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univbee posted:"Mosque Knifeman" sounds like a really phoned-in supervillain name. Didn't Jesus teach something about not straight up stealing poo poo? 
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Stolen from the Flint thread, this is the cake Rick Snyder had made for his wife's birthday.
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BrandorKP posted:Cops hate knives. If you don't see the difference between cops confronting some random unknown person in the street rushing at them with a knife vs dealing with a mentally ill person they were supposedly familiar with in his home than I'm not sure what else to tell you. 
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Crowsbeak posted:Dnd.jpeg Hahaha wait, he's wearing a loving PUNISHER hat in one of his promotional book photos and no one saw it coming that he was a delusional murderous psychopath? 
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Aesop Poprock posted:If you don't see the difference between cops confronting some random unknown person in the street rushing at them with a knife vs dealing with a mentally ill person they were supposedly familiar with in his home than I'm not sure what else to tell you. There is absolutely a difference. But people do what they practice. In stressful situations people think and do what they were trained to think and do. And that is, by the way, usually the criteria by which cops are examined after these things happen. Did the officer follow the procedures taught to him or her during their training? If the answer is yes, generally they don't face criminal consequences. And to the officers it was a random unknown person: "Other than that we had no indication of who she was or what her mental and cognitive abilities were at that time," Flores said. (CNN, http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/06/us/transgender-man-with-aspergers-killed/) There are systemic changes that need to occur in police training all over the country regarding the use of deadly force. And I think more police departments need more in department social workers (some states have always have social workers with officers when the mentally ill are involved.) 
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Aesop Poprock posted:Hahaha wait, he's wearing a loving PUNISHER hat in one of his promotional book photos and no one saw it coming that he was a delusional murderous psychopath? Apparently that even was his (and the SEAL team's he was part of) unofficial insignia during their deployment, at least if the movie is anything to go by. The whole time I watched it, I could only think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU On that note: 
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I don't think either of those propaganda shots is being very truthful. 
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Today is the birthday of one of my all time favourite and definitely one of the greatest all time Americans ever I'm talking one William Tecumseh Sherman  WTS was born in Ohio in 1820 to a lawyer dad who not only died young but was apparently fond enough of a prominent Shawnee chief as to name one of his sons after him. Legend has it that Sherman didn't even get the name William until he was a teenager, making him a not only a great Union general and great American but a great Union general and American named after a native American. Sherman studied at West Point as was apparently good as hell at the technical poo poo but couldn't stand the pomp or niceties.  He went on to a fine little career in the military--except for not serving in Mexico like basically everyone else. Oh, and then he married his sister (foster sister) and became a bank manager. He then chilled for a while and then those traitorous bastards in South Carolina seceded, upon which Sherman wrote one of--I think--the preeminent predictions of the Civil War: quote:You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it... Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth—right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail. That level of prescience, in the light of the popular conceptions of a lot of folks at the time that the war would be short, is astounding. He basically predicts the course of the war and rightfully puts the blame for the bloodshed and fuckery of the war solely at the feet of the South, where it belongs. Sherman's Civil War accomplishments
* Made sure his men didn't rout at Shiloh * During the counter-attack at Shiloh, he had three horses shout out from under him * Successfully commanded a defense of a position where he was outnumbered 4 to 1 * Captured the poo poo out of Atlanta and then righteously had that traitor city burned * Instigated total war against the south with his March To The Sea(tm) to truly and rightfully bring the true horror of war to the South  Let it be known that Sherman, like most historical figures, is not without reproach. He was never an abolitionist and he did not use black soldiers in his armies. For whatever it's worth, he did issue the famous "Special Field Orders No. 15" which offered a ton of land to freed slaves. It's from that order the promise of "40 acres and a mule" is supposedly derived. Let it also be known that many terrible campaigns were carried out against native Americans during his time as the head of the army. Sherman died in 1891 after a postwar career that included him serving as the General Commander of the Army and developing an interest in New York theater as well as Shakespeare. There are prominent Sherman memorials not only in Washington DC but also in Central Park in NYC. I wanted to do a Sherman effort-post because I deeply respect not only his part in the Civil War, but for his philosophy regarding it. I deeply detest not only war, but wars instigated for disgusting purposes--such as the Civil War. I can't abide Confederate apologia and I think it's absolutely awful and the height of hubris that so many southerners at the time thought their cause was just. I think the whole conflict was made even worse by the fact that the landed rich of the south thought it was a conflict of ideology and may have remained unaffected by its day-to-day goings on if not for Sherman. I think a man like Sherman was needed to show the CSA and the rich civilian south not only their folly for starting the war, but their folly in thinking that war was ever a course that could lead to their success. Yes, a Civil War was likely from the moment the ink was dry on the compromise constitution, but the thousands and thousands of young men didn't have to die if not for rich southern hubris and pride. To close, how about some choice Sherman quotes quote:If they want eternal war, well and good; we accept the issue, and will dispossess them and put our friends in their place. I know thousands and millions of good people who at simple notice would come to North Alabama and accept the elegant houses and plantations there. If the people of Huntsville think different, let them persist in war three years longer, and then they will not be consulted. Three years ago by a little reflection and patience they could have had a hundred years of peace and prosperity, but they preferred war; very well. Last year they could have saved their slaves, but now it is too late. quote:All the powers of earth cannot restore to them their slaves, any more than their dead grandfathers. Next year their lands will be taken, for in war we can take them, and rightfully, too, and in another year they may beg in vain for their lives. A people who will persevere in war beyond a certain limit ought to know the consequences. Many, many peoples with less pertinacity have been wiped out of national existence. quote:You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out. I know I had no hand in making this war, and I know I will make more sacrifices today than any of you to secure peace. But you cannot have peace and a division of our country. If the United States submits to a division now, it will not stop, but will go on until we reap the fate of Mexico, which is eternal war. The United States does and must assert its authority, wherever it once had power; for, if it relaxes one bit to pressure, it is gone, and I believe that such is the national feeling. and maybe my "favourite" quote:I confess, without shame, that I am sick and tired of fighting — its glory is all moonshine; even success the most brilliant is over dead and mangled bodies, with the anguish and lamentations of distant families, appealing to me for sons, husbands, and fathers … it is only those who have never heard a shot, never heard the shriek and groans of the wounded and lacerated … that cry aloud for more blood, more vengeance, more desolation.
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Waffles Inc. posted:Today is the birthday of one of my all time favourite and definitely one of the greatest all time Americans ever Yep, he certainly was a good dued.  
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spacetoaster posted:Yep, he certainly was a good dued. This just in: 19th Century White Man Has 19th Century Opinions on Race Another awesome Sherman 
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Scratch Monkey posted:Another awesome Sherman Here's an image of the last Sherman in service. Korean war. Bringing the pain to the communists. Which is what they all deserve.  
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Scratch Monkey posted:This just in: 19th Century White Man Has 19th Century Opinions on Race There are no "19th century opinions on race". There are just racists. The equality and abolitionist movements, nationally and globally, were many decades old by this point and one can find many examples of non-racist authors and thinkers at the time. Stop making excuses for racists you piece of garbage. 
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BrandorKP posted:Now you've made me spit my beer out. Personally, I'm armed with a spork. A 2-dollar spork with a long handle is tons better, probably lighter too. edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5LY4Mz15o Lyapunov Unstable fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Feb 8, 2016 |
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What, the letter sequence "igge" is somehow offensive on its own, but "n....rs" is acceptable, even though it is blindingly obvious which word is being used? Joseph Jenkins Roberts, first and seventh president of Liberia.
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Kopijeger posted:What, the letter sequence "igge" is somehow offensive on its own 
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Kopijeger posted:What, the letter sequence "igge" is somehow offensive on its own, but "n....rs" is acceptable, even though it is blindingly obvious which word is being used? 
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Oberleutnant posted:There are no "19th century opinions on race". There are just racists. The equality and abolitionist movements, nationally and globally, were many decades old by this point and one can find many examples of non-racist authors and thinkers at the time. So, the man who probably had more to do with the freeing of slaves in the United States than anyone besides Lincoln is in your eyes irredeemable because he wasn't reading the right literature? 
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Lyapunov Unstable posted:These things are terrible for backpacking if you eat out of a freeze-dried pack/pouch (which you have to do if you're backcountry in a place with bears, unless you want to generate food-smelling water and dishes that can't fit in the bear can near your site). You have to dig your hand down in the pouch full of scalding water to scoop any food. This thing is the epitome of poo poo designed for car campers to look cool with no added utility. Yes I was stuck in the rockies by myself with one of these for a week. I agree regarding it's back packing utility, but I don't use it for my backpacking. I use it for popping manhole covers and bilge wells. It excels at that. 
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 'Nada Merhi, 18, and her husband, Syrian army soldier Hassan Youssef, 27, pose for a series of wedding pictures amid heavily damaged buildings in Homs on February 5, 2016.' surreal.
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Literally Esoteric posted:A friend sent me this surreal gem: This is a real gem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-z2D9lo9-8
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Oberleutnant posted:There are no "19th century opinions on race". There are just racists. The equality and abolitionist movements, nationally and globally, were many decades old by this point and one can find many examples of non-racist authors and thinkers at the time. Yes how dare someone have typical opinions that most people held at the time, and how dare they not be perfect. 
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Better burn up your Che shirts everybody, because the desegregation movements were many decades old at the time he was alive and one can find many examples of non-racist authors and thinkers at the time. Apparently a actual battle standard that was used during the civil war, it's pretty great: 
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look i don't want to get into a slap fight about historical figures' perceptions and opinions about cultural issues aside from saying that I think it's important that we recognize their failings and remember not to whitewash who they were that said, i really do think that holding historic persons to a 21st century morality on social issues would leave us with a very small catalogue of people for whom it's "proper" to show respect for instance, as a sports, baseball and civil rights fan I greatly admire Jackie Robinson. I genuinely believe he helped shape the course of the entire century when it comes to civil rights  should we discount his important role and rightful "hero" status for the genuinely remarkable and good things he did because he most likely held views regarding homosexual and transgender people that were in keeping with those of a man raised in america in the early 20th century? it's ok to think that that disqualifies him in your own mind, of course, but I think it's more important to recognize that our historic heroes have flaws and that discussions about the "weighing" of those cons against the good they did are good ones. I think Sherman's actions during the war and his philosophy regarding war make him worthy of praise
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Everyone in this thread holds views that will be abhorrent to the enlightened true progressives of 2250. Kill yourselves.
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Where's the innocent white boy they're about to gangbang? Crowsbeak posted:Yes how dare someone have typical opinions that most people held at the time, and how dare they not be perfect. Right on, brother. 
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hey, I got a facebook picture, too! 
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I like this weird conservative narrative shown in the comments that Israel is some kind of gun mecca, and everybody is well armed. To get a license for a gun in Israel you need fill out some forms, including medical forms signed by your doctor, send those to the gun registration department, which then forwards your request to both the police and the health department to do background checks. If you've passed those, you get called to an interview. Pass that, and you have to get certified by a firing range instructor to make sure you know how use the weapon and are able to do so. Once you've been certified, you receive a license for A SINGLE HANDGUN. If you do not have a valid reason for owning a gun, you will not be permitted a license. Anything other than a handgun, like a rifle or an automatic weapon, can only be obtained if you live in a settlement, close to a border, or own a farm. Also, it helps if you're not Arabic. This license is only valid for 3 years, you have to pay for it, and if you fail to renew it at the end of this term, you lose the right to have a firearm for the subsequent 3 years. This is why less than 3% of Israeli residents legally own a gun. Any other country and they'd blame it for being a socialist hellhole. 
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Weird conservative narratives that have zero basis in reality seem to be pretty common.
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Waffles Inc. posted:Today is the birthday of one of my all time favourite and definitely one of the greatest all time Americans ever 
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