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Commander Keene posted:Okumura's Palace definitely went on too long in vanilla, my first run at P5 died at the Casino and I think fatigue from the Spaceport was a significant part of that. There are definitely airlock puzzles including a new optional one. The keycard was both made a lot shorter and thematically improved; the minion robots rat out their bosses, telling you their bosses weaknesses. On the other hand the Okumura boss fight is now the worst.
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It's...merciless.
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The Okamura fight would have been OK if there were actually other fights in the game which required you to really lean hard into the baton pass mechanics but there aren't so it comes out of left field
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So I've started to finish my first few social links in P5R and I got a good laugh when one night, I was like "Hey Kawakami, can you make some curry please thanks." "Hey Takemi, come over here and please conduct a special physical examination for me right here at the cafe." "Thanks for waiting through all that, and thanks for the curry, Kawakami."
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FireWorksWell posted:It's...merciless. lol
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A note on pacing. If you're designing a game and have a section where the player loses control of the character because you're spending that time in forced actions helping someone, a section where the player loses control of the character because you're on holiday, and a section where the player loses control because one of the friends has run off and the protagonist is depressed please don't put them back to back. That section's a slog.
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Man it's going to own in six months when I move back to Iniba, or whatever small town I'm from and just let these blood oaths turn into their final form: a neglected group chat. do not tell me about strikers
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neonchameleon posted:A note on pacing. If you're designing a game and have a section where the player loses control of the character because you're spending that time in forced actions helping someone, a section where the player loses control of the character because you're on holiday, and a section where the player loses control because one of the friends has run off and the protagonist is depressed please don't put them back to back. That section's a slog. There's this part I remember of all the Persona games and it's always the opening third. After that it feels like the middle episodes of a slow tv series before finally spiking on the final ep. It doesn't suck and I'm still entertained but filler bleeds together without any particular highlights and it's hard to remember anything in the middle until this thread brings it up.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:34
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HootTheOwl posted:I disagree. What didn't you like about smtv?
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playing royal has taught me that when persona 6 comes out I should wait a couple more years for the better version
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i can't remember if they changed the lines on the phansite meter in Royal but i love the guy during the Okamura arc who says "but what about the burgers" and also "QUE EST PHANTOM THIEF"
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Sydin posted:a) Price only plays for the first half of the dungeon instead of the whole thing Doesn't it work the same in Vanilla and Royal? Price for all the dungeon until you enter the vault, and Price [Another Version] inside the vault.
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Petiso posted:Doesn't it work the same in Vanilla and Royal? Price for all the dungeon until you enter the vault, and Price [Another Version] inside the vault. Yes.
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HootTheOwl posted:Man it's going to own in six months when I move back to Iniba, or whatever small town I'm from and just let these blood oaths turn into their final form: a neglected group chat. Walking away without a word aka the Yu Narukami Special.
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Mailer posted:There's this part I remember of all the Persona games and it's always the opening third. After that it feels like the middle episodes of a slow tv series before finally spiking on the final ep. It doesn't suck and I'm still entertained but filler bleeds together without any particular highlights and it's hard to remember anything in the middle until this thread brings it up. I think P5R has a better success rate than that; I'd say that the rollercoaster starts with the aftermath to the Spaceport. That's almost the entire second half of the game, and the pyramid also has a decent twist because it doesn't work like any of the others. And the first and second palaces don't need huge twists because the simple existence of the first one is itself a twist, and the second is your first non-tutorial one so sets the baseline before things get really interesting. But I'd cut one of three and five and scavenge some of the plot points and teammate to make the other one and palace four denser, and three is the obvious choice to cut. (Have Makoto blackmailed by Medjed rather than Kaneshiro and not a lot changes while Medjed are actually established as bad guys not an entirely offscreen threat)
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Pwnstar posted:Walking away without a word aka the Yu Narukami Special. I did like in P5 compared to P4 the P5 cast didn't act like the MC moving away would mean a complete cessation of any and all communication, never to be spoken of again. Like it feels Joker probably moves in with his LI after his senior year at [ERROR: LOCATION NOT FOUND] high school. Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Nov 5, 2022 |
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It's also a lot better in Royal where everybody else also has stuff going on and some are even also moving away, vs vanilla or P4 where the protagonist is the only person moving on.HootTheOwl posted:Man it's going to own in six months when I move back to Iniba, or whatever small town I'm from and just let these blood oaths turn into their final form: a neglected group chat. Strikers is good. Petiso posted:Doesn't it work the same in Vanilla and Royal? Price for all the dungeon until you enter the vault, and Price [Another Version] inside the vault. Oops you're right, probably just didn't notice because in vanilla you could beeline straight through the vault in a minute because all the PIN terminals were outside the side rooms.
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Sydin posted:
I wouldn't know, I'm just saying I know he doesn't abandon them to go home like the other one.
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Does ryuji need to be in the party for his ability to work? The instant kill one? And why does this game not have the "fuse from compendium" ?
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AnimeIsTrash posted:What didn't you like about smtv? I found the story kinda light, and while the atmosphere of Daat and Tokyo was good it just felt like a slog between that and the throne.
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HootTheOwl posted:Does ryuji need to be in the party for his ability to work? The instant kill one? He does not.
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Dragonrah posted:He does not. Great! What about ann?
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HootTheOwl posted:Great! For what? Her "All yours?" I think so.
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neonchameleon posted:For what? Her "All yours?" I think so. Her turn ending posses
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Also I think my new headcanon says that if I'm not dating them then: Futaba and Yusuke, Ann and Ryuji
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I mean, personally Ann and Shiho but your opinions are valid and seem to be seen as default in fanfic/fandom circles.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I mean, personally Ann and Shiho but your opinions are valid and seem to be seen as default in fanfic/fandom circles. She's been off screen so while that might be true, I haven't been shown that yet.
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HootTheOwl posted:She's been off screen so while that might be true, I haven't been shown that yet. I mean yes she's off screen. But also like every second Ann Social Link hangout is about her and Shiho somehow.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I mean yes she's off screen. But also like every second Ann Social Link hangout is about her and Shiho somehow. one or two are, but she doesn't get focused on anything until the model shows her up the second time
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Yusuke has one love and it is ART
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New Personas need to be like the newer Fire Emblems where you spend most of your time trying to make particular pairs of party members smooch while plot and combat incidentally happens in the background instead of this lame poo poo where only the player character gets to smooch people
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Sapozhnik posted:New Personas need to be like the newer Fire Emblems where you spend most of your time trying to make particular pairs of party members smooch while plot and combat incidentally happens in the background instead of this lame poo poo where only the player character gets to smooch people I really do wish more games would implement shipping as a game mechanic. If I can't kiss Kanji then at LEAST let someone else kiss him.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I really do wish more games would implement shipping as a game mechanic. They did, and that someone else was Teddie: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6kshcEms0fg&t=60s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kshcEms0fg&t=60s
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Flair posted:They did, and that someone else was Teddie: The dialogue later with Teddie going to kiss you and you can respond "Lay it on me!" and then Dojima walks in like "what the gently caress are you two doing" is one of P4G's genuinely intentionally funny moments.
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A person who pushed Lisa x Ekichi, though, would be the sickest of fucks.
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Is it ethical to make out with Teddie
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Teddie took care of me while I was half-dead with pneumonia, I think that makes us common law married?
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The pairing is clearly Yosuke x Teddy, they already live together.
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P5R in comparison to vanilla P5 - Did they change the Okumura fight? That felt way harder than what I remembered the original being.
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