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The main problem with submissions in my opinion, is twofold: 1) they are hard to see. The tap out animation is much of the time hard to distinguish from the 'breaks free' or 'released by aggressor' animations, and the zoomed out camera compounds this. So when a submission breaks and then you get the 'wins by submission' message, it often comes as a surprise and leaves you feeling deflated. 2) basic submissions have been conditioned in the minds of the audience to basically never be expected to work. This is partially WWE booking itself, what with tapping out often looking weaker compared to losing by Pinfall, and by wwe '13's woefully weak submissions. This makes a loss to a chin lock feel cheap and less satisfying, as it doesn't fit the WWE style we expect. That submissions work now is certainly new and different, but that they now decide the majority of contests is far less exciting for the viewer than if they were a more uncommon occurrence. Obamaroll a were fun because they sometimes resulted in a 3 count but rarely did so enough that people didn't get bride by them or assumed they would end the match. Hopefully Bazza can find the sweet spot of submission damage to make submissions viable but not too commonplace. Blasmeister fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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This would be great for the OP. But where's Rain??
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Nov 20, 2013 22:59
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Shieldhill posted:This would be great for the OP. Rain can be found in the graveyard.
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Nov 20, 2013 23:23
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Shieldhill posted:This would be great for the OP. He's exclusive to the attract mode  .
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Nov 20, 2013 23:24
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Shieldhill posted:This would be great for the OP. It should be a little bit slower.
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Nov 21, 2013 00:34
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Seeing Ezio and Dan going at it last night got me bummed that we never got to see a Drac Pack vs Elite Four match. We probably won't ever get anything like a now that Raph is gone and everything that went down with the Dracula, Kefka, and Vegeta. Oh well, maybe we can get at least get Dan vs Gary "Who's the smuggest of them all?" match. 
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Nov 21, 2013 00:44
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Captain Invictus posted:It should be a little bit slower. Eh, it's actually already slower than what's shown in the intro, but I can slow it down even more if needs be. If anyone has any gif requests, I'm happy to oblige. I just picked out my favourite spots.
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Nov 21, 2013 00:44
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Blasmeister posted:The main problem with submissions in my opinion, is twofold: Just think of submissions as another kind of pin, and the problem resolves itself. They work best after finishers but sometimes without one, just like the other way to win a match. I don't think a submission would work in a place where pins don't. Of course, I am just basing this off of two nights.
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Nov 21, 2013 00:46
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Submissions kinda suck because the AI decides whether it will tap out or not at the start of a submission, and when it does it will refuse to do rope breaks, making it obvious what's going to happen.
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Nov 21, 2013 01:04
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Captain Invictus posted:Honestly, having any Touhou character would open up the possibility of just mainlining Touhou music, which is never a bad thing and has more remixes out there than pretty much anything.
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Nov 21, 2013 01:10
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Tengames posted:Submissions kinda suck because the AI decides whether it will tap out or not at the start of a submission, and when it does it will refuse to do rope breaks, making it obvious what's going to happen. Well that's dumb. Explains why Red didn't grab the ropes.
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Nov 21, 2013 01:33
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Policenaut posted:SORA! DONALD! GOOFY! SHIELD! We live in hope.
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Nov 21, 2013 01:59
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Blasmeister posted:1) they are hard to see. Also I love the gifs and I would love if highlights popped out in that form every few nights.
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Nov 21, 2013 02:03
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It's just missing a shot of Gary trashtalking Gief backstage before the fight.
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Nov 21, 2013 02:07
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Bazza's twitter posted:"Bazza clearly took control of Kefka after that. The taunting gave it away." It's funny when people are so adamant when they're wrong. Didn't someone on SA say that?
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Nov 21, 2013 03:03
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Yes.
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Nov 21, 2013 03:09
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SoggyBobcat posted:Didn't someone on SA say that? Yeah that was Jubs that said that claiming Bazza probably turned off the HUD. Pretty sure it was only him that thought that.
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Nov 21, 2013 03:10
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For the security trio, I'd like to think that Gabe needed a little HEEEAAALP!
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Nov 21, 2013 03:15
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It's The Cheetahmen.
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Sindai posted:If nothing else, Nuclear Fusion should be WVGCW's equivalent to You Will Know Our Names, since it's the best boss theme ever. Yeah, some of the remixes would fit perfectly. I really like this one but it's too UNTZ for wrestling unfortunately, if it was more low-key, the air raid sirens would fit in great for a finale battle. Some good ones would be Xi-On, Sun Worship of Gnosis, Demetori - 霊知の太陽信仰 - Nuclear Fusion(Demetori's pretty good at everything really), Electric RED - The Mantle, Artillery Fire, UI-70, 霊知の太陽信仰でメタルっぽい何か(might not fit well with WVGCW but I like it, and I feel like no Nuclear Fusion remix is complete without warning klaxons and air raid sirens), and.......Disco Nuclear Fusion???. It's hard to improve on perfection, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy_-7OXophY
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Caught last nights show today (Thanks Zylch3!) and I couldn't stop laughing at Gary's new intro. It was perfect for him.  You could just feel the smug radiating from him.
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So, I spent a few hours working on a thing. He went through a couple of iterations; so now he's ever-so-slightly shorter than Tingle. He puts up a pretty good fight, though!
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Of course he does, he's Frog. It'd be a travesty if he didn't. 
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Robo would be a great addition, come to think of it. He's already a bit of a pugilist, and oh man that awesome theme music  Frog/Robo tag battles would be awesome to see.
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PoptartsNinja posted:So, I spent a few hours working on a thing. Does he have a human form alt?
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Angry Diplomat posted:Robo would be a great addition, come to think of it. He's already a bit of a pugilist, and oh man that awesome theme music That would be rad as hell. They even have a cool team name already: Epoch. Or they could have Melchior as their manager and be The End of Time.
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Angry Diplomat posted:Robo would be a great addition, come to think of it. He's already a bit of a pugilist, and oh man that awesome theme music 
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SNST had a lot of really weird, out there characters. Does anyone remember Oghren? You know, the super memorable Oghren from Dragon Age? He was in SNST once.
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I remember Oghren. He liked cookies and was pretty cool.
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Bloodly posted:Does he have a human form alt? No, because I can't change his proportions and he is uuuuuuuugly without the frog mask on.
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Bloodly posted:Does he have a human form alt? But that's literally just green haired Vegeta.
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Dastardly posted:But that's literally just green haired Vegeta. Like that's unusual for a Toriyama character ? He can only draw three human faces.
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Jackie D posted:oh man Practice really needs a mashup theme someone talented (not me) get on this I tried 
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Go RV! posted:Or they could have Melchior as their manager and be The End of Time.  of my thread.
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You know, I was thinking. WVGCW doesn't really have a good psychopath. I mean, Terra kind if goes overboard, and Daisy has a few brain problems, but she's pretty calm and methodical. There's no chaotic villain like Mr. L or Kefka. I've got two possibilities in mind: Jinx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlJuwO0GDs Rubi Malone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVl_7C74jkw Of the two, Jinx would probably be more interesting in general, but goddamn if WET didn't have the best soundtrack in recent memory. Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:
It was Gaspar, wasn't it. I'm going to stop trying to remember things at work.
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WVGCW tomorrow! Also, screw Jinx and Rubi. Anna Navarre, man.
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Go RV! posted:You know, I was thinking. WVGCW doesn't really have a good psychopath. I mean, Terra kind if goes overboard, and Daisy has a few brain problems, but she's pretty calm and methodical. There's no chaotic villain like Mr. L or Kefka. The guy who suggested Queen Zeal was on the right track. You don't even need to use that glitch, since she's got a decent human form already.
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I assume you actually meant Jynx for WVGCW?
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The Saints Boss is literally a psychopath.
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Luminous Obscurity posted:The Saints Boss is literally a psychopath. Yeah, but she seems to be more along the lines of the Gabe-style affably unstable, instead of the Mr. L criminal insanity, at least how Bryn is writing her so far. It's hard to take a character that is a send-up of the genre as a real horrific maniac, especially when their finisher is like a thousand nut-kicks.
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