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pangstrom posted:Probably the absolute worst rap I've ever seen. First thing I thought of was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg9ruee3Vos God, they're just writing Jon Stewart's show for him at this point aren't they?
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He is going on leave, but John Oliver is the sub. He does The Bugle and has no problem ripping into stuff on a weekly basis.
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Apr 13, 2013 19:17
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I like to imagine that the timing of Stewart's sabbatical comes down to "Well, poo poo, if they're going to do most of the work for me, I can go make a movie and the show will be fine while I'm gone."
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Mo0 posted:I like to imagine that the timing of Stewart's sabbatical comes down to "Well, poo poo, if they're going to do most of the work for me, I can go make a movie and the show will be fine while I'm gone." You just wrote Stewart's first return joke.
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Mo0 posted:I like to imagine that the timing of Stewart's sabbatical comes down to "Well, poo poo, if they're going to do most of the work for me, I can go make a movie and the show will be fine while I'm gone." Every time Stewart takes a break, everyone's always "God, why did he have to do it this week of all weeks?", completely ignoring the fact with conservatives, every week is "this week of all weeks". It's not like they ever stop. Jon could do his whole whow, Tosh 2.0 style, just hammering together clips of news shows that day. We get a lot of Andy Dean down this way for some reason and this prick is absolutely insufferable. He's like Hannity only not as knowledgeable or talented, if you can believe that. Yesterday he was going on about some report concluding that the midwestern droughts from last year were not the result of global warming/climate change and had a guest on saying that one conclusion, even if correct, doesn't mean there's no climate change happening. Apparently, this level of logic is beyond the intellectual capacity of your average talk radio host. Meaning that since the media and a lot of climate scientists theorized and reported that the droughts were likely due to global warming when they weren't, then there's no global warming.
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BiggerBoat posted:Every time Stewart takes a break, everyone's always "God, why did he have to do it this week of all weeks?", completely ignoring the fact with conservatives, every week is "this week of all weeks". It's not like they ever stop. Jon could do his whole whow, Tosh 2.0 style, just hammering together clips of news shows that day. This type of thinking is pretty much par for the course for people in general, but especially conservatives. I am not sure how much it still shows up, but for a while climate-skeptics would use media reports of global cooling from the 70's as the proof that climate change wasn't happening. And of course the charges of flip-flopping that plague anyone that changes positions on issues since being wrong once negates your opinions FOREVER.
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Apr 13, 2013 22:12
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Internet Webguy posted:"My name's Dana Perino and I'm here to say, I'm about to embarrass myself nationally in a major way." THAT IS THE FUNNIEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE! OH MY GOD! THAT IS INCREDIBLE! I wish I was that man. Everything must hold such joy and wonder for him.
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THE GAYEST POSTER posted:THAT IS THE FUNNIEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE! Everything except his penis. beatlegs posted:LOL and ROFL those "Red Eye" folks are such characters aren't they? It's actually The Five, the show they put together to replace Glenn Beck. Red Eye usually tries to be a little funnier than that, but it is still college republican humor through and through.
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Speaking of John Oliver, there's his rap in Community. "My name is Ian Duncan and I'm here to say, I'm going to rap to the beat in a rapping way. I've got a real big penis and I drink lots of tea." Unfortunately he's cut off there.
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The "My name is _________" white rap parody thing comes from the Beastie Boys. If you grew up anywhere outside of NYC or LA or whatever in that era it needs no explanation. Anyway, I'm 38 and if you wonder why all these white people - usually - about my age start raps with that, the Beastie Boys is why. I know some idiot is not going to get this and respond with, "They were being ironic." Let me cut you off before you get the idea that your point has merit - that's 100% irrelevant, so don't waste your time.
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I thought everybody was just referencing Kurtis Blow.
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"I'm Chiquita banana and I've come to say - Bananas have to ripen in a certain way" 1944 banana commercial http://chiquita.com/Our-Company/The-Chiquita-Story/The-Chiquita-Jingle.aspx
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Pretty sure the rap was done in a joking way, as if they knew it was terrible and dorky. You guys are acting like this was a legitimate attempt to get into that rap game.
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AircraftNoise posted:Pretty sure the rap was done in a joking way, as if they knew it was terrible and dorky. You guys are acting like this was a legitimate attempt to get into that rap game. Pretty much that whole article is hilarious. The thing they're pitching a fit over? Refusing to sign scheduling agreements. They're pissing the judge off before the case even gets started  quote:Collette’s fiery comments came after Brya again tried to delay a lawsuit challenging the state’s new right-to-work laws from moving forward. The hearing today was intended to be a routine scheduling conference – where attorneys agree to future hearings on the lawsuit – but it was unusually controversial, because Brya tried to halt the case.
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gently caress you mom and dad we're here to say: Japan is better than the USA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5y3NQi_RAY
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AircraftNoise posted:Pretty sure the rap was done in a joking way, as if they knew it was terrible and dorky. You guys are acting like this was a legitimate attempt to get into that rap game. The problem is, a very unhip white person attempting to do a "satire" of rap is horribly unfunny, especially if there's absolutely no edge to it and the person isn't funny to begin with. It's just excruciating. And then to have the conservative white guys sitting around the table cackle and applaud approvingly like Thurston Howell III is just... too much.
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Even if it was jokingly bad, the joke is still "Black people are stupid and rap isn't real music". That makes it worse than if it was unironic.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Even if it was jokingly bad, the joke is still "Black people are stupid and rap isn't real music". That makes it worse than if it was unironic. I think you might be thinking about it WAY too much. I think it was done in a way that was intentionally self-depreciating. Yeah, shes a dorky unfunny white woman doing a horribly cliche "My name is/and Im here to say" with absolutely terrible delivery. The other dude who said "this is the funniest thing Ive ever seen!" is a dumbass and is being hyperbolic. They have to at least act like it was funny to engage the audience. That said, in no way am I attempting to defend Fox News or its shithead pundits. I just think you guys are being overly critical and petty simply because these people are known shitheads and their politics dont mesh well with yours. This is a poor example of why they are shitheads.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Even if it was jokingly bad, the joke is still "Black people are stupid and rap isn't real music". That makes it worse than if it was unironic. Yea it's this, that's also why nerdcore and poo poo are terrible, the joke is 'ha ha I'm doing a black person music! Isn't that so zany and crazy!?' It's not the most racist thing Fox has done, hell if she's a regular reporter there I'm fairly secure saying it's not the most racist thing she's done, but it's something with a bit of racism in it.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea it's this, that's also why nerdcore and poo poo are terrible, the joke is 'ha ha I'm doing a black person music! Isn't that so zany and crazy!?' It's not the most racist thing Fox has done, hell if she's a regular reporter there I'm fairly secure saying it's not the most racist thing she's done, but it's something with a bit of racism in it. If the Cuban defector was some rock artist, and they did a parody rock song which is terrible and cliche would that also be racist? Holy poo poo man is everything racist when viewed through some 11th dimension chess monocle? How about they just did an intentionally terrible and generic rap song because the artist in question is a rap artist.
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AircraftNoise posted:If the Cuban defector was some rock artist, and they did a parody rock song which is terrible and cliche would that also be racist? Holy poo poo man is everything racist when viewed through some 11th dimension chess monocle? How about they just did an intentionally terrible and generic rap song because the artist in question is a rap artist. Did you watch the clip? They set the clip up with her saying, dripping with sarcasm, "rap is such a complex art form." The rap did not exist in a vacuum. It had context, and that context was really loving racist and painfully culturally unaware.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea it's this, that's also why nerdcore and poo poo are terrible, the joke is 'ha ha I'm doing a black person music! Isn't that so zany and crazy!?' Counterpoint: MC Frontalot.
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Not for anyone who grew up on Nas.
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snorch posted:Counterpoint: MC Frontalot. This is your counterpoint?  Like, what exactly is your counterpoint supposed to be anyways? As far as I can tell, he's never actually been involved in any meaningful way in the actual hip-hop scene, which already has nerdy people in it in the first place.
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snorch posted:Counterpoint: MC Frontalot. Counter-counter point: MC Frontalot.
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My impression from nerdcore rap music has been the guys doing it legitimately love rap as a form of expression, not that they're doing it ironically. They're nerds with pent up anger.
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Yeah, most of them are middle class white guys who unironically love rap and want to use that medium to express things they are more familiar with than the subject matter of most actual rap. So you could definitely argue that it's insensitive and appropriating to do that, and most of them are bad at it, but they aren't mocking rap, they're emulating it.
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Holy crap, I was just browsing Sean Hannity's twitter feed, and his audience has gone absolutely ballistic on Benghazi: https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/322882658784927745 The tweet had nothing to do with Benghazi by the way.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea it's this, that's also why nerdcore and poo poo are terrible, the joke is 'ha ha I'm doing a black person music! Isn't that so zany and crazy!?' It's not the most racist thing Fox has done, hell if she's a regular reporter there I'm fairly secure saying it's not the most racist thing she's done, but it's something with a bit of racism in it. This is the dumbest derail since the minorities in video games thread got shut down. If white people want to make rap music then they get to. Fullstop. Cultural appropriation is such a stupid concept to begin with and the idea of a leftist telling some kid what sort of music he is allowed to make is seriously bullshit. What is it that allows Drake to be a rapper, but not Vinnie Paz? Edit: VV Whoa you are right. drat,its too early to be seeing red 
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No one seemed nearly as upset about it as you apparently are.
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Since when is Jedi Mind Tricks nerdcore?
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Scorched Spitz posted:Since when is Jedi Mind Tricks nerdcore? It isn't, but people see White Rapper Not Named Eminem plus Star Wars Name and assume it must be.
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Mr Interweb posted:Holy crap, I was just browsing Sean Hannity's twitter feed, and his audience has gone absolutely ballistic on Benghazi: That's amazing, it's like the same three or four people calling him a sellout because they stopped reporting on Benghazi. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO COVER UP FOR OBUMMER, FOX NEWS?! 
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They created an imagined problem though. In the same year nerdcore got started a rap concept album about a space marine in a mech suit leading a proletarian revolution against an interstellar dystopian corporatist government using cyberwarfare and the power of hip-hop broke into the Billboard 200 and the Top R&B/Hip-Hop chart, and two of the three members of the group that made it were Asian. One of the biggest hip-hop groups of all time was started by a bunch of dudes who liked to get together and watch cheesy kung-fu flicks(one of them has since written, directed and starred in his own), and they're big advocates of getting kids to play chess. One of the most popular rap albums of the past year is by a middle class white dude from Seattle. And do I even need to mention "Goku"? What nerdcore and things like this Fox "rap" do is create a false perception that hip hop and rap are anti-intellectual and hostile towards anyone who isn't black. While with nerdcore it's probably more out of ignorance, with previous Fox shenanigans such as their attacks on Common, I think it's naive to talk about this as them just joking around.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:That's amazing, it's like the same three or four people calling him a sellout because they stopped reporting on Benghazi. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO COVER UP FOR OBUMMER, FOX NEWS?! I love it when they can't keep a creature they've created from nipping at their ankles.
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Mr Interweb posted:Holy crap, I was just browsing Sean Hannity's twitter feed, and his audience has gone absolutely ballistic on Benghazi: Several real human beings that live on the same planet as everyone else think motherfucking Sean Hannity is sucking up to Obama. That just blows my mind. I mean I know there's a growing number of people that think Fox News is centrist, but seriously? Princeps32 fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Apr 15, 2013 |
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I don't think that's even the first time some Fox News crazies attacked a conservative host for not talking about Benghazi (aka the Biggest Scandal Ever) enough.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:What nerdcore and things like this Fox "rap" do is create a false perception that hip hop and rap are anti-intellectual and hostile towards anyone who isn't black. While with nerdcore it's probably more out of ignorance, with previous Fox shenanigans such as their attacks on Common, I think it's naive to talk about this as them just joking around. Nerdcore doesn't do that at all so what are you even talking about. Nerdcore is literally just some 30ish white dudes rapping about nintendo games, it isn't remotely like the hokey "My name is Whatever and I'm here to say" stuff. It doesn't present itself as an alternative to hip-hop at all. They aren't claiming to solve any problem, imagined or otherwise.
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There are undoubtably white rap acts that aren't serious and might, if you're feeling particularly sensitive, be construed as offensive. Practically none of them are very popular or well known because no one who cares about it so little is going to have the dedication to the craft. Dismissing an entire genre of music on the basis of someones skin color or the content of their music is dumb as poo poo and you should feel bad about it. If it sucks come up with a better loving reason than "the only reason a white person would rap is to be ironic about not being black". It's words to a beat, if you want those words to be about nintendo, game of thrones or the planet pluto, it's all the same thing. loving Action Bronson is hot as poo poo right now and he's constantly rapping about expensive gourmet food. Yelawolf is whiter than Eminem ever was and raps about being a hillbilly and he's guesting on ASAP Rocky and Big Boi albums. You can't turn a radio to a half-way popular station without hearing a lily-white rear end in a top hat rapping about going to a Seattle thrift shop. No ones clutching their gold chains and crying that these guys are being sarcastic racists, but if it's a white person rapping about something nerdy it's a problem? And what about Deltron 3030, the quintessential nerd rap masterpiece, made by a black person? You're dumb. Stop talking about music. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Apr 15, 2013 |
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Even if it was jokingly bad, the joke is still "Black people are stupid and rap isn't real music". That makes it worse than if it was unironic. ErIog posted:Did you watch the clip? They set the clip up with her saying, dripping with sarcasm, "rap is such a complex art form." The rap did not exist in a vacuum. It had context, and that context was really loving racist and painfully culturally unaware. Yep. That sarcastic little remark was definitely the worst part. And yes it was racist as hell because those people think that only black people (and the occasional poor white guy who might as well be black anyway because he's poor) make hip-hop music.
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