *breaks down laughing* Well okay okay, you decide to wash your hands, or sit down on the toilet and-- *another fit of laughter* Fine, fine, it's actually all okay because you grab this and you...uh, and you're like 'I want some privacy'", and you close--you close the curtain, and then you close this curtain-- *laughs* And you close that curtain too, and now you want to sit on the toilet and you're like 'Okay everything's closed, you can't see in", and so you sit down on the toilet-- *intense laughter* razorscooter fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Oct 22, 2023 |
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That tile makes me so upset. It's aligned correctly in one direction but not the other and looks like poo poo. I mean it looks like an optical illusion. I'm sure it was intentional but it sucks.
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# ? Oct 22, 2023 16:03 |
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# ? Oct 22, 2023 20:36 |
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Just a pretty standard honeymoon suite at a love hotel, I don't see what the problem is.
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# ? Oct 23, 2023 01:43 |
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I worked somewhere where they pulled out the Dyson hand dryers because they were too loud inside a bathroom. The industrial health folks said that people really ought to have hearing protection at those decibel levels and that isn't practical in a bathroom
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# ? Oct 24, 2023 15:51 |
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Rebar is that soft that it is easier to bend it out of the way, rather than make two cuts in each piece? Or was someone delusional enough to think they were going to bend the rebar back and cover up the work location to make the structural column look whole?
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# ? Oct 24, 2023 17:44 |
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Orvin posted:Rebar is that soft that it is easier to bend it out of the way, rather than make two cuts in each piece? I thought maybe they'd run the already external pipe around the structural column or is that ?
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# ? Oct 24, 2023 18:12 |
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From what I recall, rebar is pretty soft. It's not trivial to bend with your bare hands, but it's certainly possible; alternately, a few whacks with a hammer should get it out of your way. Its purpose in concrete is to provide strength in tension, and to help distribute load across the entire pour, to reduce the chance of cracks appearing.
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Rebar is typically 60ksi mild carbon steel and older stuff is ~40ksi, so very similar mechanical properties as A36 and Grade 50 structural steel for plates or wide flanges and the same Poisson's ratio (all carbon steel is ~29,000ksi). Remember that bendiness is about stiffness and all carbon steel is roughly the same stiffness until yield. Ironically the yield points for structural steels are a bit lower than equivalent rebar steel. What makes it "soft" is those are likely #3 or #4 bars. The section isn't very stiff and has a small area so you can bend it slipping a pipe over the end like a lever (or hammering it away). That same steel in a #8 or #10 bar for a commercial/industrial application will not bend without a significant mechanical advantage like a heavy duty pipe bender, heat treatment, or getting hooked bars from the mill. Blindeye fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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While structural columns should be installed with a generous safety factor, that safety factor isn't generally gonna be multiple whole integers. Removing over a square foot of area from the column may very well have reduced the column below acceptable strength. Not to mention that exposing rebar intended to be buried inside of concrete without additional coating marks the member for a slow death. Rebar and concrete are intended to have each other's backs: the rebar reinforces the concrete to bear moments that concrete is bad at handling alone, while the concrete protects the rebar from the elements. Penetrations and deep cracks that aren't sealed proper can lead to slow, creeping failures as moisture can suddenly make its way to the rebar, rust it, expand it, and push apart the member from the inside. Worse, the location of that member next to a seam between two walls potentially suggests that it is intended not only to take downward load, but buttress some outward thrust as well. Cutting it here might be even worse because it's compromising more than one design goal that the column was supposed to fulfill because that rebar is no longer helping to tie the wall in. you have to see the plans to know for sure, but you also can't just assume that concrete members are intended only to help handle downward forces. Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/RomeInTheEast/status/1716525127582536146?s=20 https://twitter.com/KuHu2011/status/1716544935648801197?s=20
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Potato Salad posted:While structural columns should be installed with a generous safety factor, that safety factor isn't generally gonna be multiple whole integers. Removing over a square foot of area from the column may very well have reduced the column below acceptable strength. Not disagreeing one bit. Especially in columns, any exposed rebar is column death so that column is hosed (though that tiny column embedded in a wall was likely old and doesn't meet modern code for hoop steel/detailing). I don't see the seam between two walls but my guess is that the column is compromised but the shear wall is bearing additional axial load (likely in excess of its rated capacity). Concrete tends to have more generous safety factors than steel frames but this being a shear wall building instead of a moment frame building saved them from catastrophic failure. That being said it's hosed that this ever happened. Dick Trauma posted:https://twitter.com/RomeInTheEast/status/1716525127582536146?s=20 This isn't crappy construction but an intentional choice. Often the churches were made from repurposed ancient pagan temples or the debris from collapsed pagan temples in part to demonstrate the supremacy of the Christian church but also to show that the defilement of the temples do not incur reprisals from the old gods, undermining their continued influence. Having seen examples of these in person, they're pretty buildings.
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Blindeye posted:This isn't crappy construction but an intentional choice. Often the houses were made from repurposed ancient leftovers or the debris from collapsed projects in part to demonstrate the supremacy of the handyman but also to show that the defilement of the trades do not incur reprisals from code enforcement, undermining their wages.
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Blindeye posted:I don't see the seam between two walls It looks like the wall past the column is set back compared to the other, maybe that’s what they meant
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Blindeye posted:This isn't crappy construction but an intentional choice. Those tweets are spolia to help prop up the thread.
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Blindeye posted:I don't see the seam between two walls but my guess is that the column is compromised but the shear wall is bearing additional axial load (likely in excess of its rated capacity). My eyes might be misinterpreting this, but you can see from the path the pipe takes that the member at the right side of the photo is set back from the wall at the left, so it looks like some kind of coupled shear wall with an L or C at the left and just more wall at the right edit: which, of course, would only go on to reinforce your point Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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Dick Trauma posted:Those tweets are spolia to help prop up the thread. Are you saying you're repurposing perfectly good tweets in lieu of developing your own posts in a blend of purposeful curation and haphazard recycling to sustain this forum?
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Potato Salad posted:My eyes might be misinterpreting this, but you can see from the path the pipe takes that the member at the right side of the photo is set back from the wall at the left, so it looks like some kind of coupled shear wall with an L or C at the left and just more wall at the right I see that step and just thought it was part of the smashed up column rather than the shear wall. Either way, yikes. Edit: lol reinforcing
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Spolia alert! Whole lot of buildings in Cuzco post-conquest are built right on the top of the Incan foundations. They're trapezoidal profile foundations built with giant blocks of stone expertly shaped so they fit together without mortar. The joints are so tight you can't slide a piece of paper between them. Using mortar in stonework was the crappy construction technique for unimportant buildings in the ancient Andean way. As it turns out, giant blocks of fitted stone is a really great construction technique when you live in earthquake country.
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Crappy construction, is cool?"Thucydides posted:
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# ? Oct 24, 2023 19:14 |
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canyoneer posted:Spolia alert! Cyclopean architecture is amazing and it's criminal that we'll never see the glory of the temple complex thanks to the conquistadors. There's also a medieval town in Portugal called Óbidos where the aqueduct that went into the town eventually blends into the houses built inside the city walls in a similar way.
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Blindeye posted:
Not arguing in the least bit. BUUUUTTTTTT So many times crappy construction in an intentional choice.
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Blindeye posted:Cyclopean architecture is amazing and it's criminal that we'll never see the glory of the temple complex thanks to the conquistadors. Well, learned something today, I just thought "Cyclopean architecture" meant "big buildings."
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Blindeye posted:This isn't crappy construction but an intentional choice. Often the churches were made from repurposed ancient pagan temples or the debris from collapsed pagan temples in part to demonstrate the supremacy of the Christian church but also to show that the defilement of the temples do not incur reprisals from the old gods, undermining their continued influence. Epitope beat it to me, but yeah, re-using existing stones wasn't exactly uncommon. Why would you go to all the labor of quarrying new stone when there was a perfectly good building you can loot instead? Hell, you see this kind of thing today with old buildings being looted of their bricks. quote:In May 2008, 11 buildings on the North Side burned in a three-night period. “It was all one guy setting the fires, working with the brick thieves,” says Allen. Roughly a year ago, there was a spate of four more fires. “They may burn the building down, to get the fire department to loosen up the wall with high-pressure hoses, but they’re burning a building that’s already been abandoned, sometimes for 15 or 20 years,” he says.
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Here are some nice stone walls. One of my favorite walking spots is Yamane Ground, a giant stone stadium built in my town in the 1960s. https://hardcandy.exblog.jp/27939388/ You can see it being used naturally in this festival video (main competition around 31:00) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgBfi8iWroI This summer we visited Marugame Castle. The stone foundation collapsed due to a cycle of heavy rain, and they are carefully replacing each stone into its original location, with seismic reinforcements. Introduction https://www.city.marugame.lg.jp/site/castle/ Repair work https://www.city.marugame.lg.jp/site/castle/2924.html peanut fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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Stop. How does any sane person just cut through all that?
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The Dave posted:Stop. How does any sane person just cut through all that? "Hey there's a stud right there. It's fine."
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The Dave posted:Stop. How does any sane person just cut through all that? It's HVAC man, they're a different breed.
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ha ha sawzall goes brrrrrrrr.....
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peanut posted:Here are some nice stone walls. The Met Cloisters is the best Uas example I can think of. A medieval art museum shaped like a castle, made of castles. https://www.metmuseum.org/visit/plan-your-visit/met-cloisters
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This might actually be literal crappy construction; one of the soil pipes vents directly into the loft (which made being up there when a toilet was flushed a sub optimal experience), but the loft itself is fully vented to the outside through the soffits so I can't decide if this is bad or not. The bathroom below it is being replaced which has uncovered some fun things like the aqua board by the shower drain being mouldy because the relaid tiles hosed the drainage up and the toilet being plumbed in so badly that it was trying to flow uphill and had also been fitted to plasterboard which had crushed so it was now on an angle. To quote the guy doing it "it would have been easier to do a proper job".
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:This might actually be literal crappy construction; one of the soil pipes vents directly into the loft (which made being up there when a toilet was flushed a sub optimal experience), but the loft itself is fully vented to the outside through the soffits so I can't decide if this is bad or not. “When I was young, I observed that nine out of ten things I did were failures. So I did ten times more work.” – George Bernard Shaw
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Harry_Potato posted:“When I was young, I observed that nine out of ten things I did were failures. So I did ten times more work.” – George Bernard Shaw I think we've all worked with that guy at some point.
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For the record, the sewer vent should go all the way through the roof. That’s not just smell, but methane being vented to your attic.
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# ? Oct 29, 2023 21:44 |
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:This might actually be literal crappy construction; one of the soil pipes vents directly into the loft (which made being up there when a toilet was flushed a sub optimal experience), but the loft itself is fully vented to the outside through the soffits so I can't decide if this is bad or not. Normally in this sort of arrangement you'd have a one-way valve capping off the pipe, so it can draw in air and prevent itself from developing underpressure, rather than just having it open into the attic. I'd look into getting one of those, they're little mushroom fellas. We call them vacuum vents here, but I'm not sure if American plumbers might call them something else.
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Harry_Potato posted:“When I was young, I observed that nine out of ten things I did were failures. So I did ten times more work.” – George Bernard Shaw Ja, we've all dwelt in that cave PurpleXVI posted:
Studor vents. Still supposed to have a main vent, though. PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Oct 30, 2023 |
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PurpleXVI posted:Normally in this sort of arrangement you'd have a one-way valve capping off the pipe, so it can draw in air and prevent itself from developing underpressure, rather than just having it open into the attic. I'd look into getting one of those, they're little mushroom fellas. The smaller ones are called "island vents" and used to vent a sink in the middle of the room. I've never seen a 4" vent for a main stack like that. https://www.menards.com/main/plumbi...1.htm?exp=false
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Darchangel posted:For the record, the sewer vent should go all the way through the roof. That’s not just smell, but methane being vented to your attic. Also rats can shimmy up the vent pipes and nest in your attic.
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