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wedgekree posted:How can 350,000 men and a thousand guns have an AFV of 0? Only 3200 were attacking, and presumably they did so by walking on foot out to the edge of the suburbs (no vehicles) and shouting insults while the Japanese siege shot back at them with actual bullets and mortars from behind "rough terrain," whatever that means specifically.
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wedgekree posted:How can 350,000 men and a thousand guns have an AFV of 0? Because WITP and lovely ground combat modelling that relies on "adjusted" AV to determine what happens. Defensive bonuses are too strong, too. AFVs stands for Armoured Fighting Vehicle and does not refer to the Assault Value Also, Grey, please stop sending bombers without air cover. You're dooming 4+ men per bomber lost, men who have families. You monster!
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wedgekree posted:How can 350,000 men and a thousand guns have an AFV of 0? AFV's are Armored Fighting Vehicles, you're thinking of just AV (Assault Value). They can still get to zero adjusted AV after accounting for supplies, training, morale, terrain, etc. in this stupid ground combat model.
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Just checked the manual. There's nothing in the books about refloating ships. As for capturing ships... quote:9.3.2 Ships Caught in Captured Ports
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The troops at Chungking haven't actually had any guns or ammo for months. Mao has just press-ganged everyone in the city and armed them with whatever bricks the Japanese shelling has knocked loose.
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Grey Hunter posted:
Good thing that's where you sent those 700,000 or so troops, right 
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Crazycryodude posted:AFV's are Armored Fighting Vehicles, you're thinking of just AV (Assault Value). They can still get to zero adjusted AV after accounting for supplies, training, morale, terrain, etc. in this stupid ground combat model. Also guns don't have any attack value on their own, they can only reduce combat effectiveness of enemies, which doesn't seem to work most of the time, as far as I can tell.
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Bombardment attacks have AV values don't they?
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   We torpedo another sub!   We make another tanker burn.  This on the other hand is not a good use of military resources.   We see a rare bit of air combat here.   We're doing a number on their subs – with our own subs!  He he he.
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The us navy is ... Sub standard. 
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17 December 1942 Italian destroyer Aviere, sunk by British submarine Splendid north of Bizerte. British destroyer Firedrake, sunk by U-211 in the mid-Atlantic.
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R.I.P. Haier
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This seems a disproportionate amount of sub on sub warfare!
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Grumio posted:R.I.P. Haier The Chinese army is never going to be able to replace its manpower losses now.
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ZiegeDame posted:The troops at Chungking haven't actually had any guns or ammo for months. Mao has just press-ganged everyone in the city and armed them with whatever bricks the Japanese shelling has knocked loose. If Mao is leading the troops in the Kuomintang's capital, that might explain why they're doing so badly.
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Huh, two subs sunk around Pearl. The USN seems to be having some ASW issues.
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Your subs have been better at ASW in the last few days than your destroyers have in the entire war.
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  We bring down another B-17 – and you can see the ship with the air HQ is nearly here!   I start this battle up again.  We also hammer the former defenders of Nanning.  A dull day in the air, but we did some damage in China. Grey Hunter fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Dec 19, 2016 |
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Wow, BB's! You hae anything you can send after the Americans or nothing in range or that's up to being dispatched that can hit them before they depart?
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Oh hey my Lucky Ship finally showed up.
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Grey Hunter posted:
drat boat people!
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You missed the 18th
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   A Naval bombardment by rare American battleships?  Their fighter support comes out again.  Then the Americans unload another small force....  Poor buggers. Makes my attacks look competent!  The air HQ has reached Ndeni!
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Thank you!
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Thank you! No prob, just screwing up while recovering from another child induced round of sickness.
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Grey Hunter posted:No prob, just screwing up while recovering from another child induced round of sickness. At least that sort of screw-up doesn't involved ill-advised attacks! 
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18 December 1942 Japanese cruiser Tenryu, torpedoed near Madang by US submarine Albacore. British destroyer Partridge, torpedoed near Oran by U-565. 19 December 1942 British corvette Snapdragon, sunk near Benghazi by German aircraft.
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  The Allies throw more victims ashore at Luganville.  Three torps – that may be enough to sink here, but she is close to Pearl.  There is another futile attack at Chunking.  Well, that was a pretty good day – I do remember to order my Luganville men to attack.  This is probably a good bet.
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Potential  HerraS
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The San Diego got pasted earlier in that carrier battle, and ended up detached while the other CLAA stuck with the carriers. Chances are she was limping home, so three torpedoes is almost certainly a sinking.
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The subs have really been carrying their weight recently.
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A CLAA is a nice kill. That's less murderfire your planes will face later!
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Saw the new Star Wars and the imperial navy is pretty much the ijn. Does that make the Tokyo bay fortress the Death Star?
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Ikasuhito posted:The subs have really been carrying their weight recently. In the grey-verse the new anti-sub doctrine will be 'only a sub can handle a sub'. In fact the post Grey world would probably be switching to battleship and sub fleets as those carrier things are clearly more hassle then they are worth!
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Ron Jeremy posted:Saw the new Star Wars and the imperial navy is pretty much the ijn. Does that make the Tokyo bay fortress the Death Star? On the other side... A-Wing p38 B-Wing p47 X-Wing Y-Wing Lancaster U-Wing seems to be some flavor of amphibious assault vehicle? Ardeem fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Dec 21, 2016 |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_San_Diego_(CL-53)quote:The second USS San Diego (CL-53) was an Atlanta-class light cruiser of the United States Navy, commissioned just after the US entry into World War II, and active throughout the Pacific theater. Armed with 16 5 in (127 mm)/38 cal DP anti-aircraft guns and 16 Bofors 40 mm AA guns, the Atlanta-class cruisers had the heaviest anti-aircraft broadside of any warship of World War II. Solid kill.
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Dick Bong flying a P-38 down the Tokyo Bay Fortress's skylight while Tojo is on his six in a Zero and the Emperor flings writhing tentacles of Force at the Lightning's gaping air intakes. I would commission a painting of this.
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aphid_licker posted:Dick Bong flying a P-38 down the Tokyo Bay Fortress's skylight while Tojo is on his six in a Zero and the Emperor flings writhing tentacles of Force at the Lightning's gaping air intakes. I would commission a painting of this. 
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Wait it was the thermal exhaust port so clearly it should be the latrine drain he's flying up.
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Ardeem posted:On the other side... I thought the X-Wings were always supposed to be Corsairs. Because the TIEs have always been Zeroes. Always. Remember Lucas really liked WWII movies, even in the originals.
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