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GoldenNugget posted:I like noodler's bulletproof but I'm finding it a bit too wet. I also don't always have the choice of paper I would like to write on. Is heart of darkness good? What are other good quick drying black inks? I guess it can be whatever shade of black as long as it's black. You can try diluting your Noodler's 2:1 with water, distilled preferably. It'll increase the surface tension and make the ink less "wet".
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Kessel posted:Best behaved Noodler's black is Borealis, probably. Seconding Noodler's Borealis Black. It's a quick-drying ink and easily the blackest black I've seen. It's my workhorse ink, mostly because I'm too lazy to swap inks. E: Are Diamine inks generally well behaved? All this inkchat is making me want to buy a bunch of samples to play around with... E2: WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PRETTY DARK BLUE INKS Solumin fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Mar 4, 2015 |
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Mar 4, 2015 17:08
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atholbrose posted:I have to be the voice of dissent: Noodler's 54th Massachusetts is a problematic ink: smelly, inconsistent flow-wise and prone to drying in nibs. It's too bad because I really like the color. (I also wouldn't say that it leans towards black as much as grey.) I have had 54th in an eyed ripper preppy since Goulet was giving them away, I only use it to write checks once a month or less, and I've never even had a hard start from it. I don't have to lick the nib or anything first either, just uncap and write. YMMV, of course, but it has always been my best-behaved combo. GoldenNugget posted:I like noodler's bulletproof but I'm finding it a bit too wet. I also don't always have the choice of paper I would like to write on. Is heart of darkness good? What are other good quick drying black inks? I guess it can be whatever shade of black as long as it's black. I have Heart of Darkness in another eyedropper preppy, and I used it a lot when doing chart notes. I never really had problems with it. It's a very nice, very dark, very permanent ink.
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Mar 4, 2015 17:43
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Solumin posted:E2: WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PRETTY DARK BLUE INKS This is how it begins. First you get some pretty inks, then you need some new pens to use those inks, then some accessories, then some more inks... 
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Mar 4, 2015 18:41
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milpreve posted:I have had 54th in an eyed ripper preppy since Goulet was giving them away, I only use it to write checks once a month or less, and I've never even had a hard start from it. I don't have to lick the nib or anything first either, just uncap and write. YMMV, of course, but it has always been my best-behaved combo. Solumin posted:E: Are Diamine inks generally well behaved? All this inkchat is making me want to buy a bunch of samples to play around with... And there are so many pretty dark blues so that those of us who rarely if ever use bright inks have enough variety in our lives.
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Mar 4, 2015 19:28
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Mikl posted:This is how it begins. First you get some pretty inks, then you need some new pens to use those inks, then some accessories, then some more inks... My poor wallet  Actually, I guess it's not that bad... Pilot Metros are cheap enough that you can pick up a couple to play around with, and the Goulet ink samples let you try different inks without spending too much. atholbrose posted:I have only ever had problems with one Diamine ink -- Green-Black just seems weird, flow-wise. Otherwise, Diamine has been very nice., and is definitely the ink we have the most of in the house. (Well, I mean, look how many colors there are!) I love dark, bold colors, but I've only used Noodler's Borealis Black. Maybe I'll pick out a nice blue, or blue-black... or green... or purple. The only thing I could wish for is a good, permanent dark red -- a burgundy. But even Noodler only offers bright bulletproof reds.
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I'm getting the pen itch again. I have a demonstrator Konrad that I use to try out new inks and for anything that's a little exotic since it's the easiest thing I have to dismantle and clean. I stained it pretty bad trying out some highlighter ink though, so I'm trying to decide if I should just get another one or if there would be something else in that ~$20 range that would be better. I don't like huge pens so I don't want anything larger than the Konrad, it needs to take #6 nibs because I already have 3 of them, and I'm going to put stuff like Stormy Grey and Rouge Hematite in it so being easy to dismantle is required. My only major issue with the Konrad is that it is my worst pen for drying out. If I leave ink in it, it's pretty much bone dry after a week or so and that's really annoying. Using it is pretty much a race against evaporation so I only ink it when I'm planning to write with it daily, and that's the main reason I hesitate to get another one.
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Mar 4, 2015 20:11
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I don't think I saw this mentioned in the thread so far. The original formulation of Noodler's Black Swan in Australian Roses has returned! I've never used it, but I remember it is/was a beloved color. I've added a sample to quickly-growing wishlist.
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Solumin posted:I don't think I saw this mentioned in the thread so far. The original formulation of Noodler's Black Swan in Australian Roses has returned!
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Everything Burrito posted:I'm getting the pen itch again. I have a demonstrator Konrad that I use to try out new inks and for anything that's a little exotic since it's the easiest thing I have to dismantle and clean. I stained it pretty bad trying out some highlighter ink though, so I'm trying to decide if I should just get another one or if there would be something else in that ~$20 range that would be better. I don't like huge pens so I don't want anything larger than the Konrad, it needs to take #6 nibs because I already have 3 of them, and I'm going to put stuff like Stormy Grey and Rouge Hematite in it so being easy to dismantle is required. My only major issue with the Konrad is that it is my worst pen for drying out. If I leave ink in it, it's pretty much bone dry after a week or so and that's really annoying. Using it is pretty much a race against evaporation so I only ink it when I'm planning to write with it daily, and that's the main reason I hesitate to get another one. I've been much happier than I expected with my Jinhao x750. It was <$10, takes #6 nibs, has a lovely converter but accepts any standard international converter. All the bits are pressure fit, so it's easy to pop the nib and feed out to clean them thoroughly. It's a bit bigger than the Konrad, almost exactly the same size as my Ahab; I had bought it to replace the Ahab I was using for all of my hard to clean inks that you mentioned. It is significantly heavier than a Konrad, being a metal body. It also has a knock off of Platinum's slip n' seal cap that they use in the Preppy and the 3776 so it doesn't dry out at all. I'd be happier with an ebonite feed than the plastic one that it has, but for a cheap Chinese frankenpen it's hard to feel too bad about it.
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Mar 5, 2015 02:58
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All of that sounds good except the big and heavy part. I have a hard time writing with my copper Hero 395 very long because of the weight and it is a fairly small pen so I don't think I could use something that big with a metal body.
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Mar 5, 2015 04:06
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A couple of other things to consider too, there's the Super 5 at $28. Nib is comparable in size to Metropolitan nib, but they don't interchange with Pilot pens. It's a unique untipped .5mm calligraphy stub, and a lot of fun to write with. Nib and feed are pressure fit and easy to clean, section is metal but the barrell and cap are plastic, overall almost the same dimensions as my Metro. Next, you could just get a Plumix ($9) for the italic nib, which is interchangeable on the Metro. If you use the squeeze converters you can just rinse them and then swab them out with a Q-tip, and Metro nibs and feeds are pressure fit for easy cleaning.
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Mar 5, 2015 06:37
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Solumin posted:The only thing I could wish for is a good, permanent dark red -- a burgundy. But even Noodler only offers bright bulletproof reds. Noodler's has a black red that is nice. Looks kind of like dark blood (making messy fills look like a murder scene).
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Mar 5, 2015 15:25
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Solumin posted:I don't think I saw this mentioned in the thread so far. The original formulation of Noodler's Black Swan in Australian Roses has returned! YESSSSSSSSS MY DAY TO DAY WORKHORSE HAS RETURNED
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Mar 5, 2015 15:43
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rio posted:Noodler's has a black red that is nice. Looks kind of like dark blood (making messy fills look like a murder scene). I forgot about that one. Isn't it literally Noodler's Black + Noodler's Red? And since Noodler's Red isn't bulletproof but Noodler's Black is, the Red-Black just turns into regular Black if it gets wet? Eh, I'll throw a sample in and try it out. I mostly want it for grading papers, and I'm not doing that any time soon.
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Hmmmm...I can get a used TWSBI Classic from isellpens for $35 (or $40 for a stub). Won't take my spare #6 nibs and is a little more than I wanted to pay but that seems like a good price and would mean not gambling on trying to make another Noodler's pen work. I'm halfway considering trying out the Ahab though because I forgot you can make them into eyedroppers and 6ml of Stormy Grey sloshing around in a big fat clear pen is kind of appealing (provided it didn't end up everywhere lol). I do really want either a clear ink window or a full-on demonstrator because if I'm using a fun ink I want to see it and that's the purpose of my Konrad currently which is why the staining is a bummer. I'm going to try a stronger ammonia soak before I completely give up on it though. RE: Plumix/Super 5 - if that suggestion was for me I'm kinda looking for something to use these #6 nibs in specifically but hadn't looked at the Super 5 before, that's pretty neat. I do need to get another Plumix though because I dropped my Metro point down and pretty much destroyed the last one and having to use the default M nib is killing my soul a bit.
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e: The other pen suggestions were for you, just as alternatives. I've got a clear Ahab that lost its converter and has had its o-ring replaced with a standard #60 o-ring. The o-ring is thicker than what it comes with, so the cap takes a little bit more oomph to get on. It's got a standard Noodler's flex nib in it right now. If you want it you can have it, I'm not a big fan of eyedroppers anyway. My pen from fountain pen revolution came!  I ordered a spare flex nib and feed, and they sent it by sticking it in a Camlin 21r. Which was really nice of them! TWSBI mini for size comparison in there. NeurosisHead fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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Mar 5, 2015 18:18
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NeurosisHead posted:A couple of other things to consider too, there's the Super 5 at $28. Nib is comparable in size to Metropolitan nib, but they don't interchange with Pilot pens. It's a unique untipped .5mm calligraphy stub, and a lot of fun to write with. Nib and feed are pressure fit and easy to clean, section is metal but the barrell and cap are plastic, overall almost the same dimensions as my Metro. Oh sweet, I really love italic nibs and a 0.5 nib would rock. Anyone have any suggestions for thin italic nibs I could throw into a TWSBI 580 or 700? The stock 1.1 is way too thick and, while they write okay on Rhodia/Clairefontaine paper, grinding them down has resulted in scratchy nibs on most surfaces.
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kim jong-illin posted:Oh sweet, I really love italic nibs and a 0.5 nib would rock. I suggest the Pilot 78G as IIRC it's .7 mm or finer CI stock nib under B. Small stubs and CI are uncommon as they show less line variation which is prefered for calligraphy. The Pilot Parallel has a .5 italic nib too.
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Mar 5, 2015 19:44
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NeurosisHead posted:I've got a clear Ahab that lost its converter and has had its o-ring replaced with a standard #60 o-ring. The o-ring is thicker than what it comes with, so the cap takes a little bit more oomph to get on. It's got a standard Noodler's flex nib in it right now. If you want it you can have it, I'm not a big fan of eyedroppers anyway. That would be pretty awesome actually, I am definitely interested if you want to unload it.
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Everything Burrito posted:That would be pretty awesome actually, I am definitely interested if you want to unload it. Sure thing. Email me at [REDACTED] with your address and I'll get it in the mail probably this Saturday. NeurosisHead fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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Mar 5, 2015 20:23
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NeurosisHead posted:Sure thing. Email me at **** with your address and I'll get it in the mail probably this Saturday. Email sent if you want to remove that. Thanks!
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Zero Gravitas posted:Can I join the Diamine love train? Recently I rediscovered my fountain pens and I've been using them just as heavily as I ever did, including the same Parker Vector that I've been using for so long its nib is polished to the point its like writing with a brush. Some of my inks didnt survive so I got some Diamine Asa Blue thats been turning out to be a fantastic shade and I can heartily recommend it. Otherwise to add to the previous red ink discussion, it might just be because my bottle is something like five years old now, but my red parker quink is bright red liquid drying to a nice dark shade. You might like some of the older Esterbrooks if you like that art deco styling.
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I'm looking for recommendations for a new pen with a fine nib. I'm not quite ready to spend $150+ on a writing implement, but I'm wanting something beyond entry level. While I like the feel and durability of the Lamy Safari and Al Star, even the EF nib is a bit too wide for my tastes. I've been writing with the Hero 9296 with a 0.38mm nib for a month or so and quite like it, even though it can be slightly scratchy. Can anybody make any suggestions? I'm open to experimentation.
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Soylent Yellow posted:I'm looking for recommendations for a new pen with a fine nib. I'm not quite ready to spend $150+ on a writing implement, but I'm wanting something beyond entry level. While I like the feel and durability of the Lamy Safari and Al Star, even the EF nib is a bit too wide for my tastes. I've been writing with the Hero 9296 with a 0.38mm nib for a month or so and quite like it, even though it can be slightly scratchy. Can anybody make any suggestions? I'm open to experimentation. This was posted a while back in the thread, and it's quite useful: http://www.nibs.com/TippingSizespage.htm  You could get a Metro with an F nib, which is slightly finer than the nib you're currently using (.35 mm versus .38 mm). Or, if you want to go finer, you can get a Pilot Penmanship which has a .2 mm EF nib, and swap that into a Metro or a Prera (since the Penmanship sucks, except for the nib).
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I don't see any TWSBI on the chart, but the VAC-700 I got in EF is VERY fine. I don't have much to compare it to, but it's very fine, very smooth, writes nice and holds a poo poo ton of ink.
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rigeek posted:I don't see any TWSBI on the chart, but the VAC-700 I got in EF is VERY fine. I don't have much to compare it to, but it's very fine, very smooth, writes nice and holds a poo poo ton of ink. Depending on when you bought it, a twsbi will have a bock or jowo nib.
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Mikl posted:You could get a Metro with an F nib, which is slightly finer than the nib you're currently using (.35 mm versus .38 mm). Or, if you want to go finer, you can get a Pilot Penmanship which has a .2 mm EF nib, and swap that into a Metro or a Prera (since the Penmanship sucks, except for the nib). I have a Metro with a F nib on the way, as well as a Penmanship with an EF to cannibalise. I'll try it with the F nib first, then switch it out if I feel the need for something I can perform brain surgery with.
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Things I learned today: The cap on a bottle of Faber-Castell is actually two parts, a silver cap piece that's secured to the actual rubber cap with glue. So if you tighten the cap down like a gorilla (guilty!) you can actually wrench the veneer piece off trying to open it and wind up feeling extremely stupid.
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Kerbtree posted:Depending on when you bought it, a twsbi will have a bock or jowo nib. Bought it from Goulet about a month ago.
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rigeek posted:Bought it from Goulet about a month ago. They swapped over to jowo over a year ago.
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I don't really need more pens than I have -- I have around half a dozen, I write with them daily but just keep one inked at a time -- but I'm eyeing some low-end pens and thinking about picking them up. I'm not particularly demanding of my pens, but I want them to 1. start easily, 2. have converters, and 3. not leak. A few questions:
Right now I have a Lamy Vista, Pilot Prera, Pilot Cavalier, Nemosine Fission*, and Waterford Kilbarry Edge. * I'm so impressed by this pen. It's pretty cheap and it writes so well.
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guppy posted:I don't really need more pens than I have -- I have around half a dozen, I write with them daily but just keep one inked at a time -- but I'm eyeing some low-end pens and thinking about picking them up. I'm not particularly demanding of my pens, but I want them to 1. start easily, 2. have converters, and 3. not leak. A few questions: Ohto pens are awesome, I have three and they all write well. Ohto pens use international standard converters so your Nemosine should work fine. I'd suggest the Dude over the F-Lapa, it's better made and extremely well balanced. You could also look at the Ohto Rook, Ohto Tasche or Kaweco Sport if you to try a smaller pen. grack fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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guppy posted:I don't really need more pens than I have -- I have around half a dozen, I write with them daily but just keep one inked at a time -- but I'm eyeing some low-end pens and thinking about picking them up. I'm not particularly demanding of my pens, but I want them to 1. start easily, 2. have converters, and 3. not leak. A few questions: I was not impressed at all with my Ohto Rook -- pretty much a waste of the money, as it wouldn't feed ink correctly. This keeps me from wanting to try another. The Plaisir uses the same nib and feed as the Preppy, and I am not a big fan of the Preppy. The Clear Candy is a $16 nib in a $50 plastic body. The nib writes great, but the pen is so light it feels like it might float away. I'm not super-bothered by it, but on the other hand, I haven't had mine inked for months. Other things to look at: As the thread title says, a Pilot Metropolitan. A nice, solid-feeling pen with a wonderful nib, and it comes with a converter. $2 less than the Clear Candy. I'm a bit surprised you don't have one and aren't considering it. Likewise, the Pilot Kakuno is a very interesting pen, and I really like the color schemes and smiling nibs, but I understand how that's not for everyone, and they don't come with converters. Kaweco Sports are nice little pens, tiny when capped, strong enough to be a pocket pen (unless you get one of the scratchable metal finishes that isn't meant to be scratched), and write very pleasantly. There is a converter but the amount of ink it holds is a bit of a joke. It's a little out of your price range at, like, $42, but the Platinum Balance/Cool (check Pen Chalet or Goulet) is a very sweet little pen.
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atholbrose posted:I was not impressed at all with my Ohto Rook -- pretty much a waste of the money, as it wouldn't feed ink correctly. This keeps me from wanting to try another. The Plaisir uses the same nib and feed as the Preppy, and I am not a big fan of the Preppy. Did you give it a clear out before starting out? I've had plenty of pens that've been right little swines until they've been cleaned.
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Kerbtree posted:Did you give it a clear out before starting out? I've had plenty of pens that've been right little swines until they've been cleaned. Yep. I'm going to try one more time, complete flush, inked with a different cart, and then declare it a loss.
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I got an ahab in the mail yesterday, along with a bunch of ink samples, some rhodia books, and a filofax. It's pretty awesome so far, and I like that it came with a non flex nib as a backup. Now to not buy any more pens for a little while...
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