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The Ape of Naples posted:I agree about Patton but he felt just so right as a replacement TV's Frank that I instantly accepted it. In any other role I'd be wary but it just fit so well. Plus he's not a huge name. Sure my mom may recognize him from King of Queens but wouldn't know his name. I knew of Jonah Ray from the Meltdown and various podcast appearances but nothing about him really. Just enough of a comfortable recognizability without bringing some baggage. It it were Scott Aukerman it'd just feel like Scott Aukerman and not Scott Heston. Paul F Tompkins could have done it but it would have totally felt like PFT in space as opposed to this character. Even if that character is very much like what Jonah Ray is really like. I think PFT would be a perfect mad scientist for the show. .....now I want PFT to be in it for the next season if it ever happens. 
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If the internet had been around when MST3K season one first showed up on The Comedy Channel, I wonder how many of those guys would have been known already from comedy podcasts and stuff. Probably just Joel? If he was on late night talk shows and had a SNL guest appearance, he would probably also be all over the comedy podcast circuit. I know that doesn't directly map to today and is a meaningless comparison to make, but its interesting to think that the threshold for "unknown comic" was probably a lot higher in 1989 than it is today. The dude was already on national TV multiple times before MST hit the air, that would make you a somewhat known commodity today for alt comedy nerds at least, because of how much it'd instantly radiate out to all the ancillary media we have now.
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May 22, 2017 20:36
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Egbert Souse posted:The Christmas That Almost Wasn't Just made it through Star Crash. Great episode but my sperg side was squirming uncomfortably the whole time. It's like they'd never actually seen an SF movie but just had the general idea relayed to them by a five year old before they threw one together.
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May 22, 2017 21:01
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WrathOfBlade posted:Carnival Magic was the closest thing they got to a Manos this season. The attempted chimpanzee suicide towards the end really won me over. Yeah, I don't get people saying Cry Wilderness is the legendary episode this go around when THAT exists.
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May 23, 2017 03:01
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Cry Wilderness and Carnival Magic are pretty different movies in tone and pacing in my opinion. They also feature horrible animal abuse and I think the racoon strangling embedded itself in my mind more than the magic dude's staring at animals and talking to them did.
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May 23, 2017 03:05
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Carnival Magic feels vaguely like a more poorly put together Girl in Gold Boot-like until the end, with the weird, disturbing animal suicide thing. Cry Wilderness opens with a film mad scientist pouring together random portions of Spielberg and John Irving in some kind of dizzying cocktail, until Big Foot shows up, flips over the table holding the whole hosed up experiment together, and yells "PAUL, YOUR FATHER IS IN TROUBLE!" and it doesn't stop getting weird from there.
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May 23, 2017 03:12
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Disconnecticus posted:Just made it through Star Crash. Great episode but my sperg side was squirming uncomfortably the whole time. Or you saw Star Wars and Barbarella, like...literally those were the only two movies you've ever seen, and decided to split the difference. But didn't have the skill, talent, or general wherewithal to do it.
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May 23, 2017 03:26
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In my previous life as a film podcaster I got on a ton of PR email lists. Yesterday I got one about MST3K merch. Looks like lots of t-shirts, some cool mugs, and even Funko figures are headed our way this year.
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May 23, 2017 14:32
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So after being sick for a few weeks, I'm getting caught up on the last third of the new season. And I realized some amazing things about the Lost Kingdom movies: The opening scenes from Lost Kingdom I were actually from the first Deathstalker movie (so that's two ties between that movie and Deathstalker), and in Lost Kingdom II the villain with the feather collar is actually the guy who played Captain Spaulding in House of 1000 Corpses.
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May 24, 2017 04:32
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Disconnecticus posted:Just made it through Star Crash. Great episode but my sperg side was squirming uncomfortably the whole time.
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May 24, 2017 06:32
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Finally finished them all. Man, that last batch of movies gets a little dire for me. They're so boring that there's almost not enough quips from the guys to salvage them. But maybe I was just so blown away by Yongary the rest failed for me.
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May 24, 2017 06:38
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Jonah's okay right? Like the spacewalk at the end was after the botched wedding, not in remembrance 
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May 24, 2017 17:01
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May 24, 2017 17:11
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nerdman42 posted:But maybe I was just so blown away by Yongary the rest failed for me. Yongary was the one episode this season that I watched with a big grin plastered on my face. It didn't do anything super spectacular, it just set a high bar early and then stayed there all the way through. Capsule!
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May 24, 2017 17:50
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I finally figured out what's bugging me about Servo in the new season. It's not the voice (Baron is doing great), it's the puppeteering. Specifically, it's one aspect of the puppeteering: Servo should be up a bit higher, with the front edge of his hoverskirt resting on the table, instead of floating behind the table all the time. It feels like he's hiding back there, which is rather out of character for Tom.  That said, this extremely minor quibble is the closest thing I have to a complaint about the new episodes, so I figure they got a whole lot of things very very right. 
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May 24, 2017 18:12
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Yeah Baron's servo is great. I think he's Suave Servo, while Kevin is Fabulous Servo.
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Yeah my only complaint about Baron Servo was that it took me an episode to not mix up him and Jonah as they have somewhat similar voices.
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May 24, 2017 20:31
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Mokinokaro posted:Yeah my only complaint about Baron Servo was that it took me an episode to not mix up him and Jonah as they have somewhat similar voices. They need to pitch down one of the two like half an octave while in the theater. That's my only complaint about the new bots.
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May 24, 2017 21:11
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As a die-hard MST3k fan from way back in the day, I have to say the amount of care they put into the new episodes is huge. I have quibbles like others, but when I think of the old seasons, I realize I have quibbles about them too. Overall, and this is after watching most of the new episodes twice, I am really pleased with this. To say best reboot ever is to clear a really low bar, sadly.
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May 24, 2017 22:06
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We watched Revenge of the Creature last night, and I discovered the density of the riffing in the new show isn't as much greater than the old as I thought. I think the perception comes from the recording method and rushed schedule more than anything else.
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May 24, 2017 22:31
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:We watched Revenge of the Creature last night, and I discovered the density of the riffing in the new show isn't as much greater than the old as I thought. I think the perception comes from the recording method and rushed schedule more than anything else. Reptillicus is honestly like the highest density episode honestly. I think it's just Roiland's writing.
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May 24, 2017 22:32
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Yeah, when I rewatched some old Mike episodes, I think the density of riffing is about the same, just the delivery is different because it's different people.
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May 25, 2017 00:39
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:Reptillicus is honestly like the highest density episode honestly. I think it's just Roiland's writing. Oh yeah, and the fact there's like 15 writers for each episode.
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May 25, 2017 00:53
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One thing I do kinda miss, watching some older episodes, is the little non-joke reactions. Like giving off a little "What?" at a confusing shot, or singing a weird music cue (not making up lyrics, just repeating it), or the occasional incredulous laugh. They felt like genuine reactions, which nicely complemented the scripted riffs. (There's one moment I like, though I can't recall the episode, where Mike starts laughing so hard at something in the movie that it spills over into his actual riff.) Although it was scripted, one moment I did particularly like along similar lines was Jonah's comment about them using actual fire in The Land That Time Forgot. It felt like a real observation someone in the writers' room had, not trying to be funny, just reacting to the movie.
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May 25, 2017 00:58
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I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't think Manos is a top 10 episode. I prefer the rifftrax live version.
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May 25, 2017 03:03
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Lord Hydronium posted:One thing I do kinda miss, watching some older episodes, is the little non-joke reactions. Like giving off a little "What?" at a confusing shot, or singing a weird music cue (not making up lyrics, just repeating it), or the occasional incredulous laugh. They felt like genuine reactions, which nicely complemented the scripted riffs. (There's one moment I like, though I can't recall the episode, where Mike starts laughing so hard at something in the movie that it spills over into his actual riff.) There's also him pointing out the in camera removal of the android head in episodes 3.
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May 25, 2017 03:37
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Chokes McGee posted:Jonah's okay right? Like the spacewalk at the end was after the botched wedding, not in remembrance If you watch the episodes again you'll see him with various parts of the spacesuit during the host segments. It's totally him walking out there.
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May 25, 2017 04:00
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precision posted:I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't think Manos is a top 10 episode. I prefer the rifftrax live version. Nah, I agree. The riffing isn't good enough to offset the horribleness of the movie.
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May 25, 2017 07:39
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Lord Hydronium posted:One thing I do kinda miss, watching some older episodes, is the little non-joke reactions. Like giving off a little "What?" at a confusing shot, or singing a weird music cue (not making up lyrics, just repeating it), or the occasional incredulous laugh. They felt like genuine reactions, which nicely complemented the scripted riffs. (There's one moment I like, though I can't recall the episode, where Mike starts laughing so hard at something in the movie that it spills over into his actual riff.) Yeah likewise. Not sure if it's what you're thinking of, but there's a bit in The Brute Man where Mike gets laughing so hard he doubles over in his chair and you can tell he's struggling to keep it together.
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May 25, 2017 12:24
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precision posted:I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't think Manos is a top 10 episode. I prefer the rifftrax live version. It has never really gelled with me either. The pacing of the movie are terrible and the entire thing makes no sense. The gang have some good jokes but I almost always check out early. I should check out the rifftrax version. Like, I appreciate it as a community thing but man I do not like the episode. To each their own though...
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May 25, 2017 12:31
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HopperUK posted:Yeah likewise. Not sure if it's what you're thinking of, but there's a bit in The Brute Man where Mike gets laughing so hard he doubles over in his chair and you can tell he's struggling to keep it together.
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May 25, 2017 12:58
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I've watched a ton of mst3k but I've never watched Manos and I'm fine with that
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May 25, 2017 13:00
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moist turtleneck posted:I've watched a ton of mst3k but I've never watched Manos and I'm fine with that It's the one episode I always fall asleep when trying to watch. It's just such a dull movie, no amount of riffing can help.
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May 25, 2017 13:26
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It's not the worst episode (Looking at you, Castle of Fu Manchu) but it's not in my personal top five.
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May 25, 2017 13:28
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I've tried twice and I've yet made it though Hamlet. I teach English and legitimately like Hamlet but that movie feels like weaponized Ambien. God its just dull. You could tell me that Mike and gang reveal the secret to happiness and the cure for cancer in the second half of the movie and I'd still not make it through.
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May 25, 2017 13:41
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IMO what makes a Manos or a Carnival Magic interesting is that they feel like imports from another planet that no human had ever laid eyes on before. Still haven't seen that much MST3K but I really like that dumpster diving aspect & feel like it gives the show an edge against, say, Rifftrax goofing on a Michael Bay movie.
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May 25, 2017 14:01
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The sheer weirdness of Manos makes it watchable for me, just seeing all of the strange errors and sound dubbing and everything, watching something that genuinely tried very hard and is so obviously an amateur project. There are definitely aspects of the script in both Carnival Magic and Cry Wilderness that feel a little similar, like some weird salesman saw a few movies and halfway got what makes a screenplay good, but it was the wrong half, but both have production values that are very different from Manos. I definitely agree on Hamlet, though. Like, I love the play enough to watch a half-baked college production of it or some random Shakespeare in the Park attempt, but the German film is so dreary. It also feels like it was filmed entirely in the dark and all of the actors had to deliver their lines with half a glass of water in their mouths.
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May 25, 2017 14:10
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Sorry for the doublepost, but this needed its own note: I now deal with someone at work whose name is actually Professor Bobo, and every single time that I see it on paper, I do a double take.
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Lord Hydronium posted:One thing I do kinda miss, watching some older episodes, is the little non-joke reactions. Like giving off a little "What?" at a confusing shot, or singing a weird music cue (not making up lyrics, just repeating it), or the occasional incredulous laugh. They felt like genuine reactions, which nicely complemented the scripted riffs. (There's one moment I like, though I can't recall the episode, where Mike starts laughing so hard at something in the movie that it spills over into his actual riff.) Oh totally, the best part of the luchador reveal in Samson vs the Vampire Women was Mike and the bots bursting into laughter.
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8one6 posted:They need to pitch down one of the two like half an octave while in the theater. That's my only complaint about the new bots. I noticed this too, yeah. Part of the reason the original crew worked well was that you had someone with a relatively high register (Crow), someone with a relatively low register (Tom), and someone with an average register (Joel/Mike), which made the voices distinctive and helped to break up the stream of jokes with their distinctiveness. Jonah and Tom overlap just a little too much in register, and it can make it sound like a two-man show at times. Lord Hydronium posted:(There's one moment I like, though I can't recall the episode, where Mike starts laughing so hard at something in the movie that it spills over into his actual riff.) I think that's the part in The Brute Man where the crotchety old shopkeep is first introduced.
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