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I'd like to hear some SAS unbiased opinions on if I was in the right or not during my last game of the season. The crappy team that I sub for was playing the #1 team in the league, who are already jerks IMO because they made a Miami Heat super-team out of three other teams in a not super competitive league. So, they were beating us, but game was respectable. Our team doesn't really know how to setup a powerplay. I am playing defense and their players start to loudly trash talk from the bench on our quality of play. Next time I go down the ice, I raise my stick and tap most of their team in the face. Not enough to do damage, but just to let them know. They say keep your stick down, I say keep your mouth shut. I admit it was a cheap play, but I think it was funny and they got what they deserved. Maybe next year I'm switching to curling though, I'm getting too old for this.
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First off, ringer teams are in literally every single beer league out there. Yes it sucks, but some people get their jollies from winning every game by double-digits. That said, they were dicks for trash talking you, but you took the dickhead cake by hitting them all with your stick. Stop being a dick.
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Mar 23, 2012 23:46
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It was a dick thing to do, but at the same time, it was supremely funny. So I think overall it's a wash.
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Mar 24, 2012 00:08
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Let me just consult the Mighty Ducks where I believe a one Fulton Reid does the same thing... Did you perchance come out from behind the net in a Flying V? This is important.
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Mar 24, 2012 00:23
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Carwash oval office posted:I'd like to hear some SAS unbiased opinions on if I was in the right or not during my last game of the season. The crappy team that I sub for was playing the #1 team in the league, who are already jerks IMO because they made a Miami Heat super-team out of three other teams in a not super competitive league. You actually hit people sitting on the bench in the face with your stick on purpose? If you weren't kicked out of the game you should have been; if you did this to my team (and were not kicked out) I would have first spent the rest of the game squawking at you and applying lumber behind the play and then immediately after the game talked to the commissioner to see about your suspension. If anyone got cut or lost a tooth or something we'd then move onto lawyers. What the gently caress were you thinking? Also our game this Sunday was originally scheduled for noon, which would have been great...I was going to play, then go to brunch, then spend the rest of the afternoon watching TV and drinking beer, then watching the Mad Men premier. I was very excited about this. The other team (this is the division 2 team we're playing for some reason btw) asked the commissioner to change the game to some other time. The only time available was 9:00 Sunday night. Their reason for the reschedule? Church. I am not happy about this.
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Mar 24, 2012 00:38
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If they have a problem with it they should come out and throw their gloves. If you did the facetapping without being prepared to throw down then you're a shithead, though.
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Mar 24, 2012 00:39
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No penalty. Made it through a whole year without any! Don't think I've ever used my stick before doing anything like that in 20+ years of hockey (and I never will again), but I do blame that Mighty Ducks movie for inspiring it. The other thing I will remember from this year was playing against a man who was close to 300 pounds. He had pretty good hands, but late in the game he tripped over the blue line and fell backwards into the boards at full speed. I felt so bad for the guy, he got the air knocked out of him and the sounds he was was making were terrifying. It was something between a wolf howl and a child screaming.
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Mar 24, 2012 00:59
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e: ah, nvm. I'm tired, should go to bed.
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Mar 24, 2012 05:57
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Carwash oval office posted:I admit it was a cheap play, but I think it was funny and they got what they deserved. Maybe next year I'm switching to curling though, I'm getting too old for this. Too old for this but you act like an 8 year old? You should probably quit now and be thankful you still have your head on your shoulders after that.
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Mar 24, 2012 18:56
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sellouts posted:Too old for this but you act like an 8 year old? It's okay, they all had cages on. No one was hurt.
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Mar 24, 2012 20:23
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Concussion symptoms sometimes appear several hours after the game
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Mar 24, 2012 21:04
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And if they had cages on, they're more likely to get concussed. 
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Mar 25, 2012 03:15
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Dangerllama posted:And if they had cages on, they're more likely to get concussed. Every time I strap my cage on, I worry if today is the day that I come home a vegetable.
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Mar 25, 2012 04:55
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sellouts posted:Too old for this but you act like an 8 year old? Yeah, pretty much. If I were reffing that game, you would have been tossed out on your rear end and referred for further disciplinary action (read: suspensions beyond 1 game) no questions. edit: ffs what if you caught somebody's neck? It's actually kind of timely that I was recently reading an incident report (our ref association keeps all the incident reports filed after games where people got match penalties/game misconducts/whatnot online so officials can read/learn/etc from them) from a game that clearly had a team of ringers involved, and there was a fight (lol yes a glove dropping fight in beer league hockey), and as the two players were being escorted off, the one on the ringer team (winning 11-3 mind you) was cursing and screaming and insulting the refs and the other team, and the guy on the other team was being extremely complacent and even thanked the refs for explaining the penalties and keeping the game mostly in line and such. That's how you be the more mature person... Topoisomerase fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Mar 25, 2012 |
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Mar 25, 2012 20:59
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Only two suspensions and they both play for my team:smith The 30 day has expired but he was moving so it ended his time on our team early.
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Mar 25, 2012 22:13
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Topoisomerase posted:It's actually kind of timely that I was recently reading an incident report (our ref association keeps all the incident reports filed after games where people got match penalties/game misconducts/whatnot online so officials can read/learn/etc from them) from a game that clearly had a team of ringers involved, and there was a fight (lol yes a glove dropping fight in beer league hockey), and as the two players were being escorted off, the one on the ringer team (winning 11-3 mind you) was cursing and screaming and insulting the refs and the other team, and the guy on the other team was being extremely complacent and even thanked the refs for explaining the penalties and keeping the game mostly in line and such. That's how you be the more mature person... It's kinda strange that this dude dropped the gloves in a beer league game and then afterwards turned around and was all calm and what not. In the end, did it matter that one was more mature about it than the other? (You know, aside from one looking like a a jackass.)
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Mar 25, 2012 22:26
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First off, sorry for crapping up your thread. I will go away after this. What I meant about being "too old" was that I hate getting worked up playing a game and acting like a fool. What I did obviously was crappy, but the league I was playing in is a true bush league, where stupid stuff happens all the time. This year I've been hit from behind (in that 3 foot danger zone) in a no-contact league, seen guys get sucker punched, spit on and a guy even skated up to our goalie and started doing crotch chops after he scored a weak goal (we still won that game at least). Except for the hit from behind, none of these were called penalties, because the refs are local guys from each small town. When the games were against other teams that played hard but clean (usually young guys), it was great. Playing against the thug teams, I turned the other cheek all year, but for whatever reason a much better team trash talking is what pushed me over the edge. Now to try and change the subject, I'd always played center as a kid, but now I have much more fun playing defense. Instead of skating up and down the ice all night, you can sit back, and poke-check/counterattack if a good chance comes up.
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Mar 25, 2012 22:42
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People on the internet are a bit puritan. I mean, is what you did not right? Yeah, but I can't say I'm shedding a tear for a few trash talkers who got a little bit of poo poo thrown back at them. I don't think you crapped up the thread. 
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Mar 26, 2012 02:17
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I just found this thread want to agree with the OP that the Sher-Wood 5030 is the greatest stick on the planet and everyone should have one.
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Carwash oval office posted:First off, sorry for crapping up your thread. It's the internet. Try not to take this stuff too seriously. Your move was pretty gnarly, but in real life it's not as damning as it comes out when read on and internet comedy forum. So long as no one was seriously hurt or anything, you decide not to do it anymore and move on.
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Mar 26, 2012 07:42
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coldwind posted:Compliant? yes thanks. still recovering from finals brain. quote:It's kinda strange that this dude dropped the gloves in a beer league game and then afterwards turned around and was all calm and what not. In the end, did it matter that one was more mature about it than the other? (You know, aside from one looking like a a jackass.) well, yeah, because I can totes understand trash talking with some dude and yall are obviously playing for the stanley cup and poo poo cause beer league is serious business and he's all throwin down and you get all caught up in the moment with it and poo poo but then like, when told to stop, you actually get your mind back and don't act like a douche about it. Guy who's essentially threatening the refs when winning 11-3 in a beer league game after getting in a fistfight is going to dig himself a pretty big hole. and it isn't crapping up the thread, it's just that it seems like perhaps you might have come here thinking that people would agree that it was a cool thing to do and really it wasn't - they're being dicks but their "words" are not going to send anybody to the hospital or make anyone miss work the next day or whatever.. and that league sounds lovely.
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Mar 26, 2012 08:10
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poser posted:Only two suspensions and they both play for my team:smith gonna look these ones up 
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We won our first playoff series last night  All three games in the series were decided by 3 goals too, which is kind of weird. And now, a question on technique... I was playing right D last night as a right-handed shot. There were a few times in my own zone I wanted to send the puck back around the boards on my backhand and only once did I really get some good oomph on it. I was wondering, does anyone in this situation ever reverse the grip on their bottom hand to get a more "shovel" type grip to send it around? Is this another scenario where I need to be flexing my stick and letting it do the work more?
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Mar 26, 2012 15:58
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Why were you trying to send the puck around the boards? Was it to another player? If not, do not ring the puck around the boards. But I think we need more specifics. If you need to, turn your body to get a forehand pass off. If you can't do that for some reason - e.g. no time - use the glass to chip the puck up and out. If you do it right, you should be able to get the puck out to the neutral-zone without icing it, but also not have it get picked off by the defenseman on the point. Backhand passes in the defensive zone are generally a bad idea.
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Mar 26, 2012 16:12
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Scenario, the other team cleared the puck and I missed the keep. I turn, skate hard, and get to the puck on my backhand along the boards, but have someone on me hard. My defensive partner is on the far side of the net. The play, in my mind, is to send it around the boards in a controlled fashion to my D-partner on my backhand. He could then skate it up, slow it down, or pass it back to me when the guy pressuring me veers to get to him. Things I know I don't want to do: 1) give the puck up via takeaway, and 2) send the puck across the middle of the ice not knowing the trailer situation. Our goalie, who has gotten more vocal, was also calling "around" for me to send it around to my partner.
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Mar 26, 2012 17:04
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I think a direct pass would be better, but your defensive partner needs to keep himself available for it. If he's hiding behind the net he's the one with the error in technique.
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Not sure how much space is between the dude you're passing to but I'd try to pick the puck up with speed and take it around the back of the net and cross with your defensive partner especially if he's guarding you hard along the boards... or if the guy is on you too hard and trying to cut your angle as you would sweep around the boards I'd hit the brakes and try to curl back up ice, opening yourself up with a forehand pass or a chip out of the zone at least. Worst case, I'd eat the puck and put it in between my skates and the boards until someone like your center skated back and helped bail you out. Also depends on if the 2nd forechecker was closeby or if they team was changing... xzzy posted:I think a direct pass would be better, but your defensive partner needs to keep himself available for it. If he's hiding behind the net he's the one with the error in technique. Maybe I'm not understanding the situation correctly -- but with not knowing where the 2nd forechecker is as he says behind the net for the pass is one of the safest places..otherwise a pass to him when he's in front of the net could be picked off by that 2nd trailing forechecker with a direct and open take on the net with space to move. sellouts fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Mar 26, 2012 |
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Mar 26, 2012 17:31
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Yeah I suppose you're right.. though I think part of the problem is giving advice based on my mental image of what he's describing rather than the reality of what was going on.
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Mar 26, 2012 18:59
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You know, I never even thought about carrying the puck myself behind the net. That probably would have been a smart move too. I'll look for that next time.sellouts posted:Maybe I'm not understanding the situation correctly -- but with not knowing where the 2nd forechecker is as he says behind the net for the pass is one of the safest places..otherwise a pass to him when he's in front of the net could be picked off by that 2nd trailing forechecker with a direct and open take on the net with space to move. You have it exactly. The direct pass across the center of the ice wasn't an option, I had no idea where the second skater on the forecheck was, and if I were that forechecker I'd be skating my rear end off to intercept that possible pass.
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I'll say this as a goalie/player, if you're ever unsure of what to do with the puck it's far better to at least smash it up the boards then anything else. The key there is getting a ton of power on it. If I'm in net I want my D-men to find a decent pass and if they can't hit it hard up the boards, because even if it does get intercepted if they hit it hard the guy will have a hard time handling it. At which point I can get my angles right to stop a potential shot. Most likely tho the person won't be able to handle it and it'll make its way out of the zone. Nothing is more infuriating to have someone try to make a clearing pass that goes right in the slot and doesn't have a lot of power. That's just like setting up a hospital pass in football and is just asking for trouble.
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real_scud posted:I'll say this as a goalie/player, if you're ever unsure of what to do with the puck it's far better to at least smash it up the boards then anything else. The key there is getting a ton of power on it. Don't do this! Even in the NHL, watch how many times a ring-around-the-boards play turns into a scoring chance for the other team. If you're going to chip it out of the zone, it needs to go off the glass/high boards. As a defenseman, I love it when a D-man in the corner just tries to zing the puck around the boards. My first thought when I see it is, "gently caress yes! I'm going to snag the puck and walk it in for either a free snap-shot or an easy pass to the far side." If you can't get it up and out, then eat the puck like sellouts said, and wait for help. In no-check hockey, this is a very safe play. Seriously. Once you start to look for it, you'd be amazed at how many goals get scored from exactly this kind of turnover. waffle enthusiast fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Mar 26, 2012 |
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Mar 26, 2012 20:14
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Dangerllama posted:Don't do this! Yep, I tend to agree. Especially at the level most people are playing at... if the D is pressured enough to not have any other option more times than not they whiff and it's an even easier turnover.
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Mar 26, 2012 21:00
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Dangerllama posted:Don't do this! I think real_scud meant bang it up the near-side boards, not ring it around.
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Mar 26, 2012 21:04
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Our game last week had something odd happen. At one point we find another puck on the ice. Someone had it tangled up in their pants for whatever reason and it fell out as they jumped on the ice for their shift. How in the hell did this happen? A teammate tossed it into our player box before anyone else saw it, never mind the refs. Reminds me of a time when we "lost" the puck after a shot from the blue line. A few moments later it was found securely lodged in a defense-man's blade holder.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:I think real_scud meant bang it up the near-side boards, not ring it around. Yes, and I mean don't even put it up the near-side boards unless you can cleanly put it out of the zone. Moving the puck up the boards from below the face-off dots (i.e. not passing it) is usually a bad decision. Generally it's a panic play. Instead, take some ice and look for a clean pass, eat the puck and wait for the cavalry, or put it off the glass and out. waffle enthusiast fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Mar 26, 2012 |
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Mar 26, 2012 21:25
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19 o'clock posted:Our game last week had something odd happen. At one point we find another puck on the ice. Someone had it tangled up in their pants for whatever reason and it fell out as they jumped on the ice for their shift. How in the hell did this happen? A teammate tossed it into our player box before anyone else saw it, never mind the refs. I need to start tucking a puck into my pants for one of those scrambles in front of the net where we keep getting screwed out of goals.
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19 o'clock posted:Our game last week had something odd happen. At one point we find another puck on the ice. Someone had it tangled up in their pants for whatever reason and it fell out as they jumped on the ice for their shift. How in the hell did this happen? A teammate tossed it into our player box before anyone else saw it, never mind the refs. You just need to ring up Toews, he can find anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AONbD4UobxQ
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Dangerllama posted:As a defenseman, I love it when a D-man in the corner just tries to zing the puck around the boards. My first thought when I see it is, "gently caress yes! I'm going to snag the puck and walk it in for either a free snap-shot or an easy pass to the far side." If you can't get it up and out, then eat the puck like sellouts said, and wait for help. In no-check hockey, this is a very safe play. Yeah - I think this stems from an incomplete understanding of the idea of breaking the puck out combined with the (correct) idea that you should not fling the puck up the middle of the ice in your own zone. When you're doing a very basic breakout, the wings are first taught to stay along the boards, no deeper than the hash marks. So theoretically, you should have a wing there to fight for the puck. But that doesn't always happen, and most of the time that wing is going to be blanketed anyway. But beginner defensemen will throw it up there because omg that's where the wing is "supposed" to be - but in reality if the wing is there, the boards are definitely not the best way to get it to them, a tape to tape pass will be much more effective!
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xzzy posted:You just need to ring up Toews, he can find anything. Haha, "It almost looks like Antti Niemi is giving birth to that thing."
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Monday Night Instructional Hockey week 4: More drills tonight. We did a breakout drill, 3 guys on offense and two on D. Playing the right D, I got torched pretty bad by some guy in a Lindros jersey, but I turned around and hustled, so I was somewhat able to keep him from getting inside. On offense, I was able to get open for a gimme at the post, but the pass was so crisp I shanked it just wide. All in all I am slowly getting better, and was able to put a couple past the goalie on some 1 on 0 shooting drills. I also jumped into a skating class on Sundays thats starts immediately after open skate, so for the next 3 weeks I get out there twice. Why didn't I do this 10 years ago?
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