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ZombieLenin posted:My main I don’t think I would ever sell; however, the character in question, like I said was just a hauler alt to me despite the fact she had 90 million SP. I did this same poo poo and ended up with a JF alt to haul all the poo poo around my carriers/super needed. Glad I did it because holy gently caress JF prices these days
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Pomp posted:i stared at this for ages before figuring out i was in the eve thread Hey, the MER is good for something other than smugging about how Delve is worth more than the rest of the galaxy (even if smugging is its best and highest purpose).
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Cobbsprite posted:As a relative newbee, how bad is eveflation, really? Lets put it this way... I sold that character maybe 2013, which was before the era of skill injectors... now that character would sell for over 80 billion, in the era of skill injectors. To put it another way, if you have 30 billion liquid isk now, you are doing very well for yourself... back in 2013 I felt rich as gently caress with that wallet balance.
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Jan 9, 2019 14:08
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ZombieLenin posted:To put it another way, if you have 30 billion liquid isk now, you are doing very well for yourself... back in 2013 I felt rich as gently caress with that wallet balance. Holy poo poo. Really? I have less than4b total assets across my three accounts. Clearly I suck at money making.
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Jan 9, 2019 15:08
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ZombieLenin posted:Lets put it this way... I sold that character maybe 2013, which was before the era of skill injectors... now that character would sell for over 80 billion, in the era of skill injectors. I'm sitting on just over 50b liquid and feel barely more than lower middle-class.
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Jan 9, 2019 15:10
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Hrrrm. Would a 60mill SP gallente flyer from 2008 sell for anything notable nowadays, then?
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Jan 9, 2019 15:12
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Mr. Pickles posted:Hrrrm. Would a 60mill SP gallente flyer from 2008 sell for anything notable nowadays, then? Character sales are largely dead. If you want to sell a character nowadays, you use Skill Extractors on their brain and suck the good poo poo out until you're at 5M skill points, at which point you can no longer suck. Character sales technically still exist, but 95% of the time you'll get an offer that will be below what you would have made by just using skill extractors and selling the injectors.
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Mr. Pickles posted:Hrrrm. Would a 60mill SP gallente flyer from 2008 sell for anything notable nowadays, then? extracting would cost you 42b in extractors for 120 then you can sell them for about 101b ask nolak for a very shortterm loan and enjoy your newfound wealth
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Character sales are largely dead. If you want to sell a character nowadays, you use Skill Extractors on their brain and suck the good poo poo out until you're at 5M skill points, at which point you can no longer suck. Character sales technically still exist, but 95% of the time you'll get an offer that will be below what you would have made by just using skill extractors and selling the injectors. Plus character sales need $20 or a special petition to take 1000 plex, so they're kinda a hassle. But that's interesting. If you price an guy equal to the full SP value including first 5m plus the skillbooks, you don't get takers? That's a bargain compared to injectors for any character in the 50m+ zone where injectors get really inefficient. I guess the new whales aren't looking past skill injectors -- maybe if someone is already set on spending $500 for a character, they're also set on it being their character. Also probably indicates that the old market really needed the character tycoons to be middle-men and provide liquidity. e: FAT32 SHAMER posted:ask nolak for a very shortterm loan and enjoy your newfound wealth extractors are high because winter and injectors just dived after everyone went on a spree with the holiday booster Klyith fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Jan 9, 2019 |
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Jan 9, 2019 15:52
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Klyith posted:Plus character sales need $20 or a special petition to take 1000 plex, so they're kinda a hassle. In general people want hyperspecialized alts instead of jack of all trades alts or alts that can do a few different things, so all the skillbooks that they dont have to pay for dont matter because they dont plan on using those skills anyways
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Klyith posted:Plus character sales need $20 or a special petition to take 1000 plex, so they're kinda a hassle. It's more that it isn't worth the hassle to search for a character that has the right spread of SP for what you want, when you can just slam injectors into their brainstem and get a perfect alt, every time, with no waste. You're right that it could be a better deal to get a character with skillbooks already plugged in, but how much time would you have to spend tracking down exactly that character, especially when Character Bazaar activity is at an all-time low?
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Jan 9, 2019 16:48
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Klyith posted:the price spread is pretty poo poo right now IMHO. woot, then its certainly no time to be breaking toons right now In any case this is a good way to get serious isk as a returning player  Have to say, the game has nice utility options in terms of multi account and alt management now, compared to old plex days.
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Mr. Pickles posted:Hrrrm. Would a 60mill SP gallente flyer from 2008 sell for anything notable nowadays, then? It depends on how well it’s trained. Most likely it will just have its head drained.
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Morkfang posted:I'm sitting on just over 50b liquid and feel barely more than lower middle-class. Right. Exactly my point I think. In 2013 you would have probably been in the top 30%.
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ZombieLenin posted:Right. Exactly my point I think. In 2013 you would have probably been in the top 30%. But strangely enough all the T1 stuff is around the exact same price as it was a decade ago. So it's not universal inflation, people genuinely are just richer. I remember caring if I lost a T1 battleship, but now they are basically disposable.
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Rutibex posted:But strangely enough all the T1 stuff is around the exact same price as it was a decade ago. So it's not universal inflation, people genuinely are just richer. I remember caring if I lost a T1 battleship, but now they are basically disposable. That reminds me, I need to log in and pay for a couple more Thanatos hulls I ordered. I lost one trying to park it on the edge of Querious, and I never did replace my last Thanexplos.
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Rutibex posted:But strangely enough all the T1 stuff is around the exact same price as it was a decade ago. So it's not universal inflation, people genuinely are just richer. I remember caring if I lost a T1 battleship, but now they are basically disposable. We have Bhaalgorns in a main fleet doctrine and not as a joke!
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gently caress all of you, as a new player I am struggling just to afford to buy my first cap, lol
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Dalael posted:Even tho I've been playing EVE on and off for years, even though I often thought I would never come back.. the thought of selling my characters never even went through my head. Somehow... it feels wrong to do so, but that's just me Yeah, I agree. The next best thing I could force myself to was extracting skills from a character I didn't want anymore and then biomass what was left. For some reason the idea of someone else playing my characters gives me the creeps, I'd rather destroy them utterly instead. (After sucking out all the skills, I'm not mad enough to just throw all the money away. Just most of it.)
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Cobbsprite posted:gently caress all of you, as a new player I am struggling just to afford to buy my first cap, lol Join fleet, say on comms "Hey I'm new, how do I fire my blasters?" while flying an amarr ship. Wait five minutes, buy cap.
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"How do I load my warp disruptor? Where's the ammo for this thing?"
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Join fleet, tackle a gate rat, etc.
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Paramemetic posted:Join fleet, tackle a gate rat, etc. Join fleet, tackle FC, get blown up
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guys i locked onto the gate and pressed d why amt i jump
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Rust Martialis posted:Join fleet, tackle FC, get blown up "He told me to anchor..."
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Rust Martialis posted:Join fleet, tackle Gate, get blown up by gate sentry turrets
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Join Asher's fleet, take gate Asher specified, realize you are now in highsec, die to Concord, listen to Asher apologize on comms
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in the age of free security status i have no idea why so many people are negative i rat maybe twice a week for an hour or two and in october i was 1.2, now i'm 3.7
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Rutibex posted:But strangely enough all the T1 stuff is around the exact same price as it was a decade ago. So it's not universal inflation, people genuinely are just richer. I remember caring if I lost a T1 battleship, but now they are basically disposable. I was just thinking the other day about how capital kills—regular ones, not supers—used to make the forums. And relatedly what a big deal affording one used to be when I started playing crica 2006.
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ZombieLenin posted:I was just thinking the other day about how capital kills—regular ones, not supers—used to make the forums. And relatedly what a big deal affording one used to be when I started playing crica 2006. in 2006 losing a battleship was a big deal because it was something like 120mil plex was 350mil at the time too
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ZombieLenin posted:I was just thinking the other day about how capital kills—regular ones, not supers—used to make the forums. And relatedly what a big deal affording one used to be when I started playing crica 2006. i remember when creating a titan made headlines, now apparently its normal to lose like 50 in a battle or something???
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:in 2006 losing a battleship was a big deal because it was something like 120mil timecards were like 100-150 and plex didnt exist, all the trading was done on forums because there was no item to trade in game
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:timecards were like 100-150 and plex didnt exist, all the trading was done on forums because there was no item to trade in game and only occasionally got goons banned
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Posterity has already lost but they may wanna know why so here's why https://clips.twitch.tv/ImportantClumsyPorpoiseCoolStoryBro 
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:in 2006 losing a battleship was a big deal because it was something like 120mil Plex didn’t exist in 2006. Edit Fruit is correct, you could trade isk for time codes on the forums. But plex as a thing, even as a “pilot’s license,” did not exist as an in-game thing. ZombieLenin fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:and only occasionally got goons banned Something something billymerc.
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Viva Miriya posted:Something something billymerc. BUY ELUSIF EVE GOLD
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A rose by any other name would smell as sweet
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On top of that the LARGE majority are all from the same alliance. There should at least be rules that prevent an all Goon GSM again, how do you spin that in any possible way that doesn't greatly benefit the Goons. After all even CCP are Goon pets now. Should be a limit of 1 CSM seat per major alliance .
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