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Tai Po is hardly Manhattan. it's pretty much the Queens or even New Jersey here. The price is insane.
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hailthefish posted:Exactly. It's hardly the first time that nationalist sentiments have been whipped up to distract from internal problems despite being aware of potentially deleterious long-term consequences. In fact "whipping up nationalist sentiments to distract from internal problems despite being aware of potentially deleterious long-term consequences" is pretty much the20thcentury.txt in its most simple form. Do east Asian countries still go to war for nationalistic sentiments? I can see they go to border clash to fight for resource control only.
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Jul 22, 2014 03:39
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whatever7 posted:Do east Asian countries still go to war for nationalistic sentiments? I can see they go to border clash to fight for resource control only. There are only three east asian countries, what do you mean 'do they still go to war'? Isn't that the entire point of this discussion?
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Jul 22, 2014 03:45
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Taiwan, North Korea, and what's the third? e: Oh right, Mongolia.
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Jul 22, 2014 03:49
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icantfindaname posted:There are only three east asian countries, what do you mean 'do they still go to war'? Isn't that the entire point of this discussion? I am counting the both east and Southeast Asia countries. No I don't think China Japan Korea and other SE Asian countries will go to war for pure emotional reason. I am counting in Vietnam too. Wait I forgot Crazy kim, I supposed North Korea can go to limited war to keep the regime alive.
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Jul 22, 2014 03:53
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Preemptively telling you lads to start a N Korea thread if you want to discuss it.
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Jul 22, 2014 03:55
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Well I tried. I brought up plenty of other things to talk about.
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Jul 22, 2014 06:20
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Your things were dumb. Let's talk about land reclamation.
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Jul 22, 2014 06:28
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Bloodnose posted:Your things were dumb. Let's talk about land reclamation. Agreed. China needs to reclaim the land stolen from them by the foreign devils.
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Jul 22, 2014 06:31
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Fojar38 posted:Agreed. China needs to reclaim the land stolen from them by the foreign devils. So that would include - Korea - Taiwan - Mongolia - Tibet - Nepal - The islands Anything else?
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Jul 22, 2014 07:01
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Ancient Chinese texts talk about the moon a lot. The moon is probably integral Chinese territory.
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Jul 22, 2014 07:04
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Bloodnose posted:Ancient Chinese texts talk about the moon a lot. The moon is probably integral Chinese territory. Not if it secretly doesn't exist! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdtNsfHGgU0
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Jul 22, 2014 07:06
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Jul 22, 2014 07:14
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pentyne posted:So that would include Zheng He sailed to East Africa so throw in Somalia.
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Jul 22, 2014 07:48
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hailthefish posted:Exactly. It's hardly the first time that nationalist sentiments have been whipped up to distract from internal problems despite being aware of potentially deleterious long-term consequences. In fact "whipping up nationalist sentiments to distract from internal problems despite being aware of potentially deleterious long-term consequences" is pretty much the20thcentury.txt in its most simple form. If you consider what politicians are doing all over the world right now it is the21stcentury.txt as well. gently caress.
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Jul 22, 2014 07:54
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Fojar38 posted:Zheng He sailed to East Africa so throw in Somalia. Also throw in put in all of SE Asia, bring back any country that had overseas Chinese prior to contact with the west. Actually, scratch that, just bring back every country with overseas Chinese.
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Jul 22, 2014 08:14
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The Chinese invented gunpowder. Guns were used to conquer North and South America, ergo these places belong to China.
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Jul 22, 2014 08:19
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Seriously though, it's time for mapchat.
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Jul 22, 2014 08:21
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Imagine nine dashes on a map....
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Jul 22, 2014 08:22
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computer parts posted:Not if it secretly doesn't exist! I don't want to watch 25 minutes of crazy talk, but this is killing me not knowing. Why would you fake the moon? How would you do it? Aren't there old photos of the moon that were taken before it would have been possible to fake it? What does he think about the moon's existence in historical accounts? Are other celestial bodies fake? Wouldn't people be suspicious if there was suddenly a big glowy thing in the night sky that hadn't been there before? The mind boggles.
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Jul 22, 2014 08:40
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synertia posted:Imagine nine dashes on a map.... ... then kill yourself.
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Jul 22, 2014 09:26
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Imagine 9 dots in our solar system. Those are all Chinese territory. Even Pluto.
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Jul 22, 2014 10:31
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Japan's gameplan wouldn't be to hold the Diaoyu Islands. It would be an economic blockade. There is a reasons why the US doesn't have long range Ballistic missiles. They are expensive for what they do and are indistinguishable from a nuclear launch. That is why the game 2nd Artillery is playing is so dangerous. Japan also doesn't need to strike mainland China when the US can do so with impunity with the B2. See how long China lasts without electricity. Ballistic missiles don't have the same level of accuracy and can be shot down. If China foolishly went after nuclear power plants, they might as well fire the real thing. Considering Japan's stance, in such a war China would most certainly be the aggressor. Even if they take the islands, the blow back after would make it a pyrrhic victory. I bet they would go all 9 dotted lines on the galaxy given the chance. "We have 5000 years of continued civilisation so we saw and claimed the stars first, here some dotted lines of what they saw so it is all ours now". I get they want to disrupt the status quo, but they are doing it so poorly they end up reinforcing it.
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Jul 22, 2014 11:02
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Jul 22, 2014 11:12
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Don't worry, It happens.
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Jul 22, 2014 11:18
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If Japan rolls a criticall miss China has a chance of winning. If they have min-maxed their stats properly. But that's likely a given. Fourth edition has been out for a while fter all.
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Jul 22, 2014 11:23
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This is amusing http://www.filipinoexpress.com/news/1551-german-chancellor-presents-china-a-historical-map-showing-different-terrrial-boarders quote:German Chancellor Angela Merkel presented Chinese Xi Jinping with a historical map that contradicts its own claim of territory in history, eliciting a stir and confusion among Chinese netizens.During a visit by Xi to Germany, Merkel gave the Chinese leader the 1735 map of China made by French cartographer Jean-Baptiste Bourguignon d’Anville and printed by a German publishing house. Hey, here's a 300 year old map that Europeans thought was accurate at the time, isn't history fascinating? HOW DARE YOU DENY US OUR RIGHTFUL LAND YOU SCHEMING FOREIGNER
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Jul 22, 2014 17:00
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Sneaky Germans... time to hack the BMW servers!
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Jul 22, 2014 17:07
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Welcome to our province that has always been an inalienable part of China, which we have named New Frontier.
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Jul 22, 2014 17:10
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paragon1 posted:The Chinese invented gunpowder. Guns were used to conquer North and South America, ergo these places belong to China. The Qin Emperor fought to unite "All under the heavens" therefore the entire world is Chinese.
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Jul 22, 2014 17:15
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What a beautiful troll from Merkel. 
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Jul 22, 2014 17:29
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The second artillery corps sounds badass, they should be renamed the Houyi corps after the equally badass archer.
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Jul 22, 2014 17:48
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B-but it's so hard being white! Waaaaaagh!
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pentyne posted:This is amusing She should have just given him a toy button with misspelled pinyin written on it.
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Jul 22, 2014 17:55
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I'm just going to leave this here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zunghar_Genocide
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Jul 22, 2014 18:07
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That map isn't necessarily completely accurate anyway. I'm pretty sure Taiwan was a part of the empire by 1735, and Hainan before that.
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Jul 22, 2014 18:16
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oohhboy posted:What a beautiful troll from Merkel. I hope it was intentional.
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Jul 22, 2014 18:17
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MeramJert posted:That map isn't necessarily completely accurate anyway. I'm pretty sure Taiwan was a part of the empire by 1735, and Hainan before that. The map is only as accurate as the Jesuit missionaries thought it was. That seems to be the point, it was a incomplete map that Europeans thought was complete, and is a historical curiosity. No one in the German government honestly thought "This was China's defined boundaries in the 1700s" but rather "Here's a relic from our shared history" China's dogmatic approach to education and information has led to people getting super upset over it because they can't view it in any other context then "an affront to China"
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Jul 22, 2014 18:31
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You have hurt the feelings of the Chinese people.
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China is super weird about its borders and history. I don't know why they need to create a false history going back centuries to excuse their current borders. Countries grow, shink, fracture, it's normal. Why does china need this idea that it's borders and national identity were set in stone the moment the earth began to form from cosmic dust? It's like if France had conquered and held europe back in Napoleonic times and then claimed europe was and always will be a united civilization with set borders and used that time 200 years previously when the germans had sort of conquered europe as evidence that "europe" is a country and "france" and "denmark" are just provinces within and all those previous great european wars were in fact internal civil wars over leadership of the great nation of europe. Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Baronjutter posted:China is super weird about its borders and history. I don't know why they need to create a false history going back centuries to excuse their current borders. Countries grow, shink, fracture, it's normal. Why does china need this idea that it's borders and national identity were set in stone the moment the earth began to form from cosmic dust? Because their land (including the stuff that actually was part of China for thousands of years) was almost divided up in a colonialist squabble. Apparently there's actually a strong contingent of people who believe in the PRC solely because they think an authoritarian state is the only thing that can keep China together.
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