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FactsAreUseless posted:Why? Doesn't parry reduce uh... damage you take? Or something? It never comes up for SCH. Feint has nothing to do with parry. You're thinking of Keen Flurry.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Why? Doesn't parry reduce uh... damage you take? Or something? It never comes up for SCH. Feint is the weaponskill that applies a slow to your target. Keen Flurry (the parry ability) is also highly situational at best for the same reason it never comes up for SCH: why are you taking damage in the first place?
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FactsAreUseless posted:Why? Doesn't parry reduce uh... damage you take? Or something? It never comes up for SCH. Feint doesn't have anything to do with parry. That's keen flurry and it's great. Feint is a GCD skill that lancers get that puts a 20 second slow on an enemy. It is only useful ever for a dragoon in PVP and even then has limited use. Its primary use is as a cross class for bard and mch because you can move while using it under WM or guass barrel.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Why? Doesn't parry reduce uh... damage you take? Or something? It never comes up for SCH. Feint applies a slow debuff with a really weak attack, but the slow debuff is useless at best and actively makes things worse for your tank at worst.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Why? Doesn't parry reduce uh... damage you take? Or something? It never comes up for SCH. Parry ups the chance you parry which always is a20% damage reduction and only procs on physical hits. It's currently real bad outside of guaranteed parrying (raw intuition) cause it's very unreliable
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Nov 14, 2016 02:09
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Yeah, every job can parry but the chance is super low outside of Raw Intuition. PLD block ability works a lot better but doesn't reduce as much damage, so again, not worth relying on.
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I've come to the conclusion that everyone that plays a male au ra is really bad at this game regardless of what job they are playing.
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slev posted:I've come to the conclusion that everyone is really bad at this game regardless of what job they are playing.
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Nov 14, 2016 02:36
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Checks out.
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slev posted:I've come to the conclusion that everyone that plays a male au ra is really bad at this game regardless of what job they are playing. same but female miqote, au ra, and roedygan
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TooManyUzukis posted:Feint has nothing to do with parry. You're thinking of Keen Flurry. Faint is fine on your 5th slot Cross class skill as bard/mch since you've got nothing else to take and it is instant cast even with Minuet/Gauss up.
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kojei posted:Keen Flurry (the parry ability) is also highly situational at best for the same reason it never comes up for SCH: why are you taking damage in the first place? Because one of the tanks was stupid and exploded and isn't alive to take his party-eating mechanic. Really though, Keen Flurry has a niche for when you're down a tank, either because they died or aren't there to begin with (i.e. during speedruns that drop a tank spot in favor of a DPS) and you need someone to take their mechanic. A bold DRG actually saved one of my pre-3.3 Sephirot runs after the MT blew up by soaking his Fiendish Wail (a.k.a. physical Conviction) tower, popping Keen Flurry and Foresight to survive. ...Though you're hosed if the damage is magic-based. I'm not sure if there's a magic-based equivalent of Foresight that isn't restricted to tanks. SL the Pyro fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Nov 14, 2016 04:05
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Keen Flurry used to be crazy good for dragoons and monks in ARR, because strength used to increase the damage reduction from parrying.
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Its still good for any telegraphed physical attack like earthshakers.
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SL the Pyro posted:...Though you're hosed if the damage is magic-based. I'm not sure if there's a magic-based equivalent of Foresight that isn't restricted to tanks. Nothing you can do personally, but other classes can use their specific buffs/debuffs on you/the boss; Apocatastasis, Supervirus, Disable, Rend Mind.
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Nov 14, 2016 04:51
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Whoever bought me an av ilu
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Nov 14, 2016 05:48
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seiferguy posted:Whoever bought me an av ilu {same}
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seiferguy posted:Whoever bought me an av ilu 
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Nov 14, 2016 05:56
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Black mages can get a 30% shield with Manaward, which might be enough depending on the mechanic.
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Feint used to be one of the best skills in PvP, but got nerfed heavily so it's only okay now. There were some spit ball ideas for using Feint against some of the Bennus when they spawn in T12 to make it easier on the OT, but it's probably worse than not messing up your rotation so you can have less Bennus overall. Keen Flurry will probably be reworked with the parry stat rework/cross class rework coming in Stormblood. I mean, traited Keen Flurry with Dragoon is pretty close to Raw Intuition without the auto-crit penalty, but that last 20% could be a problem. Was particularly relevant IMO in T9, letting healers derp a little bit if you were targeted by double meteor stream and were able to parry one of them (like Ninja or BLM could straight up ignore several). The magic based equivalent of Foresight is Fey Covenant, as in, it's a 20% increase to your magical defense stat for 20 seconds. Same cooldown too if it's not traited.
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seiferguy posted:Whoever bought me an av ilu  
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You guys I changed from a boy catgirl to a dragon girl and all of my healer gear looks so much better.
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vOv posted:Black mages can get a 30% shield with Manaward, which might be enough depending on the mechanic. Manaward/Manawall is great for dealing with prey mechanics. In A11 you can ignore the first of the three hits, meaning the healer doesn't need to frantically smash the panic button as you'll still have a good chunk of health. Same with A12, where you'll be hit but you won't loose half your health in a single hit. Giving the healers more time to DPS a bit.
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So, when leveling an alt from 50-59, I'm assuming an augmented IW weapon will last through to 60 barring some lucky weapon drop in the Vault or Gubal NM?
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Nov 14, 2016 12:55
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Augmented IW weapon will last you until about 56.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Augmented IW weapon will last you until about 56. Alright, thanks.
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 Oh my god you poor bastards had to put up with this in XI
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Augmented IW weapon will last you until about 56. It's superseded at 56 but you can certainly go to 60 with an i130 weapon. The normal quality crafted i150 weapons have slightly less weapon damage than augmented ironworks so you'd still be within the intended gearing for all HW leveling dungeons. It'd be a pain in the rear end to heal or tank the vault or gubal normal (and who ever is playing the other role will want to kill you) but you're not actually as far behind the gear curve as you might think.
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I ran a vault a couple days ago as an AST with an i130 Ironworks weapon. There's definitely more healing required because basic heals were barely giving the tank anything. Almost felt like cleric stance was on. It meant less time to spam gravity 
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Mordiceius posted:She's a psychology grad student focusing primarily on with people with autism. Talk about taking your work home.
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Save burns for bosses plz
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seiferguy posted:I ran a vault a couple days ago as an AST with an i130 Ironworks weapon. There's definitely more healing required because basic heals were barely giving the tank anything. Almost felt like cleric stance was on. Dreadwyrm and zeta relics do ok on the vault. I'd say by library you should upgrade for sure though.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Dreadwyrm and zeta relics do ok on the vault. I'd say by library you should upgrade for sure though. Yeah, around level 56 or 58 the NQ leveling weapons will have higher weapon damage than i135 weapons from before the expansion, so that is the time to pick one up. Only needing to buy one vendor weapon between level 50 and 60 (and a freebie for your first job thanks to quests) isn't that bad of a deal really. Thundarr fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Thundarr posted:Yeah, around level 56 or 58 the NQ leveling weapons will have higher weapon damage than i135 weapons from before the expansion, so that is the time to pick one up. Only needing to buy one vendor weapon between level 50 and 60 (and a freebie for your first job thanks to quests) isn't that bad of a deal really. Normal quality 145 doesn't even have the weapon damage of the poetic weapon (53 for NQ i145 adamantite broadsword vs 57 for upgraded ironworks sword). Dreadwyrm & Zeta are effectively identical to the weapon drops from The Aery (58 weapon damage) which are meant to be good enough to clear the vault. Vault and crafted 139-145 items all have 59 WD and the library drops and crafted i150 all have 60 WD. A normal quality Adamantite Winglet (i145) has weapon damage of 54 (same as i120 ironworks). Basically never buy white weapons and always get someone to craft you an HQ one.
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I haven't played this in a while, but I surprisingly can't find an answer to a point of curiosity for me: How does the Alexander storyline finish? I did up to Midas before I quit and it seemed like Quickthinx Allthoughts had the ultimate trump card. Does anyone feel like throwing some spoilers my way?
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I've convinced a friend to play this after they got disillusioned from WoW, what are some newbie tips I can suggest to them that I may not have thought of myself? Stuff we know now but wish we'd known at the start when everything was fresh and new.
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you can get to waking sands much faster by going to limsa, arcanist guild, and taking the boat
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Mr. Nice! posted:Normal quality 145 doesn't even have the weapon damage of the poetic weapon (53 for NQ i145 adamantite broadsword vs 57 for upgraded ironworks sword). Maybe I was thinking of HQs. I remember using the quest reward weapon at 58 because it was finally better than my zeta claws. I guess it's been so long that I forgot the quests don't give you NQ items. 
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Thundarr posted:Maybe I was thinking of HQs. I remember using the quest reward weapon at 58 because it was finally better than my zeta claws. I guess it's been so long that I forgot the quests don't give you NQ items. Yeah the heavensward quests give HQ. The vendor whites are better than the lower ilevel stuff only because of substats, but aren't really worth spending money on unless you just want them for glamor.
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Verranicus posted:I've convinced a friend to play this after they got disillusioned from WoW, what are some newbie tips I can suggest to them that I may not have thought of myself? Stuff we know now but wish we'd known at the start when everything was fresh and new. ilifinicus posted:you can get to waking sands much faster by going to limsa, arcanist guild, and taking the boat sweet baby jesus tell them this oh my god also you can click on aetherytes on the map to teleport to them instead of having to navigate the menu
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