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remigious posted:So…the company I work for is owned by a private equity firm, and the CEO just suddenly departed. That’s a really bad sign, right? You’ll have a new CEO come in and install all of their own lackeys who will carve up the kingdom and make the place suck poo poo for a while. Everyone will be fearful and adopt crab bucket mentality while outwardly projecting confidence and loyalty. Lots of restructuring with layoffs to come. And that’s if they’re not going to break the company up into pieces for a fire sale. Just my experience from the past three times this has happened to me!
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Brainworms.jpg... (if you thought my answer was the single no, shame on you. My answer is the invisible one that didn't respond to an internal slack survey.  ) remigious posted:So…the company I work for is owned by a private equity firm, and the CEO just suddenly departed. That’s a really bad sign, right? He's the new Vice President of Beach Drinks, and his new office is on the Pleasure Yacht. You, on the other hand... (Yeah, it's typically a bad sign. It could just be a "getting absorbed into existing structure" thing, but those usually end up with big redundancy layoffs anyway. Get your resume updated and out there.)
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Jun 16, 2021 22:08
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gay_crimes posted:You’ll have a new CEO come in and install all of their own lackeys who will carve up the kingdom and make the place suck poo poo for a while. Everyone will be fearful and adopt crab bucket mentality while outwardly projecting confidence and loyalty. Lots of restructuring with layoffs to come. And that’s if they’re not going to break the company up into pieces for a fire sale. The company was already broken into pieces when the private equity firm sunk their claws in. I’m wondering if we’re approaching the fire sale part of this song and dance. Poop!
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Jun 16, 2021 22:16
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Sundae posted:Brainworms.jpg... (if you thought my answer was the single no, shame on you. My answer is the invisible one that didn't respond to an internal slack survey. manufacturedconsent.jpg jesus christ We had our department-wide "hybrid office" seminar today, which more or less laid out the company's policies for September once the offices open back up to the public. Included such gems as "new employees need to work full time in-office or they won't message people for help because they'll always see the busy icon on Teams" and "as soon as you're back in the office you'll realize how much you missed it"
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Jun 16, 2021 22:17
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It is surprising how keen people are for free food to sit through terrible lunch and learns. I go to them but then just take off an hour early or whatever as payment, must balance the scales.
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Jun 16, 2021 22:39
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remigious posted:So…the company I work for is owned by a private equity firm, and the CEO just suddenly departed. That’s a really bad sign, right? It might turn out great, depending what kind of severance you end up getting. Is it a sign it's time to find your next job, yeah.
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Jun 16, 2021 22:57
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i've been on the new team's side when the new CEO comes in and it's pretty much always bad news for the old regime on the other hand if you're a problem child within the old regime your prospects may have improved although this is not a real likely outcome on the third hand if you're low enough on the totem pole you'll just be playing the RIF lottery rather than being directly targeted for being useless
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Jun 16, 2021 23:08
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Sundae posted:Brainworms.jpg... (if you thought my answer was the single no, shame on you. My answer is the invisible one that didn't respond to an internal slack survey. * People eat at different times * People eat different things * People eat at different speeds * It's always a meeting where people are expected to "participate", then they complain that no one says anything * Catered community style food * Indigestion The best I've seen were monthly, and the food places used websites where individuals could place their order as part of the group (so personal order, up to the limit, but no hassle of expense reporting, and it was delivered as a group order). I'd usually eat 20% and take the rest home, having eaten lunch 2hr earlier. Always order up to the limit. Add a beverage. Add a cookie! Add a happy ending! If nothing else you can save the day when a peer forgets to order, ends up with the fruitcake, and you didn't need that cookie (or happy ending) anyway.
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Jun 16, 2021 23:36
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I don't mind lunch meetings if it's just getting talked at while I eat
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Jun 16, 2021 23:42
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The only good working lunch I've ever had in my life was jury duty. We already came to a decision an hour earlier but we also unanimously agreed to wait so we could have a free lunch. The only thing better than making corporate pay for you food is making the government.
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Jun 16, 2021 23:43
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:Lunch meetings are awful because: This also applies to all other lunchtimes in the office in this part of the world, where going for lunch as a group with colleagues is pretty much expected. They also go ridiculously early by my reckoning, at about 12:00 when I'm normally on a roll with something. But, having an enforced 45-min break is pretty good for the brain and the food is OK.
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Jun 17, 2021 00:02
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Umm...Lunch Break? You mean you guys get breaks?
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Sundae posted:
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Jun 17, 2021 00:10
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Pillowpants posted:Umm...Lunch Break? You mean you guys get breaks? I think you just said you work in HR, so in that case no I never take any breaks
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Jun 17, 2021 00:14
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:on the third hand if you're low enough on the totem pole you'll just be playing the RIF lottery rather than being directly targeted for being useless Asking for a friend....
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Jun 17, 2021 00:42
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Not a Children posted:"as soon as you're back in the office you'll realize how much you missed it" Technically correct.
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Jun 17, 2021 00:45
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knox_harrington posted:I think you just said you work in HR, so in that case no I never take any breaks I run the payroll group which everyone thinks is part of finance but is part of HR so I get to listen to everyone complain about HR
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Jun 17, 2021 00:51
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The Good: had an "employee appreciation" thing this afternoon that was just "come eat ice cream, listen to the CEO say he's proud of us, and go home two hours early. The Bad: one of our Operations folks who was a very hard worker and seemed like a very solid if slightly volatile (ahem) guy celebrated a belated Meltdown May last night in such a way that was apparently bad enough to get him fired on the spot. And has apparently been contacting partners and clients and badmouthing us today. Fun fun fun.
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Jun 17, 2021 00:53
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knox_harrington posted:This also applies to all other lunchtimes in the office in this part of the world, where going for lunch as a group with colleagues is pretty much expected. They also go ridiculously early by my reckoning, at about 12:00 when I'm normally on a roll with something. Noon is really early to have tomorrow’s lunch, true. If I try really hard I can make it till 11:30 or so, while my personal best is 10:15. But that’s on the days when I start work between 4-5am, so my internal clock is all off.
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Jun 17, 2021 01:09
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remigious posted:So…the company I work for is owned by a private equity firm, and the CEO just suddenly departed. That’s a really bad sign, right? It’s typical, but not a good sign. That’s what happened at my first career gig when I was laid off. Start polishing your resume. First they come for coffee, then they come for heads. Edit: I’ve literally told my boss if they cut free coffee im assuming company is on the ropes and I will start looking for my next job.
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Jun 17, 2021 02:33
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Tnuctip posted:It’s typical, but not a good sign. That’s what happened at my first career gig when I was laid off. Start polishing your resume. That just sounds like they're gonna fire you before the coffee lol
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Jun 17, 2021 02:45
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FAUXTON posted:That just sounds like they're gonna fire you before the coffee lol Nah, it took a guy flashing a swastika tattoo after being suspended 3 times to finally get fired. I’m at a plant after all. Same dude was told no swastika vinyl on his car (a VW of course), and replaced it with the German double headed hawk 
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Jun 17, 2021 02:49
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FAUXTON posted:That just sounds like they're gonna fire you before the coffee lol Smart play if true. Get that severance and get on the job market ahead of the rush.
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Jun 17, 2021 03:13
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Inner Light posted:My boss and program management structure aren't great, but my boss would not be okay if someone was trying to reach me on PTO and it wasn't a real urgent need. Or that need couldn't be taken care of by someone not on PTO. My first full-time job (~4.5 years) baked in some really unhealthy habits with this. I think the highlight was me stopping for like 15 minutes to describe the file path on the shared drive to access scanned invoices while hiking through Acadia National Park. If I had work from home capabilities then, yikes. My current direct supervisor was really hardline about that before the move to work from home and I appreciate it.
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Jun 17, 2021 03:28
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The problem always comes back to management not supporting the work culture they claim to support. Here's the process, illustrated two different ways: 1) My underling goes on vacation. 2) Someone calls her, gets no answer. 3) He calls me, and I tell him that she is on vacation. 4) He insists it is urgent, and that he needs it sorted right now. 5) I tell him to either talk through the scenario with me to see if I can help, or to ask her co-engineers on the project team to cover for her. 6) If he's reasonable, he goes to the project team or works with me on it. If he's unreasonable, he goes past me to either my boss's boss or one level above that. 7) If it goes up, it comes back down to me and I tell them "I'll take care of it." My answer is then back to #5 again to go talk to the co-engineers. The call never gets to my underling, because I tell them I'll take care of it. Scenario 2: 1) I go on vacation 2) I ignore calls. 3) It escalates up the chain to my boss's boss or higher, because there is no equivalent to my role in the department. 4) It comes back down to my direct boss, who either caves and calls me, or insists that it has to wait until I'm back from vacation, so my boss's boss calls me instead. The part missing in both cases is management being unwilling to stand firm on PTO. The extra part missing in my case is that there is nobody else in the group qualified to do my job if I leave the office.
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Jun 17, 2021 04:09
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Feels like a good time to post the reason i left my last job:
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Sundae posted:The problem always comes back to management not supporting the work culture they claim to support. Here's the process, illustrated two different ways: Things like this is why I'm very happy to be a lowly cog in the machine. Like, I'm sure we all have fantasies about quitting a job and the place collapsing behind us, but around here I'll be forgotten within a week. I much prefer it that way. I have my on-call rotation sure but I haven't been called once, and I'm actually excited for my company cell phone to come in because all those cold calling car warranties and political canvasing calls are ruining my sleep during my rotations when I can't mute my phone otherwise. I'm not afraid of it because nobody's going to call me out of hours. I'm not important enough. j3rkstore posted:Feels like a good time to post the reason i left my last job: No jury would convict you.
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Jun 17, 2021 04:56
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Sundae posted:The part missing in both cases is management being unwilling to stand firm on PTO. The extra part missing in my case is that there is nobody else in the group qualified to do my job if I leave the office. "Extra" yes, but still a fundamental management failure. That text.......that text, I can't even quote it. I don't think I've been this mad since I actually had a corporate job. If one of my reports did that I don't even know what I would do, but it would be very harsh. And if I was directed to do something like that or someone above me did it things would go.......oh wait...about as well as it did for me. Right, that kind of poo poo is why I've been not working for (checks notes) a year. Huh.
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Jun 17, 2021 05:09
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Motronic posted:"Extra" yes, but still a fundamental management failure. Agreed. The fundamental failure is management. Somehow, it always is. And murder whoever sent you that text, j3rkstore.
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Sundae posted:Agreed. The fundamental failure is management. Somehow, it always is. I feel like there's a contingent of us in here....desperate and delusional.....trying to hold the line on being a decent front line manager.
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Motronic posted:I feel like there's a contingent of us in here....desperate and delusional.....trying to hold the line on being a decent front line manager. Hoping that leading by example will pay off. It’s the hope that kills you.
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Democratic Pirate posted:If I try really hard I can make it till 11:30 or so, while my personal best is 10:15. But that’s on the days when I start work between 4-5am, so my internal clock is all off. The same people that want lunch at 2pm are the same people that want "an extra hour of sunlight give me DST  " who then proceed to start work after 11am each day.
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Jun 17, 2021 06:34
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I got cheated out of 3 tenths of a cent per hour in my merit raise and I'm about to raise hell about it
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I tend to take a late lunch, but only because I always have no drive to do any work when I come back. So the later I take a lunch, the less time I have to suffer watching the clock wind down. I also treat lunch like sick time. Lunch is wasted on eating. I'd rather work through lunch and eat at my desk then use my lunch time to go take a walk and relax, or in the case with WFH, play with my kid for a little bit. poo poo, right now I'm 8.5 hours into a 10 hour shift and I haven't taken a single break yet. I'll burn my 30 minute lunch and 2x15 breaks all at once to get him ready for school and out the door when he wakes up. Then I'll dink around at my desk for 15 minutes and clock out. My team is fine with that, my boss is fine with that, we all play dumb to labor laws, everyone wins. Which is why returning to the office will ruin me. I spend enough dicking around on the internet during downtime that my brain isn't burnt out, and years of being a lazy goon has conditioned my rear end to be sat on for long stretches of time no problem.
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Sundae posted:Brainworms.jpg... (if you thought my answer was the single no, shame on you. My answer is the invisible one that didn't respond to an internal slack survey.
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Cheesus posted:Do new team leads tend to talk to everyone to figure out what they do and know or do they just take the word of the soon to be redundant leads? its generally a good way to find out if the new lead is competent at all. if they are they will do inventory themselves because why would they take the word of someone who is probably an idiot?
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Jun 17, 2021 14:03
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evil_bunnY posted:legally mandated lunch break! im sorry what
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:its generally a good way to find out if the new lead is competent at all. if they are they will do inventory themselves because why would they take the word of someone who is probably an idiot? I assume saying "My idiot manager has never asked and does not understand anything about my abilities or knowledge or contributions to our product and company and in fact has created a toxic work environment." is a super bad idea.
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Jun 17, 2021 14:50
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Just in a company FIRE presentation. Seems unusual. But hell yeah I want to RE 
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FIRE does encourage working yourself above a sustainable level in the long term with the plan being to have enough money when you burn out, but this might actually not have an ulterior motive. Sometimes guest speakers are fun.
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