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Which made me think the other night: if Leia knew they were being tracked, why go straight to Yavin?
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KaosFactor posted:Which made me think the other night: if Leia knew they were being tracked, why go straight to Yavin? You haven't picked up by now that she's an idiot?
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Feb 11, 2011 00:25
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KaosFactor posted:Which made me think the other night: if Leia knew they were being tracked, why go straight to Yavin? Because on top of the torture and interrogation, she'd just watched her home planet being blasted into an asteroid field. She probably wasn't thinking everything through. I sometimes suspect that Tarkin took that into account when he blew up Alderaan.
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Feb 11, 2011 00:32
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KaosFactor posted:Which made me think the other night: if Leia knew they were being tracked, why go straight to Yavin? If Tarkin was willing to blow up a peaceful planet just to make a point, I don't think he'd have any problem destroying wherever the Falcon landed on the off chance it actually was the rebel base. At least the rebels would have a chance to fight back.
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Feb 11, 2011 00:39
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Most movies have plot holes. Citizen Kane has a huge plothole. However, good movies like Kane and star wars do a good job at hiding them.
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Feb 11, 2011 00:43
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Astribulus posted:If Tarkin was willing to blow up a peaceful planet ... Since TFU is canon, Aldaraan was a hotbed of insurrection and the ruling Organa family needed a permanent solution. >.< I didn't just type that.
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Feb 11, 2011 00:52
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TheBigBad posted:Since TFU is canon, Aldaraan was a hotbed of insurrection and the ruling Organa family needed a permanent solution. >.< I didn't just type that. So while looking at Wookieepedia, specifically the Canon section, I found this: Wookieepedia posted:TOTAL FILM: "Are you happy for new Star Wars tales to be told after you're gone?" 
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Feb 11, 2011 01:11
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Mister Roboto posted:I really wonder why they didn't do an "Infinities" story for the prequels. They have way more what-if? material to work with.
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Feb 11, 2011 01:13
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Maybe they needed the Death Star to come to them. Saves time and fuel.
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Feb 11, 2011 01:19
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Gammatron 64 posted:Most movies have plot holes. Citizen Kane has a huge plothole. However, good movies like Kane and star wars do a good job at hiding them. "That's not really a plothole it's just...stupid"
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Feb 11, 2011 01:29
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Mooktastical posted:So while looking at Wookieepedia, specifically the Canon section, I found this: The one thing Lucas has right!
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Feb 11, 2011 01:29
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Mooktastical posted:So while looking at Wookieepedia, specifically the Canon section, I found this: Missed this but uh, no offense but why is this bad? I know we all want to see the prequels remade but do we really want sequels?
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Feb 11, 2011 01:36
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I'd love to see the Thrawn Trilogy, but there is NO WAY they'd be done right so it's better.
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Feb 11, 2011 01:38
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They should do an animated/cgi adaptation of the Thrawn trilogy, except where previously nixed/forbidden by Lucas do what Zahn originally wanted to do--e.g. the insane Obi-Wan clone instead of Joruus C'Baoth. Fix up small niggling details like the timeframe of the rise of the Empire, get the clone insanity and Mount Tantiss thing slightly closer to what was in the prequels (not that hard of a fix, honestly, since Zahn himself wrote a short dealing with it). It'll never happen.
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Feb 11, 2011 01:52
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Or you can read the books again. Seriously nothing good would come of an adaptation.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Missed this but uh, no offense but why is this bad? I know we all want to see the prequels remade but do we really want sequels? No new movies means no remade prequels. When Lucas kicks the bucket, whatever happens to Star Wars, it won't be for the better.
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Feb 11, 2011 02:44
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TheBigBad posted:They don't win that fight, they escape. Plus they were being herded back to the Falcon to reveal the location of the Rebel Base. I'm sure that makes the stormtroopers who got shot and fell into a bottomless pit despite having the high ground would be consoled by that.
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that awful man posted:I'm sure that makes the stormtroopers who got shot and fell into a bottomless pit despite having the high ground would be consoled by that. No body gives a crap how dead clones and droids feel. Edit: Because they don't pull your arms off when they lose.
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Feb 11, 2011 03:10
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Nobody really thinks they won't milk the franchise the minute George dies, right?
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arioch posted:I don't think Chewie's ever been scratched behind the ears in the OT. Doesn't Luke give him a scratch in Empire? Maybe not behind the ears, but it was a very much like something you would do to your pet.
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DFu4ever posted:Doesn't Luke give him a scratch in Empire? Maybe not behind the ears, but it was a very much like something you would do to your pet. Do Wookiees even HAVE ears?
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Feb 11, 2011 04:05
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Allegiance is done. Not bad, all things considered. Sometimes I wish I didn't read so fast. Now I'm out of new Star Wars books again.
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DFu4ever posted:Doesn't Luke give him a scratch in Empire? Maybe not behind the ears, but it was a very much like something you would do to your pet. I think this is justified as mutual grooming would make sense as a Wookie custom, indeed Chewie even runs his paw through a newly de-frosted Han's hair in RotJ.
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^^ Yeah, I can buy that. KnightLight posted:Allegiance is done. Wait, you read that in between this and your previous post? 
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Mooktastical posted:So while looking at Wookieepedia, specifically the Canon section, I found this: The last figure I heard about the value of George Lucas's financial empire is 1 billion dollars or something like that. He also has children, who will grow up to be adults. Someone in the family will eventually get greedy. A thousand men in suits will salivate at the idea of ANOTHER billion being made, whisper in those adult's ears, and lawyers will neatly remove anything the then-deceased Lucas might have put in the way of making more movies. Trust me there will be more movies after Lucas is gone.
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Mooktastical posted:No new movies means no remade prequels. When Lucas kicks the bucket, whatever happens to Star Wars, it won't be for the better. I hate to quote plinkett because it's been done to death but "The sad truth about the prequels is they'll be around forever. They will never go away. They can never be undone." Even if someone did do it, the originals are always gonna be in the back of our mind. Why create something to remind us of them?
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So basically Obi-Wan's line was a buch of crap then? Especially considering his experience with Maul, but also other stuff.Powered Descent posted:Do Wookiees even HAVE ears? Let's consult the wiki! http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ear 
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So, what's the secondary use for ears? ....Or is this covered in some sort of fanfic that I really don't want to know?
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Wookiepedia posted:A secondary use for ears was Wookie sex holes. They especially liked doing it with Yoda ears cause they were so big.
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Admiral Goodenough posted:^^ Yeah, I can buy that. Yes, yes I did. I read Allegiance in between when the mail arrived and midnight. This is why I spend way too much on books.  If it weren't for public libraries I'd be utterly broke.
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deadguy posted:Wookie Heh, I knew that was fake because of that word.  Plus, everyone knew Chewie wasn't packing. Or maybe he was and that's why nobody stood in front of him.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I hate to quote plinkett because it's been done to death but "The sad truth about the prequels is they'll be around forever. They will never go away. They can never be undone." I disagree.They're not some traumatic event that scarred me for life, they're just a few lovely movies that could/should have had more effort put into them, is all. If the prequels were competently re-done, I'd be able to forget about George Lucas' 3 mistakes. I'd always remember how lovely a filmmaker and human being he is, but then again, nothing could change that.
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If they remake the prequels, I doubt they'll be made better. Yeah, you can make them way, way better, but that requires talented people. I'd be all over prequels written by Lawrence Kasdan, produced by Gary Kurtz and directed by the ghost of Irwin Kirshner, but that isn't ever happening. You guys expect Rick McCallum and the Lucas kiddies to make a good movie? That's a laugh. Hollywood often doesn't care about the quality of their product, especially when it has a name on it that sells like Star Wars. Fantastic reboots like Batman and Star Trek seem to be a relative rarity and happen by accident. When George finally croaks, he's leaving the franchise in the hands of even less competent people. Imagine the EU in movie form. Talented people don't write Star Wars novels and comics. Yeah, there's the Thrawn trilogy and the X-Wing novels, but those were from over a decade ago.
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Gammatron 64 posted:If they remake the prequels, I doubt they'll be made better. Yeah, you can make them way, way better, but that requires talented people. I'd be all over prequels written by Lawrence Kasdan, produced by Gary Kurtz and directed by the ghost of Irwin Kirshner, but that isn't ever happening. You guys expect Rick McCallum and the Lucas kiddies to make a good movie? That's a laugh. Here's what I think is most likely to happen after he dies. We'll see a huge uptick in the amount of poo poo that's sold under the Star Wars license. Games, TV shows, action figures, books, and anything else they can use to make a buck. Quantity will be emphasized over quality. After the buzz dies down, and the diminishing returns of constant brand withdrawals begin to take effect, the Star Wars brand will be in the shitter. Once that happens, when there's nothing left to lose, someone will do for Star Wars what JJ Abrams did for Star Trek and Christopher Nolan did for Batman.
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Star Wars has been in the shitter and has emphasized quantity over quality for well over a decade. Star Wars is a huge behemoth that flat out refuses to die because its Stockholm syndrome fans still eat it up, no matter how lovely it is. After Gene Roddenberry died, Star Trek took two whole horrible shows (and one criminally underrated one), a whole plethora of bad movies, almost unanimously awful tie-ins and the public opinion that it was only for super-nerds to finally kill it. Then there was no Star Trek anything for years until the reboot. So you probably won't see any good Star Wars until a few decades after George's death and everybody has forgotten about it.
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Can they even reverse his wishes legally after his death? I know covenants can be passed on from owner to owner on land, but intellectual property?
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TheBigBad posted:Can they even reverse his wishes legally after his death? I know covenants can be passed on from owner to owner on land, but intellectual property? Intellectual property laws are weird, especially after Disney messed with the law so they could hold on to Mickey Mouse instead of having him pass into public domain. It's not that you ever even see Mickey Mouse beyond the theme parks. Though of course, whenever they try making new Mickey Mouse or Buggs Bunny cartoons, they wind up terrible.
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So I don't know how many of you are watching the Clone Wars, but suffice to say all the Force Cthulhu poo poo has definitely been upstaged (complete with the voice talents of Starkiller) by the off-the-wall mystic poo poo they're running with that clearly came from Lucas himself. (So tired of these Star
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The Mickey and Bugs Bunny analogy is really apt analogy. They, like SW, started as main stream entertainment that kids could enjoy. At some point, the controlling interest decided that kids wouldn't be the incidental market, they would be the specific target. It requires a lot less to keep a 5 yr old entertained than a 25 yr old. Also, no, Lucas cannot control from beyond the grave. Covenants on real property are a different matter than dead hand control through wills.
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Don't worry about it guys. This is the new canon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55e-uHQna0
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