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Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
Any editing/writing sites that work with Canadian/Non-US people? I'm trying Amazon mturk and I want something more.

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kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.

"Client sent me an assignment, let's see what it is."
Subject line "Henry Rollins: Keep Talking, Pal"
From: Destiny

Slightly Used Cake
Oct 21, 2010
That sounds much better than my HIV specialist who mispronounces common words so my ability to track down drug names is completely suspect. Who pauses in the middle of inhibit?

ARCDad
Jul 22, 2007
Not to be confused with poptartin
Does anyone do the "Teach English to Chinese kids" option? I've got an interview tomorrow on this, so wanted to see what people thought of it/the experience.

Seems to pay decent though I know the hours can be a little odd.

No. 9
Feb 8, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Depends on the program really, from what I've heard the real gravy train left on that but there's still some viable markets and you can still make decent money. I'm pretty sure there's an ESL teaching thread.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

momtartin posted:

Does anyone do the "Teach English to Chinese kids" option? I've got an interview tomorrow on this, so wanted to see what people thought of it/the experience.

Seems to pay decent though I know the hours can be a little odd.

It was really awesome a couple years ago but the market's pretty saturated at this point and the entry level pay is, predictably, freefalling.

The three people I know who do this all really love it, though.

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
Someone did a write-up on it a while ago, I remember "VIPkid" if you want to search for it in this thread.

zombiegandalf
Aug 20, 2017
How long do Lionbridge and Leapforce usually take to get started on? Is transcription really dying a horrible death or should I give Focus Forward a shot?

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

zombiegandalf posted:

Is transcription really dying a horrible death

Yes. Unfortunately, it is.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
I dunno, there are still places regularly hiring on LA CL that's aren't the 30 cents an hour shops. I'm sure it'll be dead in a few years once the production companies realize they can use a computer, but maybe some are willing to pay for having a perfect transcript with all the production conversation left off and everything laid out clearly--which a computer probably won't do that well without human editors. I know if I was a producer I'd want something that I can just sit down and skim through and sent to the editors and not see a bunch of bad computer translations or other nonsense added in. I bet some of them hate having to use DT for stuff.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

thylacine posted:

I dunno, there are still places regularly hiring on LA CL that's aren't the 30 cents an hour shops. I'm sure it'll be dead in a few years once the production companies realize they can use a computer, but maybe some are willing to pay for having a perfect transcript with all the production conversation left off and everything laid out clearly--which a computer probably won't do that well without human editors. I know if I was a producer I'd want something that I can just sit down and skim through and sent to the editors and not see a bunch of bad computer translations or other nonsense added in. I bet some of them hate having to use DT for stuff.

I certainly hate having to use DT for stuff.

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.

Yeah, there's a lot of transcription out there that will go away, but there's always going to be a market for stuff computers can't do well. I mean, there's tons of places like Rev around right now and Rev even offers automatic transcription at a pittance, but people still kick out for the good shops because they don't want to deal with a garbage result. I imagine the next big shift will be places doing automatic transcription and hiring humans to clean it up, format, timecode, et cetera.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Eric the Mauve posted:

Yes. Unfortunately, it is.

These days I move boxes for Amazon and complain about my feet hurting and sometimes pick up some work for Syncwords since they're basically the only ones who had anything coming in with any regularity aside from DT and lol I don't want to risk DT poo poo while also working six days a week.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Does anyone have any experience with Shopify? I don't mean working for them but having a Shopify store. What are the ins and outs of it all?

zombiegandalf
Aug 20, 2017
Does anyone have any experience with Focus Forward? I know it's working for cheap, but is it remotely steady?

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Does anyone have any experience with Shopify? I don't mean working for them but having a Shopify store. What are the ins and outs of it all?

They are legit and have a nice interface and good integration with poo poo like shipping and payment. You could frankly do much worse.

What are you asking though, like how accessible it is to someone who's never done any of it before?

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Mister Sinewave posted:

They are legit and have a nice interface and good integration with poo poo like shipping and payment. You could frankly do much worse.

What are you asking though, like how accessible it is to someone who's never done any of it before?

Yeah, that. As in, I've heard that you don't even need inventory, which makes me wonder how the hell that's supposed to work. Are there producers or distributors that have merchandise ready to be sold by someone with a Shopify storefront?

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
They are an ecommerce front end but also have basically an app store, and while I've not tried it personally there are drop shipping add ons. Like you pick products to "sell" and on the back end it's really drop shipping from banggood or whatever.

Haven't tried it but you really need to blog/review/etc to push that stuff because no one will just order from you instead of wherever else just because you're there. It works but it's not easy money, more like a trickle of nickels. You don't need physical inventory, but you will still need to sell (as well as pay the fees)

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
Yeah, there is a thing called drop shipping. But the drop shippers don't charge much less than what you can sell it for.

But what are you planning on selling?

You need to find a niche that no one or few are selling to make any money. Think AS SEEN ON TV things, little doodads, invent something, etc. When sites like Wayfair, Amazon, Ebay sell everything under the sun on razor thin margins you gotta find something really specific to sell if you wanna make money.

There is an old archived thread from 2013 about a guy that sold mini-stills. It has lots of good information in it. It's closed but I've had it favorited for years in case I ever think of a good niche, which I still haven't.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3564355

EDIT:



Finally god darn it finished this god darn file god darn it.

unbuttonedclone fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Jun 7, 2018

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.

Hey, I sort of got half-911ed.

Me: "Hey, look, I can deal because I've been doing this forever, but I just want you to know it's not cool to send this kind of file out without giving the transcriber a heads up."
Client: "What? I thought we put a note in there about the audio quality. Sorry about that, just do your best."
Me: "No, I'm not talking about the audio quality, I'm talking about the fact that this is an interview for a trial, and the trial's about sexual abuse of a minor."
Client: "...oh, gently caress."

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

kazmeyer posted:

Hey, I sort of got half-911ed.

Me: "Hey, look, I can deal because I've been doing this forever, but I just want you to know it's not cool to send this kind of file out without giving the transcriber a heads up."
Client: "What? I thought we put a note in there about the audio quality. Sorry about that, just do your best."
Me: "No, I'm not talking about the audio quality, I'm talking about the fact that this is an interview for a trial, and the trial's about sexual abuse of a minor."
Client: "...oh, gently caress."

Help me out here... What does 'being 911'd' mean, in the transcribing world?

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Help me out here... What does 'being 911'd' mean, in the transcribing world?

A while back, IIRC, someone got a batch of 911 calls that included one where someone died on tape. (Or maybe it was body camera footage, I forget.) Basically, any time you get anything that has to do with a criminal case you've got to be prepared for something hosed up.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
It means being given material to transcribe that might haunt your nightmares for the rest of your life, which (outside the world of legal transcription) most commonly occurs with 911 calls. Assigning such material to a transcriptionist without warning them and giving them a chance to nope out of it is extremely Not Cool.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Holy poo poo :stare:

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.

This time it was at least the customer. The customer gave them a heads up about lovely audio quality but not the content, and the interview took a while to get to the hosed up part so they didn't catch it while checking out the file. I only stumbled across it because I try to skim everything before I accept it so I'm not surprised if the tape goes to poo poo halfway through, and one of the bits I landed on was the kid talking about what the other person had done to them. I like this client and they're generally pretty good so I don't hold it against them, but I let them know that if I hadn't already developed the transcriber equivalent of the thousand-yard-stare I might not have taken this one so well. :)

(Of course now they know I won't turn my nose up at hosed up stuff so I imagine I'll see more of this kind of thing. Ah well.)

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
Hurray I coined a phrase. :smith:

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

kazmeyer posted:

A while back, IIRC, someone got a batch of 911 calls that included one where someone died on tape. (Or maybe it was body camera footage, I forget.) Basically, any time you get anything that has to do with a criminal case you've got to be prepared for something hosed up.

It was body and vehicle cam specifically of a bunch of police shootings and it was me. Nothing like watching cops blow people away for an entire day, with the slap on the face being having to do my best to grab whatever the cops and their victims or victims' relatives are screaming.

Shima Honnou fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Jun 7, 2018

zombiegandalf
Aug 20, 2017
My documentation for Focus Forward mentions altering audio files. What can you do to an audio file to make it easier to transcribe?

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice
Noise removal, equalization, a few things.

ohnobugs
Feb 22, 2003


zombiegandalf posted:

My documentation for Focus Forward mentions altering audio files. What can you do to an audio file to make it easier to transcribe?

I wouldn't worry too much about it. If a file's sound quality is bad enough where you're thinking of that you should say something to whoever assigned it and get yourself more time to work on it or a different file to work on. You can try out sound editing software like ocen audio. I know that one's free. I've been doing this forever, and I honestly haven't opened a sound editing program in years. I've found it's much more helpful to have a pair of headphones that isn't heavy on the base. Sometimes poo poo's just badly recorded and no amount of wizardry can un-gently caress it.

vvv yes 1000x!

ohnobugs fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Jun 9, 2018

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
Also remember you're not getting paid for loving with the file to get it usable.

Slightly Used Cake
Oct 21, 2010

kazmeyer posted:

Hey, I sort of got half-911ed.

Me: "Hey, look, I can deal because I've been doing this forever, but I just want you to know it's not cool to send this kind of file out without giving the transcriber a heads up."
Client: "What? I thought we put a note in there about the audio quality. Sorry about that, just do your best."
Me: "No, I'm not talking about the audio quality, I'm talking about the fact that this is an interview for a trial, and the trial's about sexual abuse of a minor."
Client: "...oh, gently caress."

Oh dude, that sucks.

I had a 911 call before Christmas where a little dude had conked his head. Stepdad was way too calm and the kid was making an ungodly noise. Only comment was "good audio" because that client's sales team says everything is good audio. The kid stuff is the hardest. *internet hugs*

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.

Fortunately they didn't go into a lot of detail. (Unfortunately that was because the kid was too young.) All I can say is that I've got a new respect for the social workers who have to conduct these interviews, because she was absolutely chipper the entire time and treated it like it was just some game that had been played. I figure I can't nailgun this guy's dick to a wall, but maybe the transcript will help the prosecutor do just that in a metaphorical sense.

I'm so glad my next tape was a reality show producer asking an actual marine biologist whether the megalodon really could be living in the Marianas Trench. Her sarcasm and absolute refusal to buy into the nonsense was refreshing.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Those guys need to be taken into an old barn, have their dick nailed to the floor, then hand them a rusty jagged can lid and set the barn on fire.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Eric the Mauve posted:

Those guys need to be taken into an old barn, have their dick nailed to the floor, then hand them a rusty jagged can lid and set the barn on fire.

I choose to believe you mean reality TV producers, which, also yes.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Eric the Mauve posted:

Those guys need to be taken into an old barn, have their dick nailed to the floor, then hand them a rusty jagged can lid and set the barn on fire.

I’m finally playing the game from your avatar for the first time and is it possible to win anything from them? Sorry this is extremely off topic!

vvvv thanks!

Jedi Knight Luigi fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Jun 11, 2018

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Sure is. The win odds are exactly the 1-in-16 that you'd expect. The prizes are utterly insignificant so it's kind of a waste of time anyway. But it's fun! :v:

Slightly Used Cake
Oct 21, 2010
"you know how there's an allowable number of aliases you can use in Canada"

Is a phrase I have typed this evening...definitely not doing illegal poo poo there buddy.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
What's going on with DT? Do they have one massive project or are they just busy with lots of various projects? If it's the former, more importantly, what kind of project, good work, or poo poo work? They're spamming the hell out of me with work offers.

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SquirrelFace
Dec 17, 2009

counterfeitsaint posted:

What's going on with DT? Do they have one massive project or are they just busy with lots of various projects? If it's the former, more importantly, what kind of project, good work, or poo poo work? They're spamming the hell out of me with work offers.

Lots of stuff. Most stuff they’ve given me this week has been .80 a minute or better. Some easy researcher stuff, some challenging audio nat geo (but paid okay for DT and lots of dead air) and a documentary with interesting subject matter. They also had some basic Food network stuff floating around. Worth getting in on the feast of you need some cash.

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