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Mel Mudkiper posted:I too long for a less interesting forum because they make fun of books I like You know drat well that there is a difference between "this book sucks because the hero is a giant weenie" and "this book sucks lol"
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When I first joined TBB I read middle brow books and everyone liked me but the Lit goons hated me. Now I read 18th century poetry to fit in but offline people think I'm a piece of poo poo monster snob. It's pretty cool. I'm still nice to everyone while also rolling my eyes at their reading preferences.
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StrixNebulosa posted:You know drat well that there is a difference between "this book sucks because the hero is a giant weenie" and "this book sucks lol" Yup, exactly. This is a rule clarification not a change, and the "try to post like someone interested in books" clause has been in the rules for years. All the book jerks around here can still be book jerks. Book jerk competitiveness helps people find cool new things to read. Just put in a little effort and don't post "that sux lol" type shitposts. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Nov 29, 2018 |
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Nov 29, 2018 17:39
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For real though I started posting in TBB thinking that book lovers would be the nicest goons and holy poo poo was I wrong. This is easily the meanest subforum, at least of the Finer Arts bunch. But it sincerely improved my tastes and needs from literature and I've discovered some of my favorite books from the meanest goons. That's TBB for you.
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Franchescanado posted:For real though I started posting in TBB thinking that book lovers would be the nicest goons and holy poo poo was I wrong. This is easily the meanest subforum, at least of the Finer Arts bunch. your welcome
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Franchescanado posted:For real though I started posting in TBB thinking that book lovers would be the nicest goons and holy poo poo was I wrong. This is easily the meanest subforum, at least of the Finer Arts bunch. No kidding, it almost put me off from lurking in here for a while. But I've found I really like some of the threads - the rec thread is amazing, the general sci-fi/fantasy thread is usually friendly (and when we go dunking on books, it's in an interesting way - just look at the recent Expanse discussion) and from what I've read of the Tolkien thread it's chill. This place can be cool, but it also gets very mean and snobbish and welp, that's SA for you.
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Franchescanado posted:For real though I started posting in TBB thinking that book lovers would be the nicest goons and holy poo poo was I wrong. This is easily the meanest subforum, at least of the Finer Arts bunch. I like to think I am not mean as much as I am passionate about stuff. I am willing to give anything an honest go but I also really care about art and literature and will defend my ideas passionately. EDIT: Like, I find a lack of curiosity the most frustrating thing. I don't get annoyed at genre readers because I think the books are bad, but because they never explore other things than the genre. I get similarly annoyed at people who only read vetted old "classics" instead of exploring contemporary literature as well. true fact a guy in an anime thread said he thinks I didn't know to read and I was like "mother fucker step into TBB and we'll go" Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Nov 29, 2018 |
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Nov 29, 2018 17:53
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im mean
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Nov 29, 2018 17:55
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lol mel posts in anime threads
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chernobyl kinsman posted:lol mel posts in anime threads jojo is art
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StrixNebulosa posted:This place can be cool, but it also gets very mean and snobbish and welp, that's SA for you. where do you think it can be like that?
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I like to think I am not mean as much as I am passionate about stuff. I am willing to give anything an honest go but I also really care about art and literature and will defend my ideas passionately. In that guys defence you do seem really stupid
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Nov 29, 2018 17:59
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CestMoi posted:In that guys defence you do seem really stupid I've learned long ago its better to appear foolish by taking risks and challenging yourself than it is to appear smart by taking none
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Nov 29, 2018 18:01
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Most of my jobs/gigs revolve around reading these days, and I can't even be bothered to shitpost anymore But more people should read Marias, imo, he's the best prose stylist around, and he even has plots (of a sort), although they don't generally have dragon tits so welp
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Burning Rain posted:Most of my jobs/gigs revolve around reading these days, and I can't even be bothered to shitpost anymore Javier Marias?
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jagstag posted:where do you think it can be like that? Most recently? In here, this thread itself. Also the fact that we had a thread literally titled "quit loving a child and read some real literature", that was, uhhhh Mel Mudkiper posted:I like to think I am not mean as much as I am passionate about stuff. I am willing to give anything an honest go but I also really care about art and literature and will defend my ideas passionately. You're legit and this is legit. Reading all kinds of books is cool.
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Nov 29, 2018 18:05
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sorry about your feelings strix
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Speaking of cross-genre stuff, it is cool as hell that Marlon James has gone from writing fiction to genre fiction, and I can't wait to read Black Leopard, Red Wolf. His Brief History of Seven Killings went hard.
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StrixNebulosa posted:Also the fact that we had a thread literally titled "quit loving a child and read some real literature", that was, uhhhh uh that's not the thread title and I find this disturbingly Freudian
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Himuro posted:Is there a highly regarded list of what we’re considered the best books of the 20th century? When I think of film I think of AFI’s for instance. Is there a good and reliable one for books? I like Greatest Books, which compiles around 120 critics lists to get as definitive a "best of" list as possible. You can adjust for time range.
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StrixNebulosa posted:Most recently? In here, this thread itself. for a long time you couldn't post anything that wasn't sci-fi/fantasy here without it be doa, there's a goldmined thread that is basically that. so the real lit thread was created in a reactionary state of mind and was the only one that really stuck so it's uhhhh snobishness comes from that. it sucks hardcore because it has been around for years now and it's really strange to see jokes and observations regurgitated in that thread made originally by like cestmoi
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Nov 29, 2018 18:21
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there was a long period of time where people hated me because i said comic books shouldn't be counted in your book challenge list and i couldn't post here without being like taken as someone being hostile or trolling
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Nov 29, 2018 18:23
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oh yeah I remember that. People wanted you dead
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jagstag posted:for a long time you couldn't post anything that wasn't sci-fi/fantasy here without it be doa, there's a goldmined thread that is basically that. so the real lit thread was created in a reactionary state of mind and was the only one that really stuck so it's uhhhh snobishness comes from that. it sucks hardcore because it has been around for years now and it's really strange to see jokes and observations regurgitated in that thread made originally by like cestmoi pls don't put the current state of the lit thread on me
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"Mean" wasn't the right term, either. I don't think anyone has any real hatred towards anyone. The supercilious nature of the lit thread comes off as vitriolic, and it is not welcoming at all compared to, like, CineD or NMD, where people will gladly argue with you and call you a dumbshit, but will at least welcome you first. TBB posters also seem to lack awareness when someone's being antagonistic because they hate them vs. joking, or at least not serious, antagonism. I kinda forgot my point, but it's just a little funny that goons still get defensive or intimidated by the Lit crowd when it's arguably the most welcoming it's been. jagstag posted:there was a long period of time where people hated me because i said comic books shouldn't be counted in your book challenge list and i couldn't post here without being like taken as someone being hostile or trolling Comic book fans are the most sensitive and defensive fan base there is. They need constant validation that their cape stories are art.
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jagstag posted:there was a long period of time where people hated me because i said comic books shouldn't be counted in your book challenge list and i couldn't post here without being like taken as someone being hostile or trolling FWIW I still think that comic book discussion is technically fine for this forum as long as we're talking about actual books, not magazines -- if it's printed in a trade then I'm at least conceptually fine with it being discussed here, a comic book *might* have literary / artistic merit and be worth discussing. After all, it says "book" right there in the name. That said BSS is the more appropriate forum for such so if someone's talking about a comic book here there would need to be a reason not to move the thread over there.
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jagstag posted:it sucks hardcore because it has been around for years now and it's really strange to see jokes and observations regurgitated in that thread made originally by like cestmoi CestMoi posted:pls don't put the current state of the lit thread on me vs Franchescanado posted:I kinda forgot my point, but it's just a little funny that goons still get defensive or intimidated by the Lit crowd when it's arguably the most welcoming it's been
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Javier Marias? jā
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The library has a couple of these that look interesting. Any specific place to start or just go?
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Mel Mudkiper posted:jojo is art One of my daughters keeps making me buy her something called “JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure part 3 -“ and it’s costing me a fortune.
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learnincurve posted:One of my daughters keeps making me buy her something called “JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure part 3 -“ and it’s costing me a fortune. Your daughter is awesome and lol you are so hosed because its up to part 8 now in Japan
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CestMoi posted:pls don't put the current state of the lit thread on me i meant it sucks to see the exact same sentiments just sit in that thread and not go on to the creation of like another thread so any lit talk that's not already in one of the current genre megathreads just sit there.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Your daughter is awesome and lol you are so hosed because its up to part 8 now in Japan My nephews got me to watch the first episode. I turned it off when the dude killed a dog just to be cruel. Like, at least work up to killing a dog. Don't pull out the dog torture in the first episode. You gotta work up into that poo poo. It's like when HBO's Rome had the first scene, first episode, just open right with the full frontal fuckin'. I want to at least know the character's names first. Otherwise it's just porn and I can't pretend I'm watching classy poo poo
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Franchescanado posted:"Mean" wasn't the right term, either. I don't think anyone has any real hatred towards anyone. The supercilious nature of the lit thread comes off as vitriolic, and it is not welcoming at all compared to, like, CineD or NMD, where people will gladly argue with you and call you a dumbshit, but will at least welcome you first. TBB posters also seem to lack awareness when someone's being antagonistic because they hate them vs. joking, or at least not serious, antagonism. it was never outright mean, it just challenged people to read something else. people do get defensive when they are told that they are limiting themselves, we all do imo.
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Also later on there is a hero Boston terrier who controls sand and it has a battle to the death in the streets of Cairo with a peregrine falcon that shoots ice
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Mel Mudkiper posted:He comes back that is not dog aaaaaaaaa
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Now that I think about it a lot of dogs get merc'd in jojo Very anti dog overall
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As a dedicated lurker, I'd just like to say that the Lit thread is what got me to expand my reading to books outside of genre fiction. Sometimes goons need a good brow-beating to get them to open their minds a little.  Also, Jojo is very good.
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Hieronymous my pitch for jojo is it's a cliche fist of the north star ripoff until the author realizes he is gay and gives all the characters avant garde clothes and lithe sexy ghost slaves that have magic powers and who they often do glamour poses with
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