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homeowner | 39 | 22.41% | |
renter | 69 | 39.66% | |
stupid peace of poo poo | 66 | 37.93% | |
Total: | 174 votes |
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The difference is that Rimmer was the worst Rimmer out of all the Rimmers in the multiverse. We'd be enormously fortunate if that was the case with Seymour.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 09:55 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 06:12 |
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Been on the dole at any time in the last 18 years? You've been ripped off: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/72095513/underpaid-benefits-could-cost-government-millions quote:Work and Income was meant to pay a beneficiary from the day after the two week period ended, but instead had been starting payments the following day, RNZ reported. It's okay though, National have tried to sneak in a retrospective amendment to correct the "error", and Anne Tolley says that a day's benefit for a beneficiary is not a significant amount.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 11:51 |
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TheSkeletonMan posted:Been on the dole at any time in the last 18 years? You've been ripped off: Beneficiaries are apparently a massive drain on the hard working kiwi taxpayer, while at the same time thousands of days worth of unpaid benefits are 'not huge amount of money' according to Tolley.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 12:10 |
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El Pollo Blanco posted:Beneficiaries are apparently a massive drain on the hard working kiwi taxpayer, while at the same time thousands of days worth of unpaid benefits are 'not huge amount of money' according to Tolley. This story was prominent on RNZ this morning but I really had to struggle to find any reference to it on Stuff or NZH today; Can we sue, or what? I think I'm out at least $100, not including interest. Thank god I never had to consider payday loans.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 12:20 |
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TheSkeletonMan posted:Anne Tolley says that a day's benefit for a beneficiary is not a significant amount. Let's take each day out of her pay until it's paid back, then. Since money isn't a big deal. It's also great how often National has made retroactive law changes to get out of stuff. It's only illegal if you get caught, then you change the law to make it legal when you did it! Moongrave fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Sep 16, 2015 |
# ? Sep 16, 2015 21:47 |
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:It's also great how often National has made retroactive law changes to get out of stuff. It's only illegal if you get caught, then you change the law to make it legal when you did it! It's just bad when Labour do it.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 22:11 |
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Reminder that if it is the other way around WINZ will demand the money back and probably have you charged with benefit fraud just for good measure.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 22:16 |
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:It's only illegal if you get caught, then you change the law to make it legal when you did it! What the gently caress is wrong with this country? How the hell can this be how our legal system works?
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 01:22 |
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Somfin posted:What the gently caress is wrong with this country? How the hell can this be how our legal system works? Oh my sweet summer child. This was simply the easiest way of making the problem go away. After all, who is going to make a fuss about scrounging beneficiaries not getting their government handouts?
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 01:46 |
Because nobody gives a gently caress. Revolutions and government overthrows don't happen when most people are able to go to work and spend their money on iphones without being shot or beaten or oppressed. I think of political systems as being subject to evolutionary pressures similar to biological organisms. The pressure of public discontent ensures that only the governments most effective at maintaining their grip on power can succeed. We've long since discarded dictatorial monarchy and despotism and such because they just aren't very good at keeping people looking at the ground. Modern western democracy is the latest form to evolve from ten thousand-odd years of selective pressure and it's mechanisms for keeping people are extremely sophisticated. Bad politicians no longer result in the overthrow and downfall of the system; instead they're discarded after a couple of years and another is elected, like shark's teeth. This makes no difference in reality, of course, but it alleviates some of the upward pressure from the seething masses of citizenry. This helps perpetuate the system as a whole because it convinces people that the system works and that governments act in their best interest or they get voted out of power. Policies are enacted using the most abstruse and publically low-profile ways so as to avoid raising the ire of the citizenry, and when they do come to light, are blithely hand-waved away or smokescreened by retarded 'debate' with easily-led morons drowning out any real discourse. This works because the structure of democracy and first world economies, as well as the safety valve of freedom of speech/expression, cultivate an attitude of indifference to poo poo that actually matters. Most people with half a brain can't be bothered voting because their vote won't make a difference; all the fuckwits with nothing better to do tend to vote religiously. This sets up a feedback loop wherein politics becomes more and more of a joke to any sane person, which discourages voting even further because each election presents fewer and fewer not-terrible alternatives as parties scramble for the fuckwit votes. Bureaucracy becomes so bloated, and legislation so labyrinthine, that attempting to modify or dismantle the system using it's own rules becomes effectively impossible and not worth bothering with. Yes something is bad and people will shout about it on twitter but nobody feels incentivised to do anything because doing things is what people who don't have jobs and lives and iphones and pets and finance payments have time for. Fonterra should try farming people. They build their own fence, insist that it be electrified (for our own safety!) and make no effort to escape when it breaks because they built that fence and theirs is the best drat paddock in the world.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 01:47 |
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Slavvy posted:Because nobody gives a gently caress. Revolutions and government overthrows don't happen when most people are able to go to work and spend their money on iphones without being shot or beaten or oppressed. This the most long winded way of saying "wake up sheeple" I've ever seen.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 05:57 |
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In his defense, Kiwis are pretty dumb. Not, like, relative to the global average. Just dumb.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 06:02 |
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Somfin posted:What the gently caress is wrong with this country? How the hell can this be how our legal system works? Because it's rich people changing the rules for when they gently caress with poor people, or dirty foreigners. Just accept it and move on friend, because it's never ever going to change, even if you brutally murder all of them the power structure will come back eventually until this planet is scorched off the face of the universe by our baleful sun. Hail satan.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 06:25 |
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fong posted:This the most long winded way of saying "wake up sheeple" I've ever seen.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 07:00 |
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Sorry I guess I was just being a tall poppy. I mean I don't even live in NZ
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 09:14 |
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Somfin posted:What the gently caress is wrong with this country? How the hell can this be how our legal system works? This is was people will start saying if King Charles ever decides to start throwing his weight around.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 09:45 |
f*cking hipsters
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 10:15 |
also it's p shameful that the apra music awards are only being broadcast online as far as i can tell?
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 10:19 |
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Exclamation Marx posted:
I'll give it this, it doesn't actually look all that bad on a bottle. Or through it.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 10:22 |
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it's not, because popular nz music is garbage and broadcast tv is dead
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 10:23 |
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puchu posted:it's not, because popular nz music is garbage and broadcast tv is dead Know what else is dead? New Zealand's rivers due to farmers polluting them.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 10:26 |
puchu posted:it's not, because popular nz music is garbage and broadcast tv is dead all pop music is good
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 10:30 |
except six60
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 10:31 |
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Know what else is dead? My balls are also dead. God bless Kiwi Farmers. Exclamation Marx posted:all pop music is good hmmm, i don't agree with this. Exclamation Marx posted:except six60 Wow mods please ban this chucklefuck for besmirching the good name of Six60, New Zealand's premier band
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 10:34 |
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puchu posted:Wow mods please ban this chucklefuck for besmirching the good name of Six60, New Zealand's premier band You mean 48May?? ?
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 10:47 |
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I feel comfortably too old to have heard of those awards and bands. Also Garage Project make nice beer.
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 10:52 |
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Exclamation Marx posted:all pop music is bad
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 11:15 |
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I only listen to fast crew
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 20:20 |
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echinopsis posted:I only listen to fast crew Dei Hamo or GTFO
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 20:25 |
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that was actually a quote from someone else
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 20:44 |
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Silicon is the good kiwi tunes. and broods. and th' dudes of course
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# ? Sep 17, 2015 22:47 |
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God six60 suck
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 02:44 |
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Just thinking about them is making me bored but in like an angry way
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 02:46 |
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I have never heard of them. I do not consume inferior domestic media
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 03:16 |
swampland posted:Just thinking about them is making me bored but in like an angry way Cause you know they're wasting your time.
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 03:51 |
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This video is pretty fun. His Scout jab at 1m50s is A+
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 04:34 |
Man MediaWorks is going to poo poo https://twitter.com/althecat/status/644729360948133888
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 06:49 |
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I haven't been paying attention, what's this Mediaworks thing about and why should I care?
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 07:08 |
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Spiteski posted:This video is pretty fun. His Scout jab at 1m50s is A+ Oh hey, it's Robbie! I know this guy personally, he's got excellent comic timing. All of his videos are worth a watch.
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 08:14 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 06:12 |
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Exclamation Marx posted:Man MediaWorks is going to poo poo They need more Paul Henry. I want to see Paul Henry on my TV while I eat breakfast, I want to hear him on my radio on the way to work and I want him on TV by 6pm when I turn on the news. Its working for TVNZ!
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# ? Sep 18, 2015 10:03 |