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T_D and Gateway Pundit are trying super hard to push Veselnitskaya being an Obama plant based on a video of her sitting behind our Russian ambassador during a hearing about Russia and Ukraine. I think this is the most desperate I've ever seen them. edit: this video
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Will this though be enough to oust Kushner from the White house or will he state that he needs to start paying attention to his business more / quietly leave.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:38
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Jr has a tell. :: cringeee smilee blinkkkk ::
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Jul 12, 2017 03:39
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Alt the Kings Men Has anyone used that before?
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Hollismason posted:Will this though be enough to oust Kushner from the White house or will he state that he needs to start paying attention to his business more / quietly leave. "I was only here to do one thing: achieve peace in the middle east. Now that my work is done, I am retiring from public office."
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Jul 12, 2017 03:40
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evilweasel posted:the rest of the white house leaks incriminating poo poo about their enemies All I'm saying is that there's a reason we've seen a lot of articles about how much Trump Sr.'s lawyers and the White House counsel hate everything going on right now and have threatened to resign
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Phoix posted:T_D and Gateway Pundit are trying super hard to push Veselnitskaya being an Obama plant based on a video of her sitting behind our Russian ambassador during a hearing about Russia and Ukraine. I think this is the most desperate I've ever seen them. Pretty funny that they go right along with the bullshit as well but opposite. Man we all gettin played.
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Jared, Ivanka, and Melania (!) are using the Don Jr. debacle to push for Reince Priebus's removal and a staff shake-up. https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph...bfbf_story.html Hollismason posted:Will this though be enough to oust Kushner from the White house or will he state that he needs to start paying attention to his business more / quietly leave. Kushner is not going to leave the White House anytime soon.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:41
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Just in case anyone isn't clear on how ridiculously stupid/dog-eat-dog the Trump crew is, here is how this played out: The fact that the FBI did not know about this makes you think what they do know to keep pressing. 
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Jul 12, 2017 03:42
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Also, the NYT says that this whole meeting was uncovered because Kushner was trying to cover his rear end and disclose it on official documents. Kushner probably could have gotten away with it, but he wanted to protect himself legally as much as possible and threw Trump Jr. (and kind of Trump) under the bus. he had to disclose it because manafort disclosed it first. last one out gets hung for treason
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Jul 12, 2017 03:43
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the talent deficit posted:he had to disclose it because manafort disclosed it first. last one out gets hung for treason Three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:44
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So why would Kushner's legal team be leaking? Are they not 100% on board with treason, is he not paying them enough, or what?
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Jul 12, 2017 03:44
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Decapage reminder: There is no reason for Mueller to stupidly blab about everything he finds. He's running a loving federal investigation and something is wrong if it is generating news before it's over.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:45
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What a great plan by Obama. Get Trump to collude with Russians, then wait til he's been president for seven months. The perfect crime.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:45
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Has anyone yet considered how slimy and evil the children of a Kushner/Trump pairing will probably be
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Jul 12, 2017 03:45
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cr0y posted:What the hell does fox do with their audio that makes it bounce off my walls in super weird annoying ways. Same with the text, it's tuned for an audience who can barely see past their hands and have digital hearing aids
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Night10194 posted:So why would Kushner's legal team be leaking? Are they not 100% on board with treason, is he not paying them enough, or what? Once Kushner's legal team diverted blame by pinning it all on their son-in-law. So, take a guess.
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Did Mueller really confirm that he didn't know about the email? That seems like a situation tailor-made for a Glomar statement.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:46
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So if Fox keeps bringing up Ukraine-Clinton, would they be happy with both Clinton and Trump being charged with collusion/conspiracy to collusion?
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Jul 12, 2017 03:46
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https://twitter.com/CraigHelf/status/884964959649763328
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Jul 12, 2017 03:46
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Does Mueller have the ability to subpoena or execute search warrants? I've never fully understood his actual powers.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:47
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All of this is very exciting, but I should remind everyone that it matters if and only if Trump resigns or is impeached and removed from office. (Just impeachment is not enough.) Again, waiting until Nov 2018 is not a sufficiently good scenario. There is too much at stake.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:48
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Hollismason posted:Does Mueller have the ability to subpoena or execute search warrants? I've never fully understood his actual powers. Yes. That's why Kushner's legal team was like "Plunge the world into chaos and potentially sell your in-laws down the river to give yourself a more secure legal paper trail" and Kushner said, "Sounds good to me."
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Jul 12, 2017 03:49
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Ah yes, those worldwide spy-crossed masterminds, who influence government across the globe.... UKRANIANS!
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Phoix posted:T_D and Gateway Pundit are trying super hard to push Veselnitskaya being an Obama plant based on a video of her sitting behind our Russian ambassador during a hearing about Russia and Ukraine. I think this is the most desperate I've ever seen them.
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Then Mike Pence is in charge. I see a flaw in your plan.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:49
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Donny Jr is just squating over his lawyer and taking a messy dump on his face. Like, all day this lawyer has had to wade through increasingly smelly and endless growing ocean of rotting human fecal matter. I would pity the legal team if they weren't defending Hitler 2.0: Now With More Incompetence.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:50
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This situation is literally "Stupid Prisoner's Dilemma." If all 5 of those people kept their mouths shut and their email secure, then there is no way this ever comes to light. Kushner was like, "Well, better be on the safe side (for me) and expose us all to protect myself slightly better."
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Jul 12, 2017 03:51
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:This situation is literally "Stupid Prisoner's Dilemma." Except it actually implicates him so he didn't even do that right.
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Enigma89 posted:Bannon is seriously a disgusting looking person.  Just as planned.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:52
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Hollismason posted:Does Mueller have the ability to subpoena or execute search warrants? I've never fully understood his actual powers. Yes to both, but he's in a discovery phase now. So we'll see warrants and subpoenas later.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:53
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:This situation is literally "Stupid Prisoner's Dilemma." Yeah which is why it's loving infuriating that the press is racing to release every goddamn detail before the feds are done working
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Jul 12, 2017 03:53
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So 'the media' is in a frenzy because junior twote the same story that NYT did, what, an hour later? It's not a fuckin go-kart race. That's the story?
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enraged_camel posted:All of this is very exciting, but I should remind everyone that it matters if and only if Trump resigns or is impeached and removed from office. (Just impeachment is not enough.) Then you should get to work, because the only way you'll get "satisfaction" will be by invoking old Southern meanings of that term.
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Jul 12, 2017 03:54
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:This situation is literally "Stupid Prisoner's Dilemma." It seems that anything similar to this administration can be used to describe it by prefixing 'stupid' to it. Stupid Watergate Stupid prisoner's dilemma
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Covok posted:Except it actually implicates him so he didn't even do that right. By amending his clearance form, he protects himself from an open and shut case on that. He threw everything into chaos to close off one avenue that could hurt him alone and opened up a whole lot more that could hurt other people and maybe him. It is a lot easier to get away with something when you don't have a sword affidavit and physical evidence contradicting that affidavit.
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skeleton warrior posted:Then you should get to work, because the only way you'll get "satisfaction" will be by invoking old Southern meanings of that term. What? Like sex? Are you saying I should have sex with a man from South? Why would I do that?
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theres a will theres moe posted:Yeah which is why it's loving infuriating that the press is racing to release every goddamn detail before the feds are done working the reports are that the feds did not have this ludicrously incriminating document that don jr tweeted to the entire world with a personal admission it was 100% genuine
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evilweasel posted:the reports are that the feds did not have this ludicrously incriminating document that don jr tweeted to the entire world with a personal admission it was 100% genuine Has anyone questioned those reports? What is the source here?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:By amending his clearance form, he protects himself from an open and shut case on that. he didn't really protect himself from an open and shut case on his original crime, just a continuing one
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