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It's easier to list the reasons why Serini's plan isn't short sighted and non-feasible at this point.
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Captain Oblivious posted:It's easier to list the reasons why Serini's plan isn't short sighted and non-feasible at this point. She's a rogue -- hiding is her best skill.
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Jun 29, 2021 00:03
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:She's a rogue -- hiding is her best skill. Hiding from the truth.
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Jun 29, 2021 00:06
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Is anyone else reminded in some way of the first Miko fight? Highly prepared adventurer & companion vs. the Order.
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Jun 29, 2021 00:10
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Raenir Salazar posted:I had a thought but doesn't Roy have a potential work around for the memory wipe? His ghost dad who I assume it watching things, can fill him in that he got memory wiped, his team will believe him and they just go back but now on their guard. Serini's plan is fine for someone with her knowledge. Turns out there's a lot of poo poo she doesn't know about.
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Jun 29, 2021 00:23
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The exchange at the end of book six suggests that Serini knows about the end of the world stuff. I guess we'll get some exposition soon.
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Jun 29, 2021 00:29
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My immediate concern here is now that Serini has established she has a cheerful beholder daughter and other monster friends, when her plan inevitably goes tits up in one fashion or another it's all gonna come down on them because not a single member of the scribblers has gotten away with underestimating the threat of Xykon.
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Jun 29, 2021 00:30
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Caidin posted:My immediate concern here is now that Serini has established she has a cheerful beholder daughter and other monster friends, when her plan inevitably goes tits up in one fashion or another it's all gonna come down on them because not a single member of the scribblers has gotten away with underestimating the threat of Xykon. She's said she's just gonna let them do whatever they want to, hasn't she?
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Jun 29, 2021 00:37
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Caidin posted:My immediate concern here is now that Serini has established she has a cheerful beholder daughter and other monster friends, when her plan inevitably goes tits up in one fashion or another it's all gonna come down on them because not a single member of the scribblers has gotten away with underestimating the threat of Xykon. Given that Xykon nearly killed Serini, I imagine she has her dander up more than most people not on the protagonist team about him.
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Jun 29, 2021 00:42
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sebmojo posted:She's said she's just gonna let them do whatever they want to, hasn't she? Sure, but her take is that Xykon is just gonna blackmail the pantheons and play god king for a decades or maybe centuries before he gets overthrown, and maybe along the way the trolls and bugbears and gribbly underdogs of the world will get a better position at things for awhile. She's righting him off too cheaply, underestimating the carnage he's capable of like he'd just be like Elan's dad or something.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Given that Xykon nearly killed Serini, I imagine she has her dander up more than most people not on the protagonist team about him. She's well aware that she can't do anything to him and is willing to let bygones be bygones
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Clarste posted:Speaking of which, both Girard and Soon had set up organizations that could continue the work of protecting the Gate after they died, but does Serini have anything like or is she just planning to live forever? Given that Serini didn't even envision sticking around to defend the gate herself (she originally left it and went back to adventuring), I'm thinking she assumed her whole setup here was originally envisioned to be self-sustaining, without any need for active extra help. Probably not a terrible assumption, given that even with all the illusioners dead, Girard's last-ditch backup plan was still good enough to deflect one high-level party with a ton of magic at their disposal. Similarly, Dorukan's final defense for the gate was that magic rune that zapped anyone who wasn't good at heart. Even with Dorukan dead and the dungeon overrun with Xykon's lackeys, that final defense held to the point where Xykon needed to engage in an overcomplicated ruse to attempt to lure a party of heroic-ish adventurers into doing it for him. Raenir Salazar posted:I had a thought but doesn't Roy have a potential work around for the memory wipe? His ghost dad who I assume it watching things, can fill him in that he got memory wiped, his team will believe him and they just go back but now on their guard. It's unlikely that Roy's dad would bother, since last time he appeared, he seemed totally on board with the whole "let the gods destroy the world" thing. He doesn't give a crap about the world, he just needs Xykon dead - and it doesn't really matter who does the actual killing. And since he's got zero faith in Roy's ability to beat Xykon, he figures Xykon finding the gate and getting unmade in a divine panic will solve the "can't get into heaven" problem just as well and just as quickly. As for the gods, they have explicit rules against telling their followers where the Gates are, so telling them that they actually did find the Gate but were brainwashed afterward would probably fall under that umbrella. The party can't count on much direct divine guidance (like telling them things they don't already know) in this quest. Aside from that, as far as we know, they haven't magically corresponded with anyone else since they arrived at the Gate. If they come back thinking "turns out the coordinates Hinjo gave us were fake, the real Gate is somewhere else", who's going to doubt it? They've even got precedent for it, since they've already discovered that Girard gave the Sapphire Guard fake coordinates.
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Sorry for noting the obvious but it's a pretty keen trick using the monster to seal the door shut and 100% defeat all standard attempts at trap-finding and stonecunning.
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SuperKlaus posted:Sorry for noting the obvious but it's a pretty keen trick using the monster to seal the door shut and 100% defeat all standard attempts at trap-finding and stonecunning. Following up on this, if you look carefully at the 3rd-to-last and 2nd-to-last panels here you can see the stalagmites morphing: https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1237.html
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SKULL.GIF posted:Following up on this, if you look carefully at the 3rd-to-last and 2nd-to-last panels here you can see the stalagmites morphing: https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1237.html That's just the camera panning I think
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Jun 29, 2021 06:16
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Random Stranger posted:I can't believe you racists think all beholders look the same. They don't all know each other, either. Well generally Beholders all hate each other.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:That's just the camera panning I think Yeah they look like different cuts of the 4th panel.
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ultrafilter posted:The exchange at the end of book six suggests that Serini knows about the end of the world stuff. I guess we'll get some exposition soon. Not necessarily -- that could just be Serini knowing that the world ends if the last gate gets destroyed and being all "well, this plan is probably gonna fail, but may as well give it our best shot" to Sunny.
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seaborgium posted:You can always have some torches just in case, and use whichever works best in the moment. Having an emergency torch or two just in case seems like a smart thing to do for most adventurers. I, for one, never leave home without a 50' rope and a 10' pole. IRL.
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Jun 29, 2021 09:54
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What kind of monster is blocking the door?
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Jun 29, 2021 15:51
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A mimic the name „Mimi” is a subtle hint
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I would make so much money in D&D world if I could design and patent a 10' collapsible pole.
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Jun 29, 2021 15:55
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habeasdorkus posted:I would make so much money in D&D world if I could design and patent a 10' collapsible pole. The Rod of Lordly Might?
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habeasdorkus posted:I would make so much money in D&D world if I could design and patent a 10' collapsible pole. That's in the description of the 10ft pole item 
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Jun 29, 2021 16:12
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OP said "and patent," that's where you fence it off and start charging
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habeasdorkus posted:I would make so much money in D&D world if I could design and patent a 10' collapsible pole. Rent seekers! 
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Jun 29, 2021 16:40
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I'm playing a patent troll, obviously.
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habeasdorkus posted:I'm playing a patent troll, obviously.
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habeasdorkus posted:I'm playing a patent troll, obviously. The level adjustment is rough, play a patent orc instead.
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What was that forums CYOA where the hivemind picked a 10ft dungeoneering pole as equipment, and they got an extremely tall eastern european archaeologist? That happened right..?
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Jun 29, 2021 18:29
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Yes. I don't remember which one, but I think it was one of applewhite's.
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A Good Time posted:What was that forums CYOA where the hivemind picked a 10ft dungeoneering pole as equipment, and they got an extremely tall eastern european archaeologist? That happened right..? Zulily Zoetrope posted:Yes. I don't remember which one, but I think it was one of applewhite's. It was Sword of the Bastard Elf.
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Which the author made into a fully-fledged gamebook, and which can be purchased in hardcopy. (It's about the size of a telephone directory.)
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Holy moly that rules.
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Whybird posted:Which the author made into a fully-fledged gamebook, and which can be purchased in hardcopy. (It's about the size of a telephone directory.) Holy poo poo
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Whybird posted:Which the author made into a fully-fledged gamebook, and which can be purchased in hardcopy. (It's about the size of a telephone directory.) Not going to lie: I am severely tempted to get a copy for the absurdity of it.
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Jun 30, 2021 02:14
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Oh I'm a mutual with her on twitter! She rules!
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A thread for the hardcopy was traveling around the subforums for a bit. Did it miss here?
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Man, that was 6 years ago now?
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New one! Should you shoot the one active threat first, even if it's hard to hit - or should you take care of the non-dodgy, but not firing wizard before? (Answer - you don't waste your surprise round on shooting a guy with a sword, rather than the archer)
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