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Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Out of all the tech in Westworld to lust over...

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Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

A chunky bezel is a sign of quality, I tell you.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Thermopyle posted:

Out of all the tech in Westworld to lust over...

Look I don't want sentient sexy robots, okay?

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Without bezels where'd front facing speakers go?

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

OhFunny posted:

Without bezels where'd front facing speakers go?

Maybe some weird setup where it's built into the frame edges but has some acoustic waveshaping wizardry going on to direct it forward and let it not sound like farts in a kazoo

Honestly if they did that and said it was an AI running an equation against the waveform and outputting something that is mathematically tailored to resonate a certain way in the space it has, and come out the holes sounding awesome, people'd be like "yeah that's textbook google poo poo"

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

OhFunny posted:

Without bezels where'd front facing speakers go?

Screen sound, whatever that tech is called? Honestly I think the Galaxy S9 is almost perfect design at this point, much better than the notch shite we have otherwise.

Untill we get embedded fingerprint sensors in the screen plus the screen sound thing, we've reached peak phone design.

I pray for the bezels to shrink on the Pixel 3 compared to the 2. I love my P2 but it is not a good looking display.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

OhFunny posted:

Without bezels where'd front facing speakers go?

Have a bottom firing one, then add a top firing one :newlol:


Didn't the iPad Pro actually do this? I recall something about a speaker in each corner.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Thermopyle posted:

Out of all the tech in Westworld to lust over...

Defend Your Perversion :roboluv:

:forkbomb:

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Mister Facetious posted:

Have a bottom firing one, then add a top firing one :newlol:


Didn't the iPad Pro actually do this? I recall something about a speaker in each corner.

Tab S3 has a speaker arrangement such that you get stereo no matter the orientation.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Why do people want fingerprint scanners on the screen?

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




WattsvilleBlues posted:

Screen sound, whatever that tech is called? Honestly I think the Galaxy S9 is almost perfect design at this point, much better than the notch shite we have otherwise.

Untill we get embedded fingerprint sensors in the screen plus the screen sound thing, we've reached peak phone design.

I pray for the bezels to shrink on the Pixel 3 compared to the 2. I love my P2 but it is not a good looking display.

I agree, the S9 is amazing hardware. I just want the Pixel Android OS on it.

carticket
Jun 28, 2005

white and gold.

PerrineClostermann posted:

Why do people want fingerprint scanners on the screen?

Because front scanners are supremely convenient.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Mr. Powers posted:

Because front scanners are supremely convenient.

Explain

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Mr. Powers posted:

Because front scanners are supremely convenient.

No, they're bad.

But...



Let's not do this yet again.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
https://amp.smh.com.au/business/companies/china-s-zte-was-built-to-spy-and-bribe-court-documents-allege-20180531-p4ziqd.html


quote:

ZTE has been shortlisted to build Telstra’s 5G mobile phone network in Australia and is one of two bidders vying to provide a new communications system for Perth’s rail network, despite long-held national security concerns about the company.

The new claims form part of an ongoing commercial litigation case filed in Texas, alleging that ZTE bribed Liberian officials, to unseat a US company which had won the right to upgrade the West African country’s telecommunications networks.

Contained in the Summary of Claims are allegations ZTE was formed partly with the aim of spying for Beijing.

“China's Ministry of Aerospace founded ZTE as a front to send officers abroad under non-diplomatic covers such as scientists, businessmen and executives for the purpose of collecting intelligence,” the documents filed in the 191st District Court of Dallas reveal.



Well then.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
OnePlus 6 review. It has a headphone jack.

9/10

carticket
Jun 28, 2005

white and gold.


Picture if you will, a phone, wired to a bomb, presenting you with a message: unlock this phone with the print of an innocent finger. The bomb will go off if the phone is moved.

Not in a very good situation with a rear scanner, are we?

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Mr. Powers posted:

Picture if you will, a phone, wired to a bomb, presenting you with a message: unlock this phone with the print of an innocent finger. The bomb will go off if the phone is moved.

Not in a very good situation with a rear scanner, are we?

:stare:

gently caress.

Desk Lamp
Jun 30, 2014

bull3964 posted:

Let this thread always remember that Samsung went to court to defend their right to not update their phones.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/31/samsung-wins-update-lawsuit-netherlands-wont-required-provide-four-year-update-periods-phones/

Judging from the article that seems like pretty much an unwinnable case. No smartphone OEM supports their devices for as long as the lawsuit was requesting (except Apple because they have complete control of their platform). Imposing a blanket requirement to support phones for that long ignores the realities of Android today.

It's possible Project Treble alleviates this to some extent but as it stands not even Google could guarantee that they'll be able to update all their phones for over 5 years. Unless sweeping regulations are introduced forcing every player involved in the making and support of phones to plan for a 5+ year minimum support window.

FAUXTON posted:

Maybe some weird setup where it's built into the frame edges but has some acoustic waveshaping wizardry going on to direct it forward and let it not sound like farts in a kazoo

Honestly if they did that and said it was an AI running an equation against the waveform and outputting something that is mathematically tailored to resonate a certain way in the space it has, and come out the holes sounding awesome, people'd be like "yeah that's textbook google poo poo"

Google would give this big convoluted explanation at I/O and no one would give a poo poo. Apple would just give it a catchy name like Retina Sound (yes, I know it makes no sense) and everyone including your mother will be telling you how the speakers on any other phone just can't compare.

Desk Lamp fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Jun 1, 2018

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


WattsvilleBlues posted:

Screen sound, whatever that tech is called? Honestly I think the Galaxy S9 is almost perfect design at this point, much better than the notch shite we have otherwise.

Untill we get embedded fingerprint sensors in the screen plus the screen sound thing, we've reached peak phone design.

I pray for the bezels to shrink on the Pixel 3 compared to the 2. I love my P2 but it is not a good looking display.

Strongly disagree. I won't deny that Samsung makes amazing hardware, but I despise the curved screen. I frankly don't understand why anyone likes it or how it's lasted this long as a design. I figured the first couple versions were to flaunt their superior screens but would then fade away but.... Somehow that hasn't happened.

I like my pixel 2 but its bezels are larger than I care for - If those renders of the 3 turn out to be accurate it'll be my perfect phone. Top/bottom bezels just big enough for speakers and holding, side bezels that are small enough to be out of the way without annoying leaking into the side of the phone.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
S9 curved screen is total poo poo and is just asking to break the loving phone. It gives literally negative benefit to the phone.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Don Lapre posted:

S9 curved screen is total poo poo and is just asking to break the loving phone. It gives literally negative benefit to the phone.

Imo it looks real nice, but that's just my opinion.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

CLAM DOWN posted:

Imo it looks real nice, but that's just my opinion.

Yeah but not actually using it. Why do you want video to waterfall off the edge

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Don Lapre posted:

Yeah but not actually using it. Why do you want video to waterfall off the edge

I dunno, again, personally I think it looks nice when it does that. I used curved screen Samsung phones for years and was always a big fan of their displays and hardware designs.

Desk Lamp
Jun 30, 2014
I've never had any problems watching video on them.

carticket
Jun 28, 2005

white and gold.


The stakes are high on fingerprint scanner placement.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Mr. Powers posted:

The stakes are high on fingerprint scanner placement.

Well tell them to sober up, I want my stakes clean and sober in the shop.

Daily Forecast
Dec 25, 2008

by R. Guyovich

CLAM DOWN posted:

Imo it looks real nice, but that's just my opinion.

I have an S9 and the curved screen is literally worthless and I wish Samsung would just ditch this stupid fad already. It adds nothing and just makes screen protectors harder to make and install.

I guess Samsung will shed no tears if more phones get broken (and then replaced) because of their lovely curved glass.

Robzilla
Jul 28, 2003

READ IT AND WEEP JEWBOY!
Fun Shoe
So my Windows Lumia 635 bit the dust and I've been looking into getting an Android phone. That said, I'm out of my depth on which phones are good and which to avoid. Wondering if any of you might help a goon out.

Budget: $150
AT&T, T-Mobile, or GSM unlocked. (Work on Consumer Cellular basically.)

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Robzilla posted:

So my Windows Lumia 635 bit the dust and I've been looking into getting an Android phone. That said, I'm out of my depth on which phones are good and which to avoid. Wondering if any of you might help a goon out.

Budget: $150
AT&T, T-Mobile, or GSM unlocked. (Work on Consumer Cellular basically.)

$150? Like I guess a Moto E or something. Just so long as you're aware you're not getting anything remotely close to good for that price.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
Target has e4 plus Verizon for $36-$69 clearance. You can unlock via eBay.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Now there's rumors of a mid-range Pixel with the SD710 launching in the first half of 2019.

That could be interesting. A phone with a Pixel level camera, likely 1080p screen running Pixel software for the $500 price range for everyone who didn't need to be on the bleeding edge of performance.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
It's amazing my daughter's $30 moto e4 is on a newer security update then a lot of $700 s9s

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

I don't want to have a discussion about parenting styles, but that reminds me of something...from a technical standpoint:

For anyone that is giving a younger kid an android phone, are you doing anything to limit it, filter it, or restrict it in any way and if so, what?

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

I got my son a tablet when he was around 7 and a phone without service later, I use an applock app to block the browser and any other apps he doesn't need to use, disabled youtube. Basically he can play games on them or read ebooks and it requires me entering a pin to install any other apps or access the phone settings

This one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.domobile.applock

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Thermopyle posted:

I don't want to have a discussion about parenting styles, but that reminds me of something...from a technical standpoint:

For anyone that is giving a younger kid an android phone, are you doing anything to limit it, filter it, or restrict it in any way and if so, what?

We use Google WiFi which should block 98% of porn, Gore, and conservative websites.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Does it block SJW stuff?

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
I don't have kids, but I hear Amazon's tablets have really good parental controls built in.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

PerrineClostermann posted:

Does it block SJW stuff?

What?

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sourdough
Apr 30, 2012
Does anyone have a Pixel 1 or 2 and not have problems with mesh routers? I remember someone posting a while back that it was an issue that a Pixel could kill a WiFi network by connecting to it. I'm not getting that, but I am getting really annoying WiFi disconnects at a university, that IT seems to think is related to problems handing off between access points or something. Thing is, even if I'm sitting in one place, it keeps happening, like 1-3 times a minute will disconnect for 5 seconds, then reconnect. Just wondering if there's any magic to fix it.

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