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Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004


AntennaGeek posted:

I'm still showing as 'referred' for a postion 4 years after the fact, despite knowing they hired someone else, and then decided to just eliminate the position entirely.

... so you're saying there's a chance!

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Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
What happened to the poor guy who got hired?

corp-courier
Jul 22, 2018
Alt Acct, long time goon etc etc.

I'm a Nuclear Materials Courier (Federal Agent) for Energy. Currently we are going through a massive hiring wave. As you all know Fed Jobs are lucrative and Federal Law Enforcement even more so. Currently there are two positions I'm aware of that are being filled (ABQ NM, and Amarillo TX).
NNSA FA's is probably the farthest thing from your traditional law enforcement experience, however arguably the most para-military in the federal line up next to Agency PMOs. There is no grooming standards, uniforms, and the academy is roughly three months and its a gentlemen course, no getting smoke, no marching, formations etc.

The job requires a Q (TS/SCI) HRP (w/ Psych Eval) and NO poly



Below is a link to the recruiting site, and USAJOBS posting. If anyone has any questions about the job, hiring process, academy etc let me know!

https://fmt.kcp.com/OSTfederalagent/

UPDATE

There is an active posting: https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/505157400

This job use to be closed to VRA only, but looks like they are taking general public.

REMEMBER SPONGE MONKEYS
Oct 3, 2003

What do you think it means, bitch?

corp-courier posted:

Alt Acct, long time goon etc etc.

I'm a Nuclear Materials Courier (Federal Agent) for Energy. Currently we are going through a massive hiring wave. As you all know Fed Jobs are lucrative and Federal Law Enforcement even more so. Currently there are two positions I'm aware of that are being filled (ABQ NM, and Amarillo TX).
NNSA FA's is probably the farthest thing from your traditional law enforcement experience, however arguably the most para-military in the federal line up next to Agency PMOs. There is no grooming standards, uniforms, and the academy is roughly three months and its a gentlemen course, no getting smoke, no marching, formations etc.

The job requires a Q (TS/SCI) HRP (w/ Psych Eval) and NO poly



Below is a link to the recruiting site, and USAJOBS posting. If anyone has any questions about the job, hiring process, academy etc let me know!

https://fmt.kcp.com/OSTfederalagent/

UPDATE

There is an active posting: https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/505157400

This job use to be closed to VRA only, but looks like they are taking general public.

I’ve got an old secret clearance with radiation safety background, does that count (I’m guessing hard no :cawg: )?

corp-courier
Jul 22, 2018

REMEMBER SPONGE MONKEYS posted:

I’ve got an old secret clearance with radiation safety background, does that count (I’m guessing hard no :cawg: )?

Shoot your shot man, an active Q is not required, you'll be processed for a Q during the hiring process.

AntennaGeek
May 30, 2011

Artificer posted:

What happened to the poor guy who got hired?

He was never given a start date after the CJO.

Personnel office wound up dealing with it,. since the hiring manager refused to accept that his headcount for direct reports got reduced.

Rakeris
Jul 20, 2014

corp-courier posted:

Alt Acct, long time goon etc etc.

I'm a Nuclear Materials Courier (Federal Agent) for Energy. Currently we are going through a massive hiring wave. As you all know Fed Jobs are lucrative and Federal Law Enforcement even more so. Currently there are two positions I'm aware of that are being filled (ABQ NM, and Amarillo TX).
NNSA FA's is probably the farthest thing from your traditional law enforcement experience, however arguably the most para-military in the federal line up next to Agency PMOs. There is no grooming standards, uniforms, and the academy is roughly three months and its a gentlemen course, no getting smoke, no marching, formations etc.

The job requires a Q (TS/SCI) HRP (w/ Psych Eval) and NO poly



Below is a link to the recruiting site, and USAJOBS posting. If anyone has any questions about the job, hiring process, academy etc let me know!

https://fmt.kcp.com/OSTfederalagent/

UPDATE

There is an active posting: https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/505157400

This job use to be closed to VRA only, but looks like they are taking general public.

How much time away from home is there for that job?

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy

corp-courier posted:

Alt Acct, long time goon etc etc.

I'm a Nuclear Materials Courier (Federal Agent) for Energy. Currently we are going through a massive hiring wave. As you all know Fed Jobs are lucrative and Federal Law Enforcement even more so. Currently there are two positions I'm aware of that are being filled (ABQ NM, and Amarillo TX).
NNSA FA's is probably the farthest thing from your traditional law enforcement experience, however arguably the most para-military in the federal line up next to Agency PMOs. There is no grooming standards, uniforms, and the academy is roughly three months and its a gentlemen course, no getting smoke, no marching, formations etc.

The job requires a Q (TS/SCI) HRP (w/ Psych Eval) and NO poly



Below is a link to the recruiting site, and USAJOBS posting. If anyone has any questions about the job, hiring process, academy etc let me know!

https://fmt.kcp.com/OSTfederalagent/

UPDATE

There is an active posting: https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/505157400

This job use to be closed to VRA only, but looks like they are taking general public.

What's the promotion potential with that position? I can't find an NV pay scale anywhere

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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Rakeris posted:

I wouldn't count on that haha, having been though the whole process I could either write a long thing or just say good luck. I'm honestly not sure which would help you more. One thing I will say about the panel is don't be afraid to use you imagination a bit.

Well I have many applications out there so I’m not too bothered, but wtf. I read a GAO report and the polygraph pass rate is 25%. loving lol

Rakeris
Jul 20, 2014

Yeah its rather silly, if they can't check all of the boxes no matter how irrelevant they are, they won't / can't hire you. So it feels more like a luck of the draw than anything. But you might be one of the 25%!

corp-courier
Jul 22, 2018

Rakeris posted:

How much time away from home is there for that job?

75 percent more for travel, generally one week on the road, one week home sometimes 3 weeks home one week on the road its sporadic

incels interlinked posted:

What's the promotion potential with that position? I can't find an NV pay scale anywhere

Currently we are on pay banding, with no LEAP/Step etc. This mainly because of how much overtime is given out, not uncommon for some couriers to be making 6 figures as an NV01. The agency is used alot as a stepping stone, to get in the door and get all the really good candy on the resume as I've heard other agencies view Couriers in a very high regard with how top shelf our firearms training and tactics are.

Woof Blitzer posted:

Well I have many applications out there so I’m not too bothered, but wtf. I read a GAO report and the polygraph pass rate is 25%. loving lol

and all of the most notable insiders that committed acts of treason all passed their polys with flying colors. Its a joke, and an honest person with test anxiety can come back as deceitful

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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corp-courier posted:

75 percent more for travel, generally one week on the road, one week home sometimes 3 weeks home one week on the road its sporadic


Currently we are on pay banding, with no LEAP/Step etc. This mainly because of how much overtime is given out, not uncommon for some couriers to be making 6 figures as an NV01. The agency is used alot as a stepping stone, to get in the door and get all the really good candy on the resume as I've heard other agencies view Couriers in a very high regard with how top shelf our firearms training and tactics are.


and all of the most notable insiders that committed acts of treason all passed their polys with flying colors. Its a joke, and an honest person with test anxiety can come back as deceitful

What was your work experience before you got hired?

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


My better half didn't get referred to a job she should have been referred for and is pretty bummed out by it. Total travesty! Just wanted to vent.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009

corp-courier posted:

The agency is used alot as a stepping stone, to get in the door and get all the really good candy on the resume as I've heard other agencies view Couriers in a very high regard with how top shelf our firearms training and tactics are.

I'm in one of those positions people use your job to try to get. You're right, I've heard nothing but very good things about you all's training and skill level. I hope you're enjoying it! I definitely would have considered it in my 20s.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Communication from my union regarding a pending FAA open application bid for Air Traffic Control Specialist developmentals. Bid opens July 27, closes on the 31st, POSSIBLY SOONER.

quote:

The FAA is accepting applications nationwide beginning July 27 from people interested in becoming air traffic controllers. When the application link is available, NATCA will share it on social media & member communications.

Applicants must be U.S. citizens, speak English clearly, and be no older than 30 years of age (with limited exceptions). They must have a combination of three years of education and/or work experience. They are also required to pass a medical examination, security investigation, and FAA air traffic pre-employment tests. Applicants must be willing to work anywhere in the U.S. Agency staffing needs will determine facility assignment.

Accepted applicants will be trained at the FAA Academy in Oklahoma City. Active duty military members must provide documentation certifying that they expect to be discharged or released from active duty under honorable conditions no later than 120 days after the date the documentation is signed.

Visit https://www.usajobs.gov to start building your application and https://www.faa.gov/Jobs for more information.

We have a thread!

We have our own payscale and exist outside the GS!

We still get federal locality!

We still have a defined-benefit pension!

A large portion of us work in the goon-ideal workspace! (Dark room, bathed in monitor glow.)

More seriously, open hiring bids like this are an ENORMOUS opportunity for people that have had a hard time figuring out what they want to do with their lives. It requires no specific prior experience outside of either a degree (any degree,) work experience (any work experience,) or some combination thereof.

I'll post the actual USAJOBS.gov link here when it becomes available.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Hay guyz

It is weird looking out the window of a skyscraper at work after years working somewhere that the smell of cow manure occasionally drifted to from a nearby farm

Though my favorite thing about this job is surely that my supervisor likes that I have a Ph.D. rather than talking down to me like I must be slow for having not worked more "real jobs." Ah, anti-education people.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


If I have an offer for a higher salary than I’m currently making, can I use that to jump to a higher grade? Or are those kinds of negotiations frowned upon?

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy

Josh Lyman posted:

If I have an offer for a higher salary than I’m currently making, can I use that to jump to a higher grade? Or are those kinds of negotiations frowned upon?

You can't negotiate higher grades if you already work there. Have to wait for your time-in-grade and for an open announcement if you are already at journey level

Alternatively, if a higher grade job open to the public opens up you can apply as an external hire if you are qualified and use the offer to negotiate for that but it would technically be a different job.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


incels interlinked posted:

You can't negotiate higher grades if you already work there. Have to wait for your time-in-grade and for an open announcement if you are already at journey level

Alternatively, if a higher grade job open to the public opens up you can apply as an external hire if you are qualified and use the offer to negotiate for that but it would technically be a different job.
In the case of the job open to the public, would I say I’m a current federal employee?

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

MrYenko posted:

Communication from my union regarding a pending FAA open application bid for Air Traffic Control Specialist developmentals. Bid opens July 27, closes on the 31st, POSSIBLY SOONER.


We have a thread!

We have our own payscale and exist outside the GS!

We still get federal locality!

We still have a defined-benefit pension!

A large portion of us work in the goon-ideal workspace! (Dark room, bathed in monitor glow.)

More seriously, open hiring bids like this are an ENORMOUS opportunity for people that have had a hard time figuring out what they want to do with their lives. It requires no specific prior experience outside of either a degree (any degree,) work experience (any work experience,) or some combination thereof.

I'll post the actual USAJOBS.gov link here when it becomes available.

Direct link to job posting is here!

Apply! Become an impatient rear end in a top hat like the rest of us!

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
Dear thread, what should I know before taking the Defense Language Aptitude Battery?

Terror Ninja
Oct 23, 2008

Discendo Vox posted:

Dear thread, what should I know before taking the Defense Language Aptitude Battery?

I'm not sure if it's something you can study for. It is a made up language that tests your aptitude. My recommendation would be to get a good night's sleep and eat a decent breakfast before.

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



6 Weeks after applying for a job and getting referred I hadn't heard anything, but I happen to be friends with the person who was leaving the job on Facebook so I messaged him to ask some specifics about the position and he says 'it's already been filled". No problem there, glad to know and move on. Now I wonder how long that position will say "Referred" in my profile. I'm guessing it will inform me the position has been filled by Q2 2019.

Jean-Paul Shartre
Jan 16, 2015

this sentence no verb


Anyone have recent insights in exempted service application tips/trends? There's an SEC position that looks up my alley (asset management-side enforcement) but I'd appreciate any tips before applying/writing out the USAJobs resume.

Kase Im Licht
Jan 26, 2001
I recently got an email from OPM with an E-QIP code. Despite the email telling me I should also hear from my sponsoring agency about what to do, I've heard nothing from anyone. I did go ahead and create a new account and start filling out info as it's only got some of my previous information and nothing recent. I'm guessing this is a renewal for my Public Trust since I haven't even had any interviews lately let alone a job offer. But I'm just short of 7 years with the government total, and just past 3 with my current agency. That timeline doesn't seem to match up with renewal timelines but maybe they're really backed up and it was supposed to be done 2 years ago?


This link says it should be 5 years for a PT renewal. No idea if I have MRPT or HRPT. Nothing new was done when I switched agencies.
https://news.clearancejobs.com/2011/10/09/security-clearance-investigations-process-updated/

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

FWIW, my local office got my paperwork for my renewal on the 11th of April, and didn’t bother to give it to me until the day before the May 15th deadline. I never got an email about it.

The system is hosed, OPM can jump off a loving cliff and die.

Elem7
Apr 12, 2003
der
Dinosaur Gum
When I was hired on I was told that the background check "required" for my job would probably not even be started for at least a year and in all likelihood take 2 years to be completed. Instead of waiting for the investigation to be completed all that had to be done before I could start working was to get everything required for the background check submitted to OPM and for them to acknowledge it was received, nothing more. Supposedly if you do fail the check you can all of a sudden just get told you're fired 2 years into the job which is pretty crazy but I assume pretty rare for simple public trusts.

Based off my experience I'd guess that yeah, you're probably now around 5 years after your check was done even if you have been with the Feds for 7 years

Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004


I had been working for three years by the time they did my public trust investigation...

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude
That would have been nice. My initial hire I was told they were starting the background check in May and then I didn’t actually get to start until the following May. That year sucked.

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


Someone looking to get a non competitive appointment with a disability with major depression or anxiety: does your direct manager know about your disability? I know someone who should be using that but doesn't want their working relationship to be affected by that appointment

Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.
It's called hired contingent when they bring you on before your background is done. It's pretty common. That was probably on one of the forms you signed. Good news is you start early; bad news is you can be on a job for a year or two and get told to go home.

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

Discendo Vox posted:

Dear thread, what should I know before taking the Defense Language Aptitude Battery?

The DLAB is basically a combination of a hearing test and being able to follow consistent rules they give you. You'll deal entirely in a made-up language for the test, so just follow the rules they give you and don't read into it. If you have a firm grasp of logic and can understand/figure out what a stressed syllable is, you should be fine.

Lady Bureaucrazy
Jan 24, 2007

Step 1: Insert speaker into vagina

Goodpancakes posted:

Someone looking to get a non competitive appointment with a disability with major depression or anxiety: does your direct manager know about your disability? I know someone who should be using that but doesn't want their working relationship to be affected by that appointment

Are you talking about Schedule A hiring authority? Hiring managers can't ask specific questions about your disability unless it relates directly to your ability to do the job. So in most cases a manager would never know specifics, though they'd be aware that you were selected under Schedule A.

Delorence Fickle
Feb 21, 2011
Got a boatload of emails for various jobs today. Got referred to a position in OPM Retirement Services branch. (Any advice on this one?)

OTOH, got another one from the Census that said:

"This position is not being filled under this announcement but will be re-advertised. If you would like to be considered for this position, you must re-apply under the new vacancy announcement number"

Well that hurts.:smith:

REMEMBER SPONGE MONKEYS
Oct 3, 2003

What do you think it means, bitch?
Don’t see why it should hurt, seems like standard gov’t hiring bullshit? You should be glad they even let you know, I’d think.

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

What have folks' impressions been of the lower level (I:e not in the headlines) appointees at your respective agencies under this administration?

I'm new to government, so I don't have any context for understanding what's normal or not, but some of the appointees I've come across have been pretty appalling. We had someone put in charge of a high profile national initiative whose last job prior to "campaign staffer" was literally "dominoes pizza delivery guy"

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
USCIS got "administration stooge, but he worked here for more than a decade before that" so that has to be an A+ appointment for these literal idiots all things considered.

sparkmaster
Apr 1, 2010
We got beefy ex-navy seal hunk, so at least our know-nothing administration stooge is good looking.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
The only appointee I've heard good things about is Gottlieb at FDA- everyone I've spoken to from every direction is astonished how well things are going there (aside from all the ways HHS, the usual suspects in FDA regspace, and Congress are loving things up ofc)

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
USACE is its own weird animal and while there's been proposals to try and break up some of its functions and move them into Interior and State, it'd take an act of Congress to fully implement and lol if that's gonna happen.

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