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Flesh Forge posted:A gem from the comments I kinda like this metagame of wording insulting comments cleverly enough to get past the screening.
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Wait, does the author police the comments and delete anything negative? 
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Wrist Watch posted:Wait, does the author police the comments and delete anything negative? The artist did, and apparently not anymore
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Yeah they gave up deleting criticism pretty recently. Doesn't mean they listen to any of it but at least they don't erase it all 
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Flesh Forge posted:Yeah they gave up deleting criticism pretty recently. Doesn't mean they listen to any of it but at least they don't erase it all Presumably they couldn't keep up with the sheer flood of criticism during the max bullshit and just gave up on the comments section all together.
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Cat Mattress posted:woah, clevy woah-oh, spack clevin, bam-a-lam
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blushing virgin clevin
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i will forgive this comic for everything if the next page has clevin stabbed in the throat by an invisible assailant and we find out he had a dark secret
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Dec 1, 2016 23:19
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"sometimes the bad guy....... is clevin"
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AND THEN IN THE NEXT PANEL SHE RIPS HIS ARM OFF AND DEVOURS HIS TENDER MANFLESH 
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I read through it again, a while back, and something I noticed that whole long section where Patrick was telling her about how horrible the world is and how it's all full of evil, and she blew up at him, and then, at the end, he offered her a Loony Toons mug? http://strongfemaleprotagonist.com/issue-3/page-47-2/ Could that be.... that, with the Loony Toons mug, he was trying to tell her "look, the only reason I've been telling you all this poo poo was specifically to make you angry, there's something deeper going on, why do you think I'm doing this massive attempt at time travel" ?
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Dec 2, 2016 15:15
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I mean it seems obvious, but the comic has a bad habit of surprising us by taking the most boring option over the more obvious one.
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Dec 2, 2016 17:34
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Parahexavoctal posted:I read through it again, a while back, and something I noticed The mug was a call-back to one time they watched Looney Tunes together. It was an attempt by an autistic mind-reader to show some humanity.
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Dec 2, 2016 17:46
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Considering she also flipped between pages from "OK you're just spewing crap to make me angry" to "I'm going to take all of that at face value to make a barely coherent claim about your powers" I'm not even sure the authors still know what the intentions in any action of that scene were.
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Dec 2, 2016 18:21
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Parahexavoctal posted:I read through it again, a while back, and something I noticed Okay I read a bit further from that page and uh... This is the comic people were saying used to be better? Why is anyone surprised she forced a dude to do poo poo against his will? In the pages after that link she purposely puts doubts in her friend's head after she was more or less at peace with effectively getting tortured forever, yells at her friend's friend when he tells her to gently caress off, threatens to kill the friend's friend for calling her out, kills a dude for hurting her apparently immortal friend, then threatens to kill a group of peaceful protesters before having to get talked out of it by her half dead friend with third degree burns over her entire body. It would have been weirder if she didn't force that other dude to do whatever she wanted. She's a loving psychopath.
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Wrist Watch posted:Okay I read a bit further from that page and uh... On top of which, she was totally fine and cool with any and all shady nonsense Patrick was up to, until he pissed her off. Although killing the guy with the flamethrower is hard to take issue with.
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Wrist Watch posted:Okay I read a bit further from that page and uh... Well not that part, no, that whole 10 pages or so of textwall was real bad.
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I thought that part was still ok, because at that point I was still believing that the comic might actually consider what happens when Superman is actually a moody disillusioned youth with tons of power that they can't actually apply to the problems they want to solve. Yea, Alison is messed up, but that's obvious from early on in the comic and it could have been an interesting premise. What makes the comic bad isn't that Alison does all that poo poo, but that nothing happens at all. It's not just that no one tries to arrest her or bring her to justice for it, it's that no one even says 'Hey, uh, so what about those people you were going to crush with a car?' or even stops hanging out with her because of her fits of violence.
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Atmus posted:Although killing the guy with the flamethrower is hard to take issue with. It doesn't stand out as well as the other more visible things, but acting as judge, jury, and executioner just because she felt like it in the heat of the moment is still kind of a big loving deal. Ashcans posted:I thought that part was still ok, because at that point I was still believing that the comic might actually consider what happens when Superman is actually a moody disillusioned youth with tons of power that they can't actually apply to the problems they want to solve. Yea, Alison is messed up, but that's obvious from early on in the comic and it could have been an interesting premise. What makes the comic bad isn't that Alison does all that poo poo, but that nothing happens at all. It's not just that no one tries to arrest her or bring her to justice for it, it's that no one even says 'Hey, uh, so what about those people you were going to crush with a car?' or even stops hanging out with her because of her fits of violence. Yeah, that's what I was surprised about. I guess when I was reading posts about how the comic used to be better I didn't realize they meant the premise, not the execution.
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Wrist Watch posted:It doesn't stand out as well as the other more visible things, but acting as judge, jury, and executioner just because she felt like it in the heat of the moment is still kind of a big loving deal. You're pretty much allowed to kill people that are actively trying to kill other people though. Even in California. The whole arson bit gives a +10 bonus to Affirmative Defense. I am a lawyer and that's how that works. You could argue that a rational invincible superhero should have taken him down non-violently, but that's not who we have here. Ashcans posted:it's that no one even says 'Hey, uh, so what about those people you were going to crush with a car?' or even stops hanging out with her because of her fits of violence. Violet eventually did. That's what this comic has become. Violet is the level headed one acting appropriately. Atmus fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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Dec 2, 2016 20:43
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Atmus posted:Violet eventually did. Wait who? What?
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Wrist Watch posted:Okay I read a bit further from that page and uh... All of this was unironically good. And if you think killing the man who lit your friend and a room full of doctors on fire and then yelling at the morons slandering her sacrifice makes you a psychopath you're a god drat moron.
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I would rather read a comic about the flamethrower guy. He was cool
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Wrist Watch posted:It doesn't stand out as well as the other more visible things, but acting as judge, jury, and executioner just because she felt like it in the heat of the moment is still kind of a big loving deal. I can understand killing someone in the heat of the moment, especially in such a situation. What she should have done afterwards, however, was to turn herself in at the nearest police station and face the consequences. To be fair, it would have probably been ruled that she acted to protect someone (obligatory disclaimer: I am not a lawyer) but it would have at least shown she was willing to face the consequences of her actions.
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Mikl posted:in the heat of the moment
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Mikl posted:I can understand killing someone in the heat of the moment, especially in such a situation. What she should have done afterwards, however, was to turn herself in at the nearest police station and face the consequences. To be fair, it would have probably been ruled that she acted to protect someone (obligatory disclaimer: I am not a lawyer) but it would have at least shown she was willing to face the consequences of her actions. Just like the rapist jock whose throat was slit when legal system failed, the same should happen to Alisom.
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Patrick Spens posted:All of this was unironically good. And if you think killing the man who lit your friend and a room full of doctors on fire and then yelling at the morons slandering her sacrifice makes you a psychopath you're a god drat moron. Dang, you got me. I'm a moron for including a character killing someone in the midst of listing a bunch of irrational things they did in the span of like, ten minutes. Stopping a terrorist is good, so there's nothing wrong with throwing a dude the length of a football field through a hospital into a crowd of protestors, making it clear that none of them have the power to stop you, and throwing a truck around like a child because they're not listening to you because you just killed a man while screaming that you could kill all of them if you felt like it. This is extremely cool, and good. You are a normal, well adjusted person.
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Paladinus posted:The mug was a call-back to one time they watched Looney Tunes together. It was an attempt by an autistic mind-reader to show some humanity. I know it was a callback to the scene I linked. I'm suggesting that perhaps it was intended to be somewhat more than that. When they watched Loony Toons together, he commented about how Bugs can talk to Daffy in such a way that Daffy gets enraged, and none of it is serious. Then he meets with her to talk about something super important. She knows that he thinks that there's a terrible evil conspiracy going on to kill everyone who could actually use their superpowers to change the world in a positive way. She sees that he's undertaking this big project to find out if time travel is possible. She knows that he knows that she's got a crush on him. Then he deliberately says a bunch of stuff to make her really upset. Then he tries to offer her a Loony Toons mug. Whatever his intentions with offering her the mug, they failed miserably, yes. But could he have been planning something deeper than just "I'll show her the Loony Toons mug, as a callback to that time we watched a cartoon" ?
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I don't think that that's the case.
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Wrist Watch posted:Okay I read a bit further from that page and uh... Back then we assumed the comic was going to have some kind of payoff. Then it took a turn into murder-rapists town. Especially using super powers for selfish and legally dubious things. In fact, being a super villain is probably just the best thing you should do from now on.
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Wrist Watch posted:Dang, you got me. I'm a moron for including a character killing someone in the midst of listing a bunch of irrational things they did in the span of like, ten minutes. Yeah, I should have written that better. I didn't mean that everything she did was the the right thing to do, I meant that it made for a good story. quote:Stopping a terrorist is good, so there's nothing wrong with throwing a dude the length of a football field through a hospital into a crowd of protestors, making it clear that none of them have the power to stop you, and throwing a truck around like a child because they're not listening to you because you just killed a man while screaming that you could kill all of them if you felt like it. This is extremely cool, and good. You are a normal, well adjusted person. There's lots wrong with what she did, but nothing in her behaviour was psychopathic. She is upset and irrational because someone who she cares about is suffering, psychopaths don't care about people.
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Patrick Spens posted:Yeah, I should have written that better. I didn't mean that everything she did was the the right thing to do, I meant that it made for a good story. Stop being reasonable, I want to keep being mad about webcomics  But yeah, psychopathic was an exaggeration. It's definitely stressed out and fed up to be sure but at the same time...there's definitely something off about a person unable to control themselves like that. It makes for a better story than "everybody talks things out like adults" but not if you never follow it up wth anything and keep going like nothing ever happened. I guess it keeps coming back to the premise being good but the execution being garbage with there being no consequences.
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Wrist Watch posted:Stop being reasonable, I want to keep being mad about webcomics Not...really? The whole situation was hosed top to bottom. She had just, to her knowledge, watched a dear friend engaged in a selfless act be murdered in cold blood alongside a bunch of innocents by a terrorist/zealot. Flipping the gently caress out is not remotely shocking or "off" there. It's an extremely believable action. This comic has unbelievable amounts of real problems I don't know why anyone would feel compelled to go back and create fake imaginary problems. Focus on real issues.
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Killing people is bad.
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Paladinus posted:Killing people is bad. But what if they are bad people?
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