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Sigma-X
Jun 17, 2005
reprint wasteland for standard/modern

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Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
I'm gonna enjoy this format I think.

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

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Sigma-X posted:

reprint wasteland for standard/modern

If they do this then they better print that beast land too because we can name the deck "Green Beans" and increase the number of food-based deck names by one.

Sit on my Jace
Sep 9, 2016

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

I'm gonna enjoy this format I think.



How long does it take to combo on MODO?

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Anil Dasharez0ne posted:

How long does it take to combo on MODO?

A loving eternity.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Yeah modo really needs macros. But most people are polite and don't make you go through with it. Esp on the beta where people just want to jam test games right now.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
I'm guessing that auto-yields don't work because it's new objects every time, right?

So it's like 5 clicks and two priority passes every iteration. Gross.

Sit on my Jace
Sep 9, 2016

Count Bleck posted:

A loving eternity.

It seems like it would take even more clicks than Twin did, and that was pretty tedious already.

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Anil Dasharez0ne posted:

It seems like it would take even more clicks than Twin did, and that was pretty tedious already.

Trust me I used to own Abzan Company on MODO.

It's horrible.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



Anil Dasharez0ne posted:

It seems like it would take even more clicks than Twin did, and that was pretty tedious already.

Assuming both players f6, it seems to me like twin takes two clicks per iteration while copycat takes 3, so at least 1.5 times as long, so yeah.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

If you F6 wouldn't you skip your pw ability?

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
I count 5 clicks: one to target saheeli, one to pass priority, one to select her, one to choose which ability to use, one to target the cat

Twin with exarch was four: one to activate the ability, one to choose your mode, one to target the exarch, and one to pass priority. I think pestermite is the same number of clicks because you have to choose untap instead of choosing a mouse.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

I'm gonna enjoy this format I think.



Anil Dasharez0ne posted:

How long does it take to combo on MODO?

In that situation, the Twin player can just tap their two lands and press F8. Then it'll auto pass priority when needed, so it's just right click Saheeli, click -2, target Cat, target Saheeli, choose "yes", repeat. Should take about 5 seconds per iteration if the opponent isn't intentionally wasting both players times. You can even drag the Stack window down towards the permanents to reduce the space you have to move the mouse across.

Source: I played lots of Drake combo.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Hellsau posted:

In that situation, the Twin player can just tap their two lands and press F8. Then it'll auto pass priority when needed, so it's just right click Saheeli, click -2, target Cat, target Saheeli, choose "yes", repeat. Should take about 5 seconds per iteration if the opponent isn't intentionally wasting both players times. You can even drag the Stack window down towards the permanents to reduce the space you have to move the mouse across.

Source: I played lots of Drake combo.

That's a bit suboptimal if you think your opponent might have a fog or other disruption they can play mid-combat, sadly.

Can you hit f2 to say yes to optional abilities, or do you have to run the mouse all the way back to the left every time?

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Jabor posted:

That's a bit suboptimal if you think your opponent might have a fog or other disruption they can play mid-combat, sadly.

Can you hit f2 to say yes to optional abilities, or do you have to run the mouse all the way back to the left every time?

You can set it where "Y" is Yes and "N" is No, or whatever key you want to use. If this deck is as strong as it appears, you could also switch from F2 to letter keys and just have one hand on the mouse and your fingers on WASD, and have the priority pass button on A, the Yes on W, No on S, and whatever on D.

MTGO is dumb and bad.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



reaction time based game style keybindings: modo edition

mossyfisk
Nov 8, 2010

FF0000
Casting a fog after the opponent has run several minutes off their clock with the combo is going to be... pretty funny?

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

mossyfisk posted:

Casting a fog after the opponent has run several minutes off their clock with the combo is going to be... pretty funny?

It's extremely difficult to spend that much time on the combo unless you're lagging.

Sit on my Jace
Sep 9, 2016

Hellsau posted:

It's extremely difficult to spend that much time on the combo unless you're lagging.

So you're saying it'll happen constantly?

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Just restart modo and log in again after literally every single match, because it's 2017 and we still can't fix memory leaks or something.

Veyrall
Apr 23, 2010

The greatest poet this
side of the cyberpocalypse
What I'm hearing is, the best way to beat Saheeli combo on MODO is to let them run it through. You have the freedom to watch porn Tolarian Community in another window.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Veyrall posted:

What I'm hearing is, the best way to beat Saheeli combo on MODO is to let them run it through. You have the freedom to watch porn Tolarian Community in another window.

If it's game three and they haven't misclicked yet and they have 17 minutes on their clock, just concede. Your time should have value.

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

ThePeavstenator posted:

I admit bias as a Jund/k player but I stand firm that it's dumb to have a deck that's only good because it has a land that produces more and faster mana for an arbitrary creature type and then just drops bad fatties of said creature type

Going to dispute this as Thought-Knot Seer and Reality Smasher are incredibly potent cards outside of the Eldrazi type.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Going to dispute this as Thought-Knot Seer and Reality Smasher are incredibly potent cards outside of the Eldrazi type.

If Eldrazi Temple didn't exist in Modern, TKS and Reality Smasher would NEVER be played.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

I am mad, mad about the existence of tribal payoffs.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Irony Be My Shield posted:

I am mad, mad about the existence of tribal payoffs.

There are no other tribal payoffs as good as Eldrazi Temple.

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


mcmagic posted:

There are no other tribal payoffs as good as Eldrazi Temple.

Cavern of Souls?

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

I like to think Lord of Atlantis/Master of the Pearl Trident is pretty good payoff.

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

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Establish the Buns

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suicidesteve posted:

Cavern of Souls?

cavern of souls is actually just for mana fixing because lol @ playing counterspells in modern

Pontius Pilate
Jul 25, 2006

Crucify, Whale, Crucify
Swarmyard can be relentless.

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

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Pontius Pilate posted:

Swarmyard can be relentless.

lol good one

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

ThePeavstenator posted:

cavern of souls is actually just for mana fixing because lol @ playing counterspells in modern

Counterspells would be played more in modern if Cavern didn't exist. Bant Eldrazi also would be substantially worse if their spells could get countered.

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

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Establish the Buns

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Irony Be My Shield posted:

I am mad, mad about the existence of tribal payoffs.

elves get better the more elves on your side of the board
slivers get better the more slivers on your side of the board
merfolk get better the more merfolk on your side of the board
eldrazi are good because they exploit fast mana that was balanced around them all costing a billion

Hellsau posted:

Counterspells would be played more in modern if Cavern didn't exist. Bant Eldrazi also would be substantially worse if their spells could get countered.

yeah that was part of the joke, and blue is bad is also a thread meme, we like to have fun around here

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

ThePeavstenator posted:

yeah that was part of the joke, and blue is bad is also a thread meme, we like to have fun around here

this rarely appears to be true

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

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Establish the Buns

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Hellsau posted:

this rarely appears to be true

complaining about magic is the most fun part of it

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Hellsau posted:

If it's game three and they haven't misclicked yet and they have 17 minutes on their clock, just concede. Your time should have value.

On the other hands, goons.

Attorney at Funk
Jun 3, 2008

...the person who says honestly that he despairs is closer to being cured than all those who are not regarded as despairing by themselves or others.
Let's list all the good things about Battle for Zendikar block. Someone else start.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Legacy-playable Painful Truths.

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Attorney at Funk posted:

Let's list all the good things about Battle for Zendikar block. Someone else start.

Previous 4 Color Standard.

Oh you said good things.

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Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Attorney at Funk posted:

Let's list all the good things about Battle for Zendikar block. Someone else start.

Painful truths, sylvan scrying reprint, cutthroat, dispel reprint, and kalitas.

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