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steinrokkan posted:Seen first episode, not impressed. Very generic, very uninspired, like they went with the most obvious and safest choice for every possible creative decision. Also Cavill sucks a lot and is outclassed by the animated video game character in everything including expressiveness and emotional nuance. The first episode isn't a very good representation. Episode 3 is when it really hits its stride.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Also To me this reads as much like they were trying to patch up old grievances as much as anything else. Other than Gwent I'm wondering how much CDPR even wants to do more Witcher stuff for the next few years, given that's all they did for a decade. They've hired a ton of people, sure, and will likely move to developing multiple games concurrently at some point, but they have to want more than 2 IPs.
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steinrokkan posted:Seen first episode, not impressed. Very generic, very uninspired, like they went with the most obvious and safest choice for every possible creative decision. Also Cavill sucks a lot and is outclassed by the animated video game character in everything including expressiveness and emotional nuance. Where is the mod that add's expressiveness and emotional nuance to geralt
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I dont like the disjointed timeline or the added narratives. Istredd and Yen wtf
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Jimlit posted:Where is the mod that add's expressiveness and emotional nuance to geralt Henry Cavill is playing on the Switch so he can't download nexus mods.
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stev posted:The first episode isn't a very good representation. Episode 3 is when it really hits its stride. This. I’d recommend anyone watch up to episode three. Cavill as Geralt is awesome as poo poo and I can’t see how anyone can’t find him good in the role. He’s as wooden and awkward around other people and brooding as he is in the books, and his resigned “gently caress” is a fantastic catch phrase.
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Yeah, the show absolutely gets better. The first episode is based on probably the weakest Witcher story which also makes it the weakest episode.
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I thought that the first episode was probably the best adaptation! I liked how it just starts nowhere in particular, isn't too concerned with developing its characters or having a complicated plot, and then ends abruptly. That's how most Witcher stories are because they are more about atmosphere than plot or character. The first episode absolutely nailed the moody pulp feel of the short story collection. I dislike how everything is cut together. I'd rather have a Geralt ep or a Yen ep and hold off on Ciri entirely. Episode 2 would probably have been better as a straightforward adaptation of the story The Edge of the World, which is a comedy of errors rather than a monster hunt in the book. I would have liked Yen's tragic backstory to be flashback. Basically, just adapt the thing! I don't think we needed all this character backstory. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Dec 21, 2019 |
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Dec 21, 2019 20:27
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I think jumping around on timelines is a little iffy and is going to result in some confusion for people who aren't familiar with any of the source material, but I've watched the first three episodes and am liking it so far.
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Yeah as a fan I also have mixed feelings. Some of it's really good, some of it is iffy, a lot of it is dragged down by questionable editing choices.
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I'm on episode 6 and I really dig it. I have no history with the books so I can't comment. You can see the budget constraints in some of the effects but otherwise I've enjoyed it quite a bit so far. Are there any good mods that change the skill tree in a fun and interesting way? I never liked how you have to spend X amount of points in a tree in order to unlock further skills in it. Unless that changed that, I haven't played this since the first DLC came out.
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So far I don’t see the complaints with the CGI in the show. It’s on par with the first two seasons of GoT, which is pretty good considering. Hopefully the show blows up and gets big so they can make the really good poo poo like Ciri on ice-skates come to life.
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I think the problem with the first episode is that, unless I missed it, the crucial part of the plot explaining what's about to happen in the marketplace and why just isn't explained.
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Alchenar posted:I think the problem with the first episode is that, unless I missed it, the crucial part of the plot explaining what's about to happen in the marketplace and why just isn't explained. She tells him she's gonna leave town tomorrow, he wakes up and she's gone, has some vision and realizes whats happening.
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pik_d posted:She tells him she's gonna leave town tomorrow, he wakes up and she's gone, has some vision and realizes whats happening. His realisation is just 'the marketplace'. But it's not clear at all why that's important. The book explains the very specific motivation to shame Stregobor out of his tower that's only visible here if you've read it.
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Alchenar posted:His realisation is just 'the marketplace'. But it's not clear at all why that's important. The book explains the very specific motivation to shame Stregobor out of his tower that's only visible here if you've read it. I just finished the ep and I haven’t read the books and yeah, I didn’t get it. Overall enjoyed it. I don’t think it comes off as competing to fill the shoes of Game of Thrones at all.
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Alchenar posted:His realisation is just 'the marketplace'. But it's not clear at all why that's important. The book explains the very specific motivation to shame Stregobor out of his tower that's only visible here if you've read it.
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show is awesome, first two eps left me confused on stuff, since i've read the books but i think i got it figured out now. started episode 3 saw the sign for temeria "land of monsters and cowardly kings" which made me legit shout out "he aint a coward and he aint no duck neither" never actually watched an adaption of a book series after actually reading the book (unless it was a comic book naturally) and so far its been iunderstoodthatreference.gif digging cavils doug cockle impression tho, the voice was my main fear and im glad hes going all in.
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Yeah she does say it but I think it could have been helped had they somehow worked in the plan pre-butchering to give the audience a more clear understanding that this lady is absolutely going to murder the gently caress out of people one by one until he comes out and has the muscle to do it (I haven't read the books but that was my take on it).
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I'm on episode 5 now. The dialogue probably could have used another editing pass. There are anachronisms like Yennifer saying "off the grid" that don't make sense.
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The Witcher has always been full of language anachronisms though, unless you expect 13th century people to have a modern day understanding of cellular biology. Did Yennefer actually kill her classmates when she tossed them in the pool as eels or was Tissaia just holding them prisoner in that shape?
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Alchenar posted:His realisation is just 'the marketplace'. But it's not clear at all why that's important. The book explains the very specific motivation to shame Stregobor out of his tower that's only visible here if you've read it. Yea the whole “Tridam ultimatum” is left out and no one got to see Geralt kill those men in seconds. It’s a change I didn’t understand or care for.
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The change so that Stregobor turned the crowd on Geralt when he became inconvenient was an okay change considering Geralt didn't have an audience to witness his massacre.
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Arcsquad12 posted:The Witcher has always been full of language anachronisms though, unless you expect 13th century people to have a modern day understanding of cellular biology. As I understood it, they’re not dead, but “living conduits” of magical energy yada yada Aretuza magic school. Edit: some of the CGI and creature design choices in episode 7 are a bit...hmmmmm. chaosapiant fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Dec 21, 2019 |
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Aretuza seems nightmarish and I don't believe Yen would hand Ciri over to a lady who turns students into eels.
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So Dandelion is the best part of the show, huh? Because I think he might be an improvement over the books.
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Season was overall pretty drat good, but Something More really needed Sword of Destiny to land properly. I'd have definitely gone with expanding the Dryad story so Geralt met Ciri when she was younger, rather than psycho doppler and the plot thread to nowhere. Sodden Hill wasn't done all that well. The show set it up like the Battle of Kaer Morhen in Witcher 3, but that's a video game level and not a cinematic battle. They really needed more than just Foltest marching into frame and then ending. Sodden was a massacre that checked Nilfgaard so badly that they switched tactics from frontal assaults to political coups (followed by frontal assaults), and I'd love to see that onscreen. The Last Kingdom remains the best portrayal of formation army fighting on television, and I'd love to see Brenna done full justice if the show ever makes it that far.
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Arcsquad12 posted:The Witcher has always been full of language anachronisms though, unless you expect 13th century people to have a modern day understanding of cellular biology. Actually yes, the people of the Witcher universe do have an understanding of genetics and biology that is well beyond the expected level.
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Norton the First posted:So Dandelion is the best part of the show, huh? Because I think he might be an improvement over the books. Jaskier/Dandelion is loving awesome in the show. There’s a couple of moments where he’s kind of a bumbling fool, and instead I picture him as having a way with women, but overall he has this sing-song tone to his voice that is always plucking at Geralt’s last nerve.
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chaosapiant posted:Jaskier/Dandelion is loving awesome in the show. There’s a couple of moments where he’s kind of a bumbling fool, and instead I picture him as having a way with women, but overall he has this sing-song tone to his voice that is always plucking at Geralt’s last nerve. Pretty sure Dandelion being a goddamn idiot is canon.
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steinrokkan posted:Actually yes, the people of the Witcher universe do have an understanding of genetics and biology that is well beyond the expected level. I mean yes the people of the Witcher setting do have that level of understanding. He was saying that it's anachronistic to the rest of the setting but Witcher is full of intentional anachronisms. It's part of the world's charm that everyone talks like they're in the 20th century when it's 1268. Anachronisms only stand out to the audience unless a story is getting meta.
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The only really bad thing about the Witcher show is that Henry Cavill isn't playing Beard Geralt because Beard Geralt is canon even though it doesn't make sense in the timeline of the show
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Norton the First posted:Pretty sure Dandelion being a goddamn idiot is canon. He’s always an idiot, but he’s also got (somehow) the ability to charm the pants off of ladies constantly.
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Danfelion's key is he's not picky. He's boomhauer with a singing voice.
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Also he is at core a decent and unthreatening person. His flings could do a lot worse. And most importantly, he's famous.
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It's a shame that he wasn't in the last episode. He and Geralt have a lot of making up to do after Geralt ripped into him on the mountaintop.
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Geralt being both brooding and a bit of a dick who constantly puts his foot in his mouth is spot on.
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I kinda hope the next game in the witcher series takes places a decade+ after Blood and Wine, and deals with/parodies 'modern fandom'. Horny noblewomen writing Geralt/Dandelion slashfic and selling it, painters making grand murals trying to depict the final battle between Geralt and the King of the Wild Hunt. Young men/women from Skellige named after Geralt or his friends, etc.
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A Witcher making his trade during the Wars of the Unicorn in Kaedwen could be neat.
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I’m thinking a potential Witcher 4 will have you make your own character; so a prequel makes sense when there are a lot more Witchers in the world.
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