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OMFG FURRY posted:keep in mind a defender missile goes to the nearest bomb at the time of firing and will not 'look' for another target if that bomb gets defender'd or goes off Is this true? Whenever I see them used. They seem pretty good at spreading out and finding their own bombs.
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Feliday Melody posted:Is this true? That's because when you're in a big ole cluster of ships, whichever bomb is closest to a specific ship will change.
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CainFortea posted:That's because when you're in a big ole cluster of ships, whichever bomb is closest to a specific ship will change. I don't know. Bombs usually come in a straight line or a slight arrow shape towards the fleet with a very definite "first" bomb. Are we sure there isn't a little more math to this than just "closest bomb"? I could be wrong, but this one just doesn't feel right.
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I want CIWS battleships that can automatically brrrrrrrrt bombs/missiles and have a bonus to hitting fighters/drones with specialized turrets. I want pocket dreads (battleships with 1 XL gun) and escort carriers. I want drones to work like carrier fighters do and for Gallente drone boats to be BETTER at that than other racial drone boats - more effective or able to field more. Drone boats should be able to field as many drones as they can support with their bandwidth. Up to 10 light drones, 5 medium drones, and 3 heavy drones per flight. Make EWAR drones actually good.
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Feliday Melody posted:I don't know. Bombs usually come in a straight line or a slight arrow shape towards the fleet with a very definite "first" bomb. It's supposed to be a random bomb within its range, not the nearest bomb.
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I wonder how much code defender missiles share with the most wanted billboards and pos code
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dragonshardz posted:I want CIWS battleships that can automatically brrrrrrrrt bombs/missiles and have a bonus to hitting fighters/drones with specialized turrets. My apologies, but all those changes sound like they would be really fun. Request denied 
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Can a f2p non-whale contribute much to the fleet? I have a lot of computer downtime while recuperating from a hospital stay, and don't really want to sub until I know if I have fun playing another MMO. I would like to be scouting or helping in little ships, but still be able to shitpost (my one true accomplishment in life). I downloaded the game like a decade ago on my old potato and ended up not being able to log in on my 28.8K connection at the time. I posted in the Eve thread a bit but never was able to keep connected long enough to create a character. I found it again on Steam last week, and apparently you get credit for time playing while you still haven't even created a single character, because I'd been waiting on the login-screen as I read the first 10 and last 12 pages of this thread (Steam says 61 hours/played and I don't even have a single toon yet!) I don't need help figuring out how to join goons in space, but since it's the first time I will be dipping my toe in, are there any non-secretgoonwiki-but-goon-guides for a good start? I don't want to choose the "wrong" race or anything, and the free-to-view wiki starts off assuming you've at least made your first character already instead of shitposting (my one true accomplishment in life) at the 4 racial choices screen. Even just a link to a useful guide (goon stuff for Dungeons & Dragons Online guides were great, and entertaining to read as well as an example). I have oodles of time but can't jump on and be active for hours at a stretch, so scouting/exploring alone are usually what I do in other time-sink MMO roles. I can conversely log on for up to 6-8 hours consecutively for Eve "raid" type fleet stuff as long as I learn about it with a few hours/day of warning. Is this where I salute and say mate and stuff? I'm sitting on the account management screen now, getting time-played credit before I even see past the character screen  ...
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There are a few alpha ships that can be used in most fleets. You will be very limited in what you can do tho. There is always free t1 frigates or pretty nearly free t1 destroyers. you can actually make a bit of money using t1 destroyers via shitstack payout
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ded posted:There are a few alpha ships that can be used in most fleets. You will be very limited in what you can do tho. There is always free t1 frigates or pretty nearly free t1 destroyers. That's good to know! I don't mind subbing later if I have fun, but (from what I understand) the game is playable during the (steep?) learning curve without forcing you to pay out real money while getting used to the culture and slang. I'm happy to throw a game company some of my meager cash hoard for the game (even if it's just for socializingj-in-space). I just know that for over twenty years now I've enjoyed playing online with friendly people, and Eve lends itself (as I've read in the past and ITT) to all differing types of playstyles. If I enjoy the game to the point where I'm frustrated by mechanics standing in my way to future fun, I have no problem with a subscription model (EQ/WoW/DDO as examples).
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Tsed posted:It's supposed to be a random bomb within its range, not the nearest bomb. That makes a lot of sense.
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DerekSmartymans posted:Can a f2p non-whale contribute much to the fleet? Hey hospital buddy, if you're alright with wading into an unforgiving, rewarding, and emergent gameplay sandbox that just might reopen some of those stitches of yours, then definitely join up with a lively corp which the Imperium has in abundance. I've participated in many combat scenarios ranging from unprovoked 1v1 duels to days-long thousands of players battles and you'd think after your hundredth one the overarching spaceship shooting experience would get repetitive, like reflexively completing a raid knowing all the boss mechanics by heart, or starting a 1000th moba game with an encyclopedic knowledge of all the champ strengths and weaknesses. But because the human factor is so prevalent in Eve, from ship inception to its destruction, the chances of encountering something unexpected, both good and bad, is definitely what keeps me engaged. Like just a few hours ago I got to join a fleet that was one of the most dynamic experiences I've had in a long while. We got into some destroyers, which is a step above the tiny frigate, and followed our fleet commander through the wormhole to the other side of the galaxy into the heart of hostile space. There oblivious to the nearby wormhole were some big expensive, but seemingly unprotected ships mining ore and we got the surprise drop on them. But these guys were quick to call in reinforcements and soon we had a few dozen massive carriers teleporting on top of us sending out flights of fighters the size of our own ships. A level-headed fleet commander would have disengaged from such odds and prioritized getting the fleet back safely to home space, but no - not our commander. We assumed a fighting formation and started warping around among all the carriers picking off the least armored targets on the field, like the ships used to teleport them in. Our destroyers were just too agile for their capital fleet meant as a response to the much larger and slower cruisers and battleships, so next we even got the command to start shooting one of the carriers causing their entire fleet to warp off... Their first response fleet was then forced to call in a second fleet of smaller cruisers to try to get us out of their mining area, which we ended also up chasing through some jump gate to never be seen again. A nearby much scrappier third enemy fleet commander took it upon themselves to pull together their usual gang of assault frigates to try to direct us to the nearest wormhole, but their numbers were just not there and we played a bit of a cat and mouse with them before calling it back to Delve. But of course not before charging some fearsome NPCs guarding our egress that ended up one-shotting a good chunk of our fleet to the sounds of elation on comms. So if you want to read up on some public info on which way is the ship's front before signing up for the 'slang or culture', you might visit Eve Uni and you also can do space battle or something more involved like industry in no time.
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Potato Salad posted:My apologies, but all those changes sound like they would be really fun. Request denied 
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It is very strange that CCP haven't put a BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT gun in the game, obviously it would only be the animation and the actual impact ticks would have to be spaced out (or have it be a purely defensive PDC) but it would convince a lot of people that eve has sound again
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Make it specific to Minmatar ships and have it be a bunch of dudes crawling out onto the hull with janky pressure suits and magnetic boots with handheld autocannon. Ships have needed "utility" slots other than those for rigs for a while. Being able to put a Space CIWS in there would be one option.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Make it specific to Minmatar ships and have it be a bunch of dudes crawling out onto the hull with janky pressure suits and magnetic boots with handheld autocannon. That's what all the slots are. The ship has a basic level of utility that you then customize. Is this redeemer going to neut or shoot? Who knows!
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NtotheTC posted:It is very strange that CCP haven't put a BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT gun in the game, obviously it would only be the animation and the actual impact ticks would have to be spaced out (or have it be a purely defensive PDC) but it would convince a lot of people that eve has sound again Edencom has lightning guns. I'm told they suck.
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They do. Except for some limited Abyssal memes
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NtotheTC posted:It is very strange that CCP haven't put a BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT gun in the game, obviously it would only be the animation and the actual impact ticks would have to be spaced out (or have it be a purely defensive PDC) but it would convince a lot of people that eve has sound again Minmatar CIWS (T2 Maelstrom) goes BRRRRRT Amarr CIWS goes (T2 Abaddon) PEWWWWW Gallente CIWS (T2 Megathron) goes SHREEEEEEEE-CHOOM Caldari CIWS (T2 Scorpion) goes WOMMMMMMMM For real, though, I don't get why in this era of bombs and fighters being the greatest danger to battleship fleets, we don't have T2 CIWS BS. Also pocket dreads (Dominix, Tempest, Apocalypse, Raven) and escort carriers (Hyperion, Typhoon, Armageddon, Rokh)!
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This sounds dangerously like iterating on the design of spaceships in this spaceships in space game, and CCP can't be dealing with that
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Isn't the Triglavian battleship literally a structure basher?
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DerekSmartymans posted:Can a f2p non-whale contribute much to the fleet? Someone repost all the "Every ship counts" posters im phoneposting tia
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Potato Salad posted:Isn't the Triglavian battleship literally a structure basher? yes, but it's trivial to damage cap structures.
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DerekSmartymans posted:That's good to know! I don't mind subbing later if I have fun, but (from what I understand) the game is playable during the (steep?) learning curve without forcing you to pay out real money while getting used to the culture and slang. I'm happy to throw a game company some of my meager cash hoard for the game (even if it's just for socializingj-in-space). I just know that for over twenty years now I've enjoyed playing online with friendly people, and Eve lends itself (as I've read in the past and ITT) to all differing types of playstyles. If I enjoy the game to the point where I'm frustrated by mechanics standing in my way to future fun, I have no problem with a subscription model (EQ/WoW/DDO as examples). dude. a new player in a free t1 frigate was the straw on the camels back that caused the largest loss of capital ships (and RL money equiv) in the history of online gaming. https://massivelyop.com/2021/01/02/the-christmas-truce-in-eve-online-ends-in-explosive-fashion-with-a-costly-300k-battle-at-m2-xfe/ be sure to read some of the wiki stuff and keep in mind there is very old stuff in it that needs to be cleaned https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Main_Page ded fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Mar 25, 2022 |
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the pilot that shot the cyno jammer in M2 was flying an interceptor, and I'm not sure they were a newbee but I'll be damned if I can remember or find their name
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ded posted:dude. a new player in a free t1 frigate was the straw on the camels back that caused the largest loss of capital ships (and RL money equiv) in the history of online gaming. Holy gently caress. I flew with the bees in the original world war bee back in...what was it, 2016 I think? Glad to see the war kicked off again (or at least did). I won eve a while back and haven't had much of an urge to play again, but reading about stuff like that makes me a little twitchy, though I imagine the ti-di must have been insanely bad. Its Mittani still running the show?
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Jazzzzz posted:the pilot that shot the cyno jammer in M2 was flying an interceptor, and I'm not sure they were a newbee but I'll be damned if I can remember or find their name DONT RUIN THE STORY DAMNIT
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i'm like 90% sure we found out that it was a newbee because he posted in this thead "yeah i was shootin' the big circle thing when it all went down, someone told me to and then a timer started and all these giant ships showed up"
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EVERY TIME GOING posted:Hey hospital buddy, if you're alright with wading into an unforgiving, rewarding, and emergent gameplay sandbox that just might reopen some of those stitches of yours Not exactly that kind of hospital...but I have permanent stitches from my corneal transplant in January! I just spent about 5 weeks inpatient due to meds bottoming out. I am always compliant, but when you've been on all the psyche meds for 2 decades, some stop working and some meds get weird synergy or cancelations. It's not the first time it's happened, but it can, and I go long periods with no bad effects. I'm also the primary caregiver of a 98 year-old in end-stage dementia and a 70 year-old mother beating cancer. Which is the main reason I can't always get away immediately for an hours-long fleet op or raid, and enjoy being able to be part of a group helping alone at odd times of day. I generally can get free time with a little warning beforehand. quote:So if you want to read up on some public info on which way is the ship's front before signing up for the 'slang or culture', you might visit Eve Uni and you also can do space battle or something more involved like industry in no time. I'll read up after everyone else goes to bed! Appreciate the link! Edit: I have the goonwiki already pulled up, and feel capable of not loving up the process, but I also hope to create a character later tonight and run through the "Opportunities" laid out in the open wiki. My desktop should have 0 issues, but I'm excited to attempt to load it on my potato laptop running Steam on Linux! I have a lot of posting pressure built up from last month, though...fair warning! DerekSmartymans fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Mar 25, 2022 |
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ded posted:DONT RUIN THE STORY DAMNIT When given the choice between printing the truth and printing the legend, always choose the legend.
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also i was there in that fleet that shot the cyno jammer
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Stereotype posted:lol i found this image of the first M2- fight i remember when eve was cool
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:This sounds dangerously like iterating on the design of spaceships in this spaceships in space game, and CCP can't be dealing with that  Potato Salad posted:Isn't the Triglavian battleship literally a structure basher? Yes, but why would only a spooky pirate faction have that? Jazzzzz posted:the pilot that shot the cyno jammer in M2 was flying an interceptor, and I'm not sure they were a newbee but I'll be damned if I can remember or find their name The first person to shoot at the jammer and pause it was an adorable newbee who lived long enough for an interceptor fleet to arrive and keep it paused.
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dragonshardz posted:Minmatar CIWS (T2 Maelstrom) goes BRRRRRT just turn this game into a breakcore album during major fights
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dragonshardz posted:Also pocket dreads (Dominix, Tempest, Apocalypse, Raven) and escort carriers (Hyperion, Typhoon, Armageddon, Rokh)! The Rokh would have the giant gun and it’d be co-axial.
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M2 made coming back sooooo worth it. Being in Asher's fleet at 4 am Aussie time for the final "defence" of 1DQ was just the cherry on top.
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I seriously doubt CCP will go back and fix things they're already "done" with, they still haven't fixed COSMOS missions being so god drat newbie hostile, you cannot reattempt these missions if you fail them and it's a chain, if you fail one, you fail them all. Also repair drones, I wish repair drones could repair their host ship but that's illogical and thus not allowed, go buy a second account like everyone else. They WANT you to have multiple accounts or whatever, which is also kind of newbie hostile in certain ways as well. Also any ships having anykind of CIWS would counter their "small > medium > bigger ship" philosophy or whatever.
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Kerbtree posted:The Rokh would have the giant gun and it’d be co-axial. https://i.imgur.com/e7q6s3l.mp4
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Potato Salad posted:Isn't the Triglavian battleship literally a structure basher? Pretty much
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