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I just faced a Takumi of similar level to mine, and now I think mine is +Def/-Res. I guess I'm glad I didn't get -Atk or -Spd, but the -Res makes him even more fragile and the +Def doesn't really make up for it. On the other hand, I have Takumi.
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Lutha Mahtin posted:On the other hand, I have Takumi. Far too many people losing sight of the big picture and fretting over the small things.
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Feb 16, 2017 15:42
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I have two. And a Hector. And a Nowi. All 5*. And that's only a half of my 5* characters. Heavy is the crown. 
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Feb 16, 2017 16:03
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Roger Explosion posted:If I had a dollar for the number of times I've pulled Hinata's punchable face, I'd have enough dosh to buy more orbs and pull more loving Hinatas. Worse is Hinata's voice, is his Heroes VA the same as Fates'? Because dear god it's screechy and grating.
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Feb 16, 2017 16:06
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My last 20 F2P orbs got me 5 star Raven. I don't get why he doesn't have a ranged counter attack since in FE7 you hand him a hand axe on promotion and he'd slaughter waves on the enemy phase. Way more so than Hector with a hand axe. 
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Feb 16, 2017 18:17
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Arena is confusing. So my score isn't cumulative. It's purely based of a win streak and difficulty. I have been grinding out intermediates for quests/fun/score, and had a really good run. I thought my score was cumulative, but instead I just hit a new high score of ~2600. Not bad, but so far I have not ranked. If I hit it hard and try for a win streak of 7 advanced battles, but fail and get a lower score, will my existing high score stand? How much of a bonus are the bonus troops worth? I could make a team of 4 of them, but the easiest way would involve two reds. Not sure if I have a bonus blue except for the 2* starter. E: holy poo poo Robin is scary!
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Feb 16, 2017 18:39
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waffles beyond waffles posted:Not bad, but so far I have not ranked. If I hit it hard and try for a win streak of 7 advanced battles, but fail and get a lower score, will my existing high score stand? Your old score stands. Your weekly score is your highest scoring streek with a streek length cap of 7 wins
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Feb 16, 2017 18:44
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The amount of points you receive is also based on the combined stat totals of your team. If you're using lovely low level 2* units the stat totals will be lower, and so will your scores. In order to score high, ideally you want to use level 40 units with high stat totals and you need to win all 7 advanced matches without losing a single unit. For most people this means using their best four-man 5* level 40 squad and aiming to go flawless (zero deaths) - my best runs I usually lose 2-3 total. You'll probably need 3500+ offense points in order to get in the top 100,000 ranks.
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Feb 16, 2017 18:51
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blizzardvizard posted:Worse is Hinata's voice, is his Heroes VA the same as Fates'? Because dear god it's screechy and grating. Yes to both. I think with the exception of Laslow, all the VAs from Awakening/Fates are the same.
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Feb 16, 2017 19:02
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acumen posted:The amount of points you receive is also based on the combined stat totals of your team. If you're using lovely low level 2* units the stat totals will be lower, and so will your scores. Having the arena featured characters, however, also increases your score, so you may end up with more points with 2* starter siblings than a nice team with non-featured 5*'s!
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Feb 16, 2017 19:13
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ApplesandOranges posted:Yes to both. I think with the exception of Laslow, all the VAs from Awakening/Fates are the same. Setsuna's VA was changed. Originally it was Julianne Alexander, now it's Conner Kelley. Luckily Kelley still has pretty hilarious delivery (she does Felicia too). EDIT: Wait a minute, google is now telling me these two completely different names are the same person. What the gently caress. Supercar Gautier fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 19:27
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OddObserver posted:Having the arena featured characters, however, also increases your score, so you may end up with more points with 2* starter siblings than a nice team with non-featured 5*'s! Assuming you're actually masochistic enough to level three 2*s to 40 they're still going to give poo poo performance. Just focus on getting to 7 advanced wins with less than five deaths. The top 100 teams don't even include any of the featured heroes.
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Feb 16, 2017 19:53
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acumen posted:Assuming you're actually masochistic enough to level three 2*s to 40 they're still going to give poo poo performance. Just focus on getting to 7 advanced wins with less than five deaths. On the other hand, all the non-Alphonse starters are actually good units if you stick with them. Sharena is probably good enough to get on your Nino or Tharja centered team.
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Feb 16, 2017 19:55
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Especially considering that the only other infantry Blue melee that's regularly in top tiers is Azura. If Kagero falls out of use, Sharena (and maybe Oboro) could see more viability.
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Feb 16, 2017 19:59
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acumen posted:The amount of points you receive is also based on the combined stat totals of your team. If you're using lovely low level 2* units the stat totals will be lower, and so will your scores. Ah ok. I think Takumi is 31. I won't worry about it much until I get them to 40. I need 5* blue and green too.
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Feb 16, 2017 19:59
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acumen posted:Assuming you're actually masochistic enough to level three 2*s to 40 they're still going to give poo poo performance. Just focus on getting to 7 advanced wins with less than five deaths. Is there a top 100 list somewhere?
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Feb 16, 2017 20:05
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akulanization posted:On the other hand, all the non-Alphonse starters are actually good units if you stick with them. Sharena is probably good enough to get on your Nino or Tharja centered team. Sharena's probably just good enough in a vacuum, her buffs and debuffs are very strong and backed by very solid stats.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:13
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I got enough orbs to pull in the new banner and... I got 1 red 4 grays. Well, it could be a takumi. It wasn't. Don't be like me. Take your single summon and eat the orb loss. 4* Roy, Wrys 3* Gaius, Saizo, Azama
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Feb 16, 2017 20:26
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Eh, you could also roll Kagero who would be a great unit to have. Unless you really wanted a focus character I don't think it's a problem.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:32
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All the starters are varying degrees of usable (my Sharena is 5* and an excellent unit). I'm just saying that using 2* starters just because they're featured units is bad advice. I don't think there's a top 100 list anywhere but due to the nature of stat matching it's going to be mostly knights (Hector, Effie, Sheena, etc) and/or +10 units since they have the highest stat totals. Top 1000 is full-on whale territory though - I'd say top 5000-10000 is a good goal and obtainable for f2pers.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:47
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I have a score of 4420 and that is barely keeping me below 5000.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:50
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Hunt11 posted:I have a score of 4420 and that is barely keeping me below 5000. If last week is anything to go by, you're gonna settle somewhere in the 5000-5100 range by the end of the arena.  (It's me, I was you last week)
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Feb 16, 2017 20:52
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Yeah, I dropped from 40k to 70k by the end of last week
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Feb 16, 2017 21:14
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a crisp refreshing Moxie posted:If last week is anything to go by, you're gonna settle somewhere in the 5000-5100 range by the end of the arena. I know. That basically happened to me as well. I still end up with 4100 feathers so it isn't all bad.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:16
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akulanization posted:On the other hand, all the non-Alphonse starters are actually good units if you stick with them. Sharena is probably good enough to get on your Nino or Tharja centered team. Alphonse is a good hard-hitting sword lord. Shareena is weak as spear infantry and mediocre support.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:16
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acumen posted:All the starters are varying degrees of usable (my Sharena is 5* and an excellent unit). I'm just saying that using 2* starters just because they're featured units is bad advice. Sounds right from my experience. Four decent 5* units at level 40 will yield about 650~ points per match, depending on matchmaking rng. A deathless run should end you at about 4550~ chain. This about the breakpoint for non-whales and reasonably obtainable until more people catch on and raise their team to be able to do this and much stronger units are released into the pool.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:18
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sassassin posted:Alphonse is a good hard-hitting sword lord. Shareena is weak as spear infantry and mediocre support. You keep on saying that but have nothing to back it up. Alphonse has to compete with a slot crowded full of units with better weapons and abilities. Shareena on the other hand has very little competition and acts as both a useful offensive and defensive buffing tool.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:19
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Kyoujin posted:I got enough orbs to pull in the new banner and... I got 1 red 4 grays. Well, it could be a takumi. I never summon greys because the pool of useful heroes is so small and I already have Kagero
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Feb 16, 2017 21:28
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Yeah. Can't complain too much since I previously did one last pull on heroes banner before it went away since my 5* rate was over 4%. Pulled Marth and Sheena, doubling my 5 * roster.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:48
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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:Sounds right from my experience. Four decent 5* units at level 40 ... Not everyone has 4 5* units....
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You can cheat that anyway. 4*-5* isn't really a Titanic increase in stats, it's just every stat matters if you are going top top ranks. If you just want a good score then use four high level units and hopefully one of them is one of the high stat hogs like the Lord MCs or an armor unit.
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I'm routinely clearing 3500 with 2 5*s and 2 4*s, one of which is a healer. That's not going to rank forever (especially once the featured characters rotate and I don't have two of them anymore) but it'll get the offense full reward forever.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:53
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Does the second featured even raise the score? Think you just need one.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:55
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Rascyc posted:Does the second featured even raise the score? Think you just need one. I'd heard that the first one doubles your score, and each one past that increases the value by less until it's triple at all four. I haven't confirmed this myself at all though.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:56
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ApplesandOranges posted:Yes to both. I think with the exception of Laslow, all the VAs from Awakening/Fates are the same.
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OddObserver posted:Not everyone has 4 5* units.... I've got two 5* and two 4*. One 4* is level 32 and I'm getting 620 max points per win. If you are running only one 5* it should still be possible to get 600 per fight as long as one your characters is an arena focus character. But 4200 points right now is somewhere around rank 15,000.
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Trihugger posted:I've got two 5* and two 4*. One 4* is level 32 and I'm getting 620 max points per win. If you are running only one 5* it should still be possible to get 600 per fight as long as one your characters is an arena focus character. But 4200 points right now is somewhere around rank 15,000. Which is sort of my point. My original best party doesn't have any focus characters, I just didn't draw any until recently. So it gets more like 300 per fight --- which I also get with my "trying to level up Robin I finally drew" party at half the level, and that party also has less trouble with running into Takumi..
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Is that 300 points with all four people at level 40 and fighting on Advanced? That doesn't sound right, promoted characters or not.
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OddObserver posted:Not everyone has 4 5* units.... If you notice, being 1st in rankings is a reward category of it's own. Based on the information from whales and their arena performance, it does appear that each ranking tier and rank spot can be tied for by as many people thatcan reach that score. So 1000-5000 will have a lot more than 4000 players. As long as you reach the needed score you will be included in the reward tier. The only thing that pushes your rank down is people reaching higher scores, people that tie have no impact on ranking. If this is correct and it does seem like it is based on the info available, you can theoretically reach the 1000-5000 tier with ANY 5* units, including 3* upgraded with feathers.
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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:you can theoretically reach the 1000-5000 tier with ANY 5* units, including 3* upgraded with feathers. There was some confusion about this in the discord too - 3/4* units promoted to 5* are exactly the same as copies that are drawn at 5*; 3* Robin feathered to 5* will be exactly the same as Robin pulled straight at 5*. Not including IVs of course.
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