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An interesting post from a JP vet on GameFAQs about the upcoming FFT banners:SolitaireD posted:
Here's hoping it's a bit exaggerated.
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Jul 10, 2018 09:22
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RW system desperately needs an overhaul because I genuinely don't know if I'm going to die of old age before I find what I'm looking for amid the thousands of Ultra Cross Slashes.
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Jul 10, 2018 10:42
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you just get dr mog for like 80% of the challenging content anyway, and can rely on like two godwalls for the rest
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Jul 10, 2018 10:50
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Try using http://friends-ffrk.com - you can look up someone with the right RW and add them to your friend list.
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Jul 10, 2018 10:51
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Ripley posted:Try using http://friends-ffrk.com - you can look up someone with the right RW and add them to your friend list. That is hells of useful, cheers.
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Jul 10, 2018 11:19
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I did notice that banners and even fests get less exciting going forward, I kind of blame that on brave mode usb’s just not being that great. The 12 relic change seems objectively better though so dunno why people are upset about that. Avalerion fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Jul 10, 2018 |
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Jul 10, 2018 12:18
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yay orran
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Jul 10, 2018 12:30
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Avalerion posted:The 12 relic change seems objectively better though so dunno why people are upset about that. I've been trying to figure that out as well. My impression from the sidelines is that it's objectively better (or at least no worse) than having two extra mediocre BSBs on the banner, but feels subjectively worse when a) you're the unlucky dope who goes 1/11 Squall's BSB1, or b) you're a whale who spent $200 to get Hot Item X on a previous banner and now it shows up randomly off-banner.
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Jul 10, 2018 12:50
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Ripley posted:b) you're a whale who spent $200 to get Hot Item X on a previous banner and now it shows up randomly off-banner. It is worth noting that Reddit's opinion is skewed by this as there are a fair few people doing cash pulls. Heck, as I understand it there's more than a few people who have managed to spend enough that Google actually cuts them off and refuses to process further payments. I will say I don't play my JP account as actively as I used to but I'm also not playing my new Global as much either. It is true that all the banner 2's recently have been nothing but old stuff, though.
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Jul 10, 2018 14:56
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Even then you'd think vets would prefer having a banner they can safely ignore instead of spreading the new relics out even more, while there will always be new players for whom it might not actually be old stuff.
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Jul 10, 2018 15:24
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Avalerion posted:Even then you'd think vets would prefer having a banner they can safely ignore instead of spreading the new relics out even more, while there will always be new players for whom it might not actually be old stuff. That's kind of been my reaction. Like yeah, it sucks if some of the stuff you want is on banner 2 . . . I dunno, I've got literally hundreds of relics and probably at least 50 USBs so I just kind of pull for whoever I want cool things for and don't worry about it otherwise. 
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Jul 10, 2018 15:46
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I really wasn't completely sure of what magicites were worthy of inheritance and what they'd be inheriting. The only ones that jumped out at me were adding empower water to Kraken since it's the only 4* imperil (and my water team is rad) and doubling up the damper elements. After grinding Tiamat this week, I've finally got all 8 elements with two lvl10 dampers inherited. I scored Squall's AOSB and Glint during the fest so I wanted to try out getting a sub-30 on Tiamat with a physical team, but I'm consistently a sliver of health off. Oh well, my magic team took care of it and even got a sub-25 number (Lulu's USB is good y'all). I think topping off the 3* imperil magicites makes the most sense as far as future inheritance goes.
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Jul 10, 2018 17:29
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For future reference, you can get a 7 dampen at lv65, so you end up with 14% instead of 15% for way less exp. As far as the 3* imperils go, beefing up shell dragon (and your earth decks in general) is good, but for all the other elements so far, everyone seems to use the 5* magicites as their mains because at lv99 they always do overflow hits, which basically takes care of the savage mode mechanic for you.
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Jul 10, 2018 17:47
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I hope Olan's Ultra inflicts either resistance-piercing Stop or Slow or Paralyze or something like that.  It'll probably just give everyone fast cast for 2 turns or something boring, though. 
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Jul 10, 2018 17:47
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I'm definitely starting to feel some annoyance at future banners. I really need some good holy USBs or a chain, because Hades is the only 4* I can't sub-30 yet. Right now my only decent options are Ramza, Agrias, or Beatrix, and then nothing until the next festival. And those options suck because the FFT banner is full of dupes and the FF9 banner is full of garbage. It really doesn't help that the good holy USBs are concentrated in the hands of only a few characters (Orlandeau, Marche, Beatrix) while the rest are basically just enholy SSBs with a useless defensive buff. Or that most of their LM2s are classic examples of trying to squeeze a tank peg into a dps hole. No DeNA, nobody cares that Basch has a chance to cover another character on the rare PHY-coded attack. Maybe I'm just at the point where I've played this game enough to really notice its flaws.
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Jul 10, 2018 18:06
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Gave Tiamat a go and gently caress those back to back aoe hits sideways. What's the recomended strategy here, three healers, a ton of blinks?
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Jul 10, 2018 18:19
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Fister Roboto posted:I'm definitely starting to feel some annoyance at future banners. I really need some good holy USBs or a chain, because Hades is the only 4* I can't sub-30 yet. Right now my only decent options are Ramza, Agrias, or Beatrix, and then nothing until the next festival. And those options suck because the FFT banner is full of dupes and the FF9 banner is full of garbage. I think part of it is without a chain, I find physical teams do way less damage than magic teams in the magicite world. I'm not sure if it's because of where the soft caps are at in relation to the boss stats, but with a couple magic buffs, decent mage relics can go a long way versus a physical team up against the soft cap. This is especially problematic with Holy since there are a million physical holy characters and like two mages. I don't know if anyone else gets similar results but unless you have top tier physical relics, magic has always been the way to go for me.
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Jul 10, 2018 18:36
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Avalerion posted:Gave Tiamat a go and gently caress those back to back aoe hits sideways. What's the recomended strategy here, three healers, a ton of blinks? it's the only 4* that i double-heal, with selphie and elarra if you don't have a good last stand you're probably in trouble though
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Jul 10, 2018 19:12
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The Bismarck Magicite helps as a one-shot buffer against Savage Jet Fire. Tiamat uses two back to back near the end, so that could be handy.
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Jul 10, 2018 19:16
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SolitaireD knows what he’s talking about. Though he is leaving something out. Event banners are indeed 100% focused on relics for nutorments with no regards to 5* magicites. It’s plain as day and admittably it makes sense. Want synergy for FFIV? Pull on a IV banner. This is made worse by a lot of people straight up ignoring the torments because the hardest difficulty is literally whale only territory. It is absolutely off limits for someone like me and if I were to go deep enough on one realm to beat it I no longer have mythril for the other ~15. So gently caress them imo. However DeNA did release elemental pickup banners and stuff like ability double pickups to gear people up for magicites. We can’t tell if those are coming to GL but I’m fairly confident we get them. It’s difficult to plan for them since we can’t tell what’s going to be on them and when they’ll come. It’s strange to lose the JP foresight. What FR said about physical holy USBs being limited to three users is also true. I guess Ramza can join them as a fourth soon. Unfortunately it’s not even limited to holy. How many users have good physical ice usbs? Squall, Laguna? Laguna is ideally your chain holder too. Physical water is strong as hell but it’s just bartz, teedus and the ninjas. Physical earth? Magic earth, water, wind, holy? Magic ice is just Rinoa and Ysayle for now too. Meanwhile at DeNA headquarters another fire USB is being made. On a banner with a new dark mage USB that no one asked for. Probably intentional but terrible design nevertheless.
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Jul 10, 2018 19:29
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:Probably intentional but terrible design nevertheless. When you keep one-upping the difficulty level while leaving the artificial realm constraints in place, something's going to give.
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Jul 10, 2018 19:40
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i dunno, it looks like an attempt to bilk customers by intentionally narrowing the viable options to me e: geeze we're up for 6 months of nothing but loving fire aren't we
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Jul 10, 2018 19:41
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Fister Roboto posted:Maybe I'm just at the point where I've played this game enough to really notice its flaws. I mean, your description is accurate, though. The game's content feels like it's designed around a bunch of assumptions - elemental damage types are equally common and viable, realms are equally stocked with useful characters and relics - that aren't true. Instead you have a ton of characters and SBs that are only contextually useful (debuffs) or pretty much questionable 100% of the time (tank poo poo) because the whole endgame has always been about DPS throughput and kill speed other than some of the Nightmares. Magicites just made that speed thing more explicit, but it's always been the case that dawdling and playing too defensively will wreck you because of stuff like hones and so many high level bosses having timed or critical HP triggers to go psycho. The easiest solution would be to just chill with the loving difficulty increases for a long time, but then whales would complain that the game was too easy and people wouldn't be spending enough money. F2P ftl
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Jul 10, 2018 19:47
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:Meanwhile at DeNA headquarters another fire USB is being made. On a banner with a new dark mage USB that no one asked for. My favourite is the Fire USB made for the character with a completely dark focused dive. Lookin' at you Jecht. Before I grabbed Maria's USB the fest, I was seriously looking at WoFF for my magical holy/earth needs. As in, I wanted more magical earth which Enna Kros does well (and brings some stat sticks for her to use) but I really wanted Tama's Holy Radiant Shield so I could stall just my way through the eventual magic holy Magicite with Raines, Tama and three White Mages.
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Jul 10, 2018 20:02
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Are all the 5* Wisdom motes locked behind bosses with lovely mechanics? The XIV jumpstart Torment is bullshit, the VI Goddess is bullshit, none of these fights allow me to be super offensive. Goddess resists everything, I can never kill Garuda’s razor things in time.
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Jul 10, 2018 20:11
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Honestly for the XIV D300 Torment I just ate the Aerial Blast to the face and somehow lived. You can probably just Last Stand through it or put up a Stoneskin.
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Jul 10, 2018 21:03
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So I decided to pick this game up again after the new thread was made. Last I was playing I was record diving Onion Knight and I had just picked up TG Cid Overstrike soul break. I followed the post on the first page and have been completing realm dungeons and anything else I can plow through with auto battle. But now I gotta put the big boy pants and start doing nightmare dungeons and the sort. I am sitting on almost 400 mythril. Need some advice where to use it. Current Ultra SB: Zell - Burning Duel Josef - Heroic Soul Relm - Divine Portrait Aerith - Hidden Bloom Shantotto - A Thousand Suns Wakka - Aurochs Spirit Current Overstrike SB: TG Cid - Thunder God Maria - Kerplode XXXII Onion Knight - Sword and Spell Kain - Kain's Lance I got about 20 Burst SB's - I can list them if it helps but most notable include: Yshotla - Asylum PCecil - Paladin Force Beatrix - Knight Protector Luneth - Eternal Wind Krile - Tomorrow's Promise Meliadoul - Crush Helm SSB Ramza - Shout Arc - Renewing Rains / Word of Kindness Luneth - Swordshower Onion Knight - Onion Slice Krile - Sheepsong Ovelia - Divine Ward Tyro - Sentinel Shield (it took until now to get this) Minfilia - Blessing of Light Celes - Indomitable Blade I realize some of this stuff seems incredibly dated but I can definitely go nuts on a few banners. Some realm synergy's are really poor, FF4 and FF12 I think is where I lack the most.
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Jul 10, 2018 21:34
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:What FR said about physical holy USBs being limited to three users is also true. I guess Ramza can join them as a fourth soon. Unfortunately it’s not even limited to holy. How many users have good physical ice usbs? Squall, Laguna? Laguna is ideally your chain holder too. Physical water is strong as hell but it’s just bartz, teedus and the ninjas. Physical earth? Magic earth, water, wind, holy? Magic ice is just Rinoa and Ysayle for now too. Meanwhile at DeNA headquarters another fire USB is being made. On a banner with a new dark mage USB that no one asked for. I guess, maybe I'm just bitching because my only holy USB is Basch, but something just feels lopsided for holy. I think part of it is that there's literally only one ability school for physical holy damage, whereas all the other elements have at least two. And there are plenty of characters that can do multiple elements effectively, like Butz or Vivi. The closest you get to that for holy is Delita, but he's built specifically for spellblade abilities.
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Jul 10, 2018 21:53
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There really should be some holy samurais.
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Jul 10, 2018 22:02
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Avalerion posted:There really should be some holy samurais. They could have went that route with Ramza when they gave him holy attacks. Or sneak holy into multi-elemental samurai kits. While I'm wishing, I'd like dark and fire based witch spells.
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Jul 10, 2018 22:06
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:How many users have good physical ice usbs? Squall, Laguna? Squall, Laguna, Noel, Ayame, Firion (BUSB), Snow (Ice Radiant), Celes, Umaro, Sora. quote:Physical water is strong as hell but it’s just bartz, teedus and the ninjas. Bartz, Tidus, Yuffie, Edge, Kimahri (Water Radiant), Rikku, Paine. quote:Physical earth? Ingus, Yang, Galuf, Bartz, Kelger, Dorgann, Leo, Tifa, Thancred, Gladiolus, Cinque. After this month, Ursula. quote:Magic earth, water, wind, holy? Earth: Maria, Emperor, Onion Knight, Rydia, Red XIII (Earth Radiant), Rinoa, Enna Kros. Water: Onion Knight, Rydia, Strago (Water Radiant), Lulu. This is the only really light group. Wind: not needed yet. That magicite isn't coming out until August in Japan. There's still Onion Knight, Barbariccia, Fujin, Ultimecia (upcoming), Alphinaud. Holy: not needed yet. That magicite isn't coming out until September or October in Japan. There's still Minwu, Arc, Yuna, Hope, Cid Raines (with BSB), Rem, Tama (Holy Radiant). quote:Magic ice is just Rinoa and Ysayle for now too. Rinoa, Edea, Lulu, Serah, Ysayle, Seven, Reynn. There's also quite a number of off-element characters who still work perfectly well, like Vivi and Palom. Vivi is in my Belias (5 star Fire Magicite) team, for crying out loud. You are greatly underestimating the variety of options which will be available to you. Zurai fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Jul 10, 2018 |
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Jul 10, 2018 22:51
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Manged to finish off all the Torments, but obviously not the CMs as I have about 12 people Lv99 in total. Still, reasonably happy.
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Jul 10, 2018 23:32
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MarquiseMindfang posted:Manged to finish off all the Torments, but obviously not the CMs as I have about 12 people Lv99 in total. Still, reasonably happy. argh I'm stuck on a few of them FF6 jumpstart I just keep getting the boss to like 10-15% health and then the little idiots suicide, but I feel like if i bother with killing them I'm just going to die a lot sooner since they have so much loving HP, also haven't beaten 7 yet I don't think? Whatever one has the lich + 2 flames.
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Jul 10, 2018 23:39
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valigarmanda is real useful on hidon, just a few casts can take a big chunk out of the erebuses
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Jul 10, 2018 23:45
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Prav posted:valigarmanda is real useful on hidon, just a few casts can take a big chunk out of the erebuses hmm guess I should go get that, I've finished probably half the nightmares so far, that's probably the only useful one that I haven't done yet.
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Jul 10, 2018 23:51
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MarquiseMindfang posted:but obviously not the CMs as I have about 12 people Lv99 in total You can probably do some of them with the time that's left. My FF1 D200 CM team was lv99 Warrior of Light and level 65 everybody else. Sarah came without any SBs but her default. For the first four rounds, AoE black magic was my best bud. Many of my D300 CM teams had a couple lv80s or lower. If you can't beat them with three realm characters, you can still get motes with just one or two. It can be done!
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Jul 11, 2018 00:00
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I do like that they are having more characters be in different elements. Being Swiss Army Knives of the elements is pretty cool aside being solely specialized in 1, even if that specialization is concentrated death in a can.
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Jul 11, 2018 00:28
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Zurai posted:There's also quite a number of off-element characters who still work perfectly well, like Vivi and Palom. Vivi is in my Belias (5 star Fire Magicite) team, for crying out loud. am i misunderstanding something or do i not know about Belias because Vivi is absolutely not off-element for fire
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rabidsquid posted:am i misunderstanding something or do i not know about Belias because Vivi is absolutely not off-element for fire He's fire element so he would be weak to water. I'm presuming he gets Vivi to trance then spams Vortex.
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