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Godholio posted:They're literally talking about building something that's going to weigh several thousand pounds more than a Huey to have 3-6x the range of a Huey. Where are you getting the weight from? You are just dead set to pan this thing and apparently have 0 experience reading RFPs. The electronics are all fielded on another UAS that are in service within the Marines, albeit in various configurations. They want to consolidate the electronics and missions to 1 platform instead of 3. To compensate they are allowing the airframe to grow basically >2x in every dimension. As they now have a larger vehicle they want a more powerful engine and also with the larger volume a higher fuel capacity. The airspeed requested is less than other fielded rotary winged craft in service. Yes, the range is much greater but also, no people on board, no people support systems, no tons of other crap. It's basically an AH-1Z stripped down to just an electronics package stripped out of 3 other vehicles with extra fuel stores and unmanned. It's hardly an affront to common decency and the primacy of the USAF.
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Nucken Futz posted:Is there any questions I should be asking this very nice man? Not specifically, but if he tells you any stories...
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An interesting article on the current condition of Pilots in the US AirForce https://www.jqpublicblog.com/punching-out-latest-dear-boss-letter-decries-air-forces-lack-of-true-leadership/
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Nucken Futz posted:I was talking to this old dude after our football (soccer) kick-around today, he's in his late 70's I guess, maybe in his early 80's. Anyways, he's telling me that he's originally from the old Czechoslovakia and that he was in their Air force. Does the MiG-15 try to kill you every moment from strapping in to opening the canopy like the MiG-21 does?
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MrYenko posted:Does the MiG-15 try to kill you every moment from strapping in to opening the canopy like the MiG-21 does? Maybe not quite as much, but when Yeager flew one for evaluation, he noted that at the edge it was way more unforgiving of a screwup than the Saber.
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Murgos posted:Where are you getting the weight from? You are just dead set to pan this thing and apparently have 0 experience reading RFPs. Because I'm a former radar guy and now I work on an EW range and we actually had Fire Scouts here testing some poo poo out a few weeks back. You're drat right I'm dead set to pan this thing. They're asking to load hardware on a Bell 407 that typically takes a large fixed-wing platform to carry, and to have it do so while getting magician-levels of loiter time. I know how big that EW pod is. I know how big the radar they want to fit on here is. I can make an educated guess how much electrical power this platform is going to need, and they are loving bonkers. Edit: Also, it's to support mission sets the USMC frankly has no business claiming. Certainly not from their minicarriers. Godholio fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Mar 16, 2018 |
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Nucken Futz posted:I was talking to this old dude after our football (soccer) kick-around today, he's in his late 70's I guess, maybe in his early 80's. Anyways, he's telling me that he's originally from the old Czechoslovakia and that he was in their Air force. With the cramped cockpits in the early jet fighters how did they manage to fit in his giant loving balls?
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Godholio posted:Because I'm a former radar guy and now I work on an EW range and we actually had Fire Scouts here testing some poo poo out a few weeks back. You're drat right I'm dead set to pan this thing. Getting the required loiter times at the combat radius they specify with an unmanned VTOL aircraft with absolutely ZERO PAYLOAD would be a loving accomplishment. The full RFP requirements are a fever dream.
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MrYenko posted:Getting the required loiter times at the combat radius they specify with an unmanned VTOL aircraft with absolutely ZERO PAYLOAD would be a loving accomplishment. The full RFP requirements are a fever dream. They have successfully hijacked an entire fighter program from the Navy, Air Force, 5 eyes nations and NATO. Who wouldn't be a little ballsy in their shoes? Chiwie fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Mar 16, 2018 |
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Forget the radar and suchlike, just getting a helicopter, any helicopter, to have a combat radius of 350nmi at 300 knots is absurd. Even V-22s fly 275 knots and have a combat radius of 390nmi. No conventional helicopter can do something like that. e: beaten Mortabis fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Mar 16, 2018 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:
this is from a few pages ago, but what if I told you it could be both at the same time? https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Poutine
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bennyfactor posted:this is from a few pages ago, but what if I told you it could be both at the same time? The French pronunciation of "Putin" would sound like a French word for "whore", so yeah, in French you want the transliteration of Путин that looks like Canadian food.
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Godholio posted:Because I'm a former radar guy and now I work on an EW range and we actually had Fire Scouts here testing some poo poo out a few weeks back. You're drat right I'm dead set to pan this thing. Install a tiny nuclear reactor!
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Install a tiny nuclear reactor! Project Puto 
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Arglebargle III posted:So apparently McMaster came out as a hawk on Russia today and coincidentally McMaster is being fired. I......  Are you trolling me
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Nebakenezzer posted:I...... https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/15/hr-mcmaster-russia-syria-crime-punishment-465841
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McMaster's supposedly staying where he is for now. https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/974468508074565632 Though, if he wants to stay in the Army he'll have to be promoted to four-star by July 2019, so if he gets a promotion he'll leave National Security Advisor and get a post doing something else. Also, Pompeo's a pretty big hawk on Russia, so if you want to say that's disqualifier in Trump's eyes, it would seem to conflict with the fact that he's moving Pompeo to Secretary of State. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-13/pompeo-in-his-own-words-on-iran-russia-and-spying-on-allies
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Or it wouldn't conflict at all because as the Director of the CIA he's in a much better position to be a hawk on Russia. As Secretary of State he's a diplomat first and a spy second, and he serves entirely at the pleasure of the president.
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Who else is he gonna put at state? Fuxking Bolton? The wapo sources (loving 5 of them) all said it wasn’t going to be immediate, so of course the WH can now furiously backpedal and deny deny deny.
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evil_bunnY posted:Who else is he gonna put at state? Fuxking Bolton? Uh yeah, he's actually being brought up as a front runner for the job.
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Without getting too D&D in here,
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chitoryu12 posted:Uh yeah, he's actually being brought up as a front runner for the job.
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I'm surprised Haley didn't get State, she's almost as effective a Trump Whisperer as Hicks was unless, God help us, she's being held in reserve for the next supreme court opening
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I doubt Haley wants it. (State, that is)
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evil_bunnY posted:Hahahaha oh lawd that’ll teach me. Never assume that Trump won't put the absolute worst person possible in every position when he gets a chance, or that they'll last more than a year.
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Mnuchin will be replaced with Mooch so he doesn't have to learn another name
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Nebakenezzer posted:
Page late but theyre really really bad because theyre not survivable at all. (And other reasons) We had them off the coast of Florida and regular ol' drug dealers shot them down. Its been tried before (LEMV most recently unless you count JLENS) and it definitely sucks. EDIT: http://aviationweek.com/blog/airship-programs-not-so-buoyant-says-gao CarForumPoster fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Mar 16, 2018 |
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CarForumPoster posted:Page late but theyre really really bad because theyre not survivable at all. (And other reasons) We had them off the coast of Florida and regular ol' drug dealers shot them down. Its been tried before (LEMV most recently unless you count JLENS) and it definitely sucks. lol there is that I figure the Marines would notice that once the ship was built and the drones in the prototype stage, and that would lead to a survivable airship program for about $20 billion or so waves hands in Chris Roberts-ian fashion "lasers or some other active defense" Seriously though, I figured if you made shitloads of cheap airship drones one getting shot down wouldn't matter - it would in fact be a signal that "bad guy be here". This is totally against the grain of defense, I know. (I forgot about the ISIS. First, wow guys, unfortunate name. Also LockMart's plan was....ambitious. First, let's make a long endurance airship that flies really really high, and then, let's save weight by making the skin of the pressure cells also function as the sensors. Gee, what could possibly go wrong?) Also since my 'sperg powers are activated, I gotta point out that Florida had aerosats, not a proper airship in any description, merely a tethered balloon with sensors.
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Anyone want to buy a Draken? http://www.platinumfighters.com/draken
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Hauldren Collider posted:Anyone want to buy a Draken? Huh. Guess I'll have to go check that lotto ticket.
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Mortabis posted:Forget the radar and suchlike, just getting a helicopter, any helicopter, to have a combat radius of 350nmi at 300 knots is absurd. Even V-22s fly 275 knots and have a combat radius of 390nmi. No conventional helicopter can do something like that. It’s not like there’s some physical barrier that prevents a helicopter from having a long range or endurance, it’s just that you’d usually use a fixed wing aircraft for that kind of job if you needed it because it’s a lot easier to stay in the air that long with a higher L/D. But flying fuel tanks like the A160 have been built with endurances in the range of 20 hours. There’s no fundamental barrier, it’s just that the payload weight fraction will be poor compared to a long endurance fixed wing vehicle. Not to say that I think the USMC’s RFP is a good idea. Vertical has a new pilot report on flying the Mi-24.
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Counterpoint:
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mlmp08 posted:Counterpoint: F-16.net > Discussion Forums > Off Topic > Exercise and Outdoors > before and after pics from 1 year of my exercise regimen
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Some losers don't wanna build that muscle, I get it.
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“Lost all my gains though”
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Synthoil: not even once.
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priznat posted:Skydrol: not even once.
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F-16s with CFTs and upgraded sensors can't help make me think of Deadpool. It'll kick your rear end, but it's all covered in tumors.
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