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Maybe it's bad because it doesn't shatter the block and send her broken corpse reeling like it ought to?
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thexerox123 posted:Why would that be a stupid change? alright, let's assume this is intentional. better start making changes across the board to make things more consistent because it would be really weird if only doomfist can do this. rein can charge her now, orisa can halt her, junkrat/pharah explosives can bump her around a bit, roadhog can hook her now, etc. oops, we just nerfed mei for no reason when she isn't even that good to begin with when she uses an already not-great move
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thexerox123 posted:Why would that be a stupid change? She's already one of the weaker characters and one thing people generally agree she's good at is stalling, which this would completely ruin. It also makes things weird and inconsistent, Doomfist can't affect immobile objects like bastion or Orisa using fortify, but he can totally punch Mei away?
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Wrist Watch posted:Doomfist can't affect immobile objects like bastion or Orisa using fortify, but he can totally punch Mei away? People are saying a fully charged punch can knock Bastion out of sentry mode on PTR, like how Reinhardt can charge him out. Punching Mei iceblocks might be an unexpected side effect.
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Kaubocks posted:alright, let's assume this is intentional. better start making changes across the board to make things more consistent because it would be really weird if only doomfist can do this. rein can charge her now, orisa can halt her, junkrat/pharah explosives can bump her around a bit, roadhog can hook her now, etc. You can totally justify some bullshit reason about why the supervillain robot armed punching man can punch the immobile block of ice but not those other characters
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Nah, coming up with that kind of lore-based reasoning for gameplay isn't a good idea. There need to be consistent mechanical rules-- ie, a character/object is either in an "immovable" state or it isn't.
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Suspicious Cook posted:People are saying a fully charged punch can knock Bastion out of sentry mode on PTR, like how Reinhardt can charge him out. Punching Mei iceblocks might be an unexpected side effect. If true, while I appreciate the consistency, I'm really not liking this new method of balancing characters by creating weird interactions between the low tiers. Mei cleansing Ana's nade with cryo is pretty unnecessary too, imo Like, it's useful but there are so many other changes they could look at and they choose this?
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Supercar Gautier posted:Nah, coming up with that kind of lore-based reasoning for gameplay isn't a good idea. There need to be consistent mechanical rules-- ie, a character/object is either in an "immovable" state or it isn't. So they should change how Bastion's sentry mode can already be effected differently by different characters too?
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thexerox123 posted:So they should change how Bastion's sentry mode can already be effected differently by different characters too? Might be a good idea. If asking "Which abilities can move which objects/characters?" gives you a wonky venn diagram, that may indicate a need to unify those rules and get everything in line.
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Supercar Gautier posted:Might be a good idea. If asking "Which abilities can move which objects/characters?" gives you a wonky venn diagram, that may indicate a need to unify those rules and get everything in line. Or you can just play the game and get used to it instead of making diagrams about it.
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Wrist Watch posted:Mei cleansing Ana's nade with cryo is pretty unnecessary too, imo This is more consistent though, because all other immunity effects clear the debuff.
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Wrist Watch posted:https://streamable.com/a28py Does Doomfist have infinite shotgun fist ammo on the PTR, or is it just because that's a custom crosshair that it hides the ammo? Edit: just noticed the cracked, frozen ground effect remains at the initial location and disappears when she breaks out.
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Doomfist arguably has more bad matchups than Mei and even worse teamplay capability. Moving an ice blocked Mei isn't that big of a deal as long as she's still invincible/healing. It'll just be hilarious in the edge cases where he knocks her frozen rock into a pit. This is in contrast to before where if Doomfist hits an ice blocked Mei, he'll probably die since she can instantly unblock and freeze him. But I also believe Mei needs a buff too, either more m1 damage, or a faster m2 at least
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Ravenfood posted:The only time I suicided I just got teleported back to the cave. You have to do it 4 timesn and you have a very short window to time your boost cooldown; otherwise if you take too long, one of the Mei's will see youu make your final jump. It's more fun when they're marching towards the cave, they see "The yeti has returned to the cave", then "NO!! No I shall not be bound by my shackles!! I SHALL BE FREEEEEEEEE!" in text, and then "VICTORY".
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Just had a thought: does Doomfist have the same weird interaction with Mei's ice walls that Rein's charge has?Guigui posted:You have to do it 4 timesn and you have a very short window to time your boost cooldown; otherwise if you take too long, one of the Mei's will see youu make your final jump. brb totally gonna go do this
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I had a game like that last night. The Yeti jumped off and then quit and the Meis got a defeat. I wonder what the conditions are. The POTG was a hilarious shot of all of us running out of spawn and doing nothing.
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other than that its a fast weekly lootbox generator, the mode sucks really bad
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Nullsmack posted:I had a game like that last night. The Yeti jumped off and then quit and the Meis got a defeat. I wonder what the conditions are. The POTG was a hilarious shot of all of us running out of spawn and doing nothing. If the yeti quits the game, Meis get defeat. If the yeti jumps off and dies, Meis get victory.
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Was pretty happy with this Hog POTG, felt like an advert for his abilities, interrupt Rein trying to ult, whole hog a squishy, throw a crazy hook, then erase Soldier with a right click https://gfycat.com/WeakCapitalDanishswedishfarmdog Also re: Mei poo poo, it's cool they try these new event modes but you can see they are hitting the limits of their own engine because they are really bad generally
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EMC posted:Was pretty happy with this Hog POTG, felt like an advert for his abilities, interrupt Rein trying to ult, whole hog a squishy, throw a crazy hook, then erase Soldier with a right click I think the biggest problem is they keep trying to make every event a knock-off of a WoW raid or boss fight. Maybe try some game modes actually designed for shooters?
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I think the solution for Mei is to let her move faster by shooting the ground in front of her
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Armacham posted:I think the biggest problem is they keep trying to make every event a knock-off of a WoW raid or boss fight. Maybe try some game modes actually designed for shooters? let me tell you about the first person shooter video game Evolve
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Dec 14, 2017 23:43
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All those Doomfist event unlocks are pretty nice, they really went all out on him after five months of not much.
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why do they hate doomfist so much
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Jeff said there will be more fixes for him in January.
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Supercar Gautier posted:Nah, coming up with that kind of lore-based reasoning for gameplay isn't a good idea. There need to be consistent mechanical rules-- ie, a character/object is either in an "immovable" state or it isn't. And shaman cant use swords because 'lore' 
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turtlecrunch posted:Jeff said there will be more fixes for him in January.  Fixes Doomfist needs some type of damage mitigation from the front while fisting. It's too easy to damage him while he's charging at you considering how much noise he makes.
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I like the yeti mode even if I really suck as Winston in it
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 I played badly enough that the game had to make a new worst place just for me
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Thor-Stryker posted:
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I don't think he needs damage reduction at any point. they just need to fix his stupid garbage hitbox
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Doomfist charging into my trap as Junkrat is the best. Especially if he’s low enough on health the trap itself kills him
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Thor-Stryker posted:
I never hear a Hanzo split one-shot coming, make that bitch noisy as well
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People don't like the Snowball game? This is my first winter with Overwatch and I actually like it a lot, thought maybe that's just because I've been on winning teams regardless of how I do. It's fun and usually quick. Though I'm having a bit of trouble with the achievement for hitting someone from 25 yards. I've hit people from a fair distance, but apparently not enough. I thought the one for hitting 3 people in a game as they reload would be harder, since most people are cogent enough to wait until they're safe, but it got it. Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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Armacham posted:I think the biggest problem is they keep trying to make every event a knock-off of a WoW raid or boss fight. Maybe try some game modes actually designed for shooters? Uprising was awesome, though.
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Dr Christmas posted:People don't like the Snowball game? This is my first winter with Overwatch and I actually like it a lot, thought maybe that's just because I've been on winning teams regardless of how I do. It's fun and usually quick. If you're not spamming the "A-mei-zing" voice line throughout the match you're playing it wrong. Maybe one or two "Sorry, sorry, I'm sorry, sorry" if you just hosed it up for your team.
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SpaceCommie posted:If you're not spamming the "A-mei-zing" voice line throughout the match you're playing it wrong. Oh god you are the worst thing about the drat mode.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Oh god you are the worst thing about the drat mode. Sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm sorry, sorry
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I was only trying to help!
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