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Scott Porter. EDIT: drat, new page.
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# ? Jan 10, 2018 20:39 |
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# ? Jun 13, 2024 05:58 |
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Basebf555 posted:I figured that guy never had time to take any other roles, it seems like he had a Zatoichi movie to film like every single year for 20 years or something. He has to have the record for playing the same character in the highest number of films. Nah, that's the guy who played Wong Fei Hung in like 100 movies.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 01:05 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Who plays the Bill Paxton character that he repeatedly abuses and is constantly loving with? Sebastian Stan easily especially if he keeps his I, Tonya mustache.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 01:25 |
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Sam Rockwell
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 08:13 |
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Basebf555 posted:I figured that guy never had time to take any other roles, it seems like he had a Zatoichi movie to film like every single year for 20 years or something. He has to have the record for playing the same character in the highest number of films. Fun fact, Shintaro Katsu was supposed to play the lead in Kurosawa's Kagemusha, but his ego was apparently insufferable, and Kurosawa had to replace him with Tatsuya Nakadai before filming even started.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 18:58 |
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Steen71 posted:Fun fact, Shintaro Katsu was supposed to play the lead in Kurosawa's Kagemusha, but his ego was apparently insufferable, and Kurosawa had to replace him with Tatsuya Nakadai before filming even started. Sounds like a funny story, according to Wikipedia Katsu brought his own film crew to the set and was gonna make like an unauthorized Kurosawa documentary and I guess he just assumed Kurosawa would be totally cool with that? Hard to imagine Kagemusha without Nakadai though. I saw Sword of Doom for the first time a few weeks ago and that's fantastic as well.
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# ? Jan 11, 2018 19:15 |
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Bob Odenkirk is getting his own John Wick... produced by some of the people behind Wick and Atomic Blonde. Get the gently caress in.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 15:47 |
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Fart City posted:Bob Odenkirk is getting his own John Wick... produced by some of the people behind Wick and Atomic Blonde. This is amazing.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 15:49 |
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Assuming Odenkirk is physically capable of performing the necessary action choreography, he would be absolutely perfect for a movie like this. He'd have been a much more inspired casting decision for the Death Wish remake now that I think about it. The choreography is key though, that was a big part of what made casting Keanu such a great decision. And even he had to then go off and do intensive weapons training in addition to his previous martial arts experience.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:05 |
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If Colin Firth could pull it off for Kingsman...
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:08 |
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Basebf555 posted:Assuming Odenkirk is physically capable of performing the necessary action choreography, he would be absolutely perfect for a movie like this. He'd have been a much more inspired casting decision for the Death Wish remake now that I think about it. Oh man, this is so spot-on it’s kind of depressing. The thing about Odenkirk is that he’s continually surprised me. Back when Mr. Show was airing, I never in a million years would have thought he could do drama. And even when he was in Breaking Bad, I never would have thought he could lead his own drama. But he’s shown time and time again that he can step the gently caress up. And I think him being a producer on this will go a long way in making him bring his A-game in terms of physicality.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:10 |
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Basebf555 posted:Assuming Odenkirk is physically capable of performing the necessary action choreography, he would be absolutely perfect for a movie like this. He'd have been a much more inspired casting decision for the Death Wish remake now that I think about it. People keep asking if he can handle the action choreography. Uh, yeah, I'm thinking he can handle it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77u30-01Asw
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:10 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:If Colin Firth could pull it off for Kingsman... Definitely, I'd have said the same thing about Firth and he definitely pulled it off. So I have high hopes for Odenkirk and obviously we know that he can handle whatever the acting demands are.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:13 |
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I know one of the expectations about contemporary action movies is that the lead will get into really good shape for it to the point of physically transforming themselves (Exhibit A: Chris Pratt in Guardians of the Galaxy) but are there any examples of action leads who either wouldn't or couldn't get into shape? I imagine Seagal is one who might be mention, but I recently watched Under Siege and I think he tended to rely on his martial arts rather than getting really jacked like Arnold or Stallone.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:21 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:I know one of the expectations about contemporary action movies is that the lead will get into really good shape for it to the point of physically transforming themselves (Exhibit A: Chris Pratt in Guardians of the Galaxy) but are there any examples of action leads who either wouldn't or couldn't get into shape? Late-era Charles Bronson always looked like he showed up in a wheelbarrow full of cigarettes butts. And then you’ve got Joe Don Baker, whose entire persona was built around “big angry ham.”
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:24 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:I know one of the expectations about contemporary action movies is that the lead will get into really good shape for it to the point of physically transforming themselves (Exhibit A: Chris Pratt in Guardians of the Galaxy) but are there any examples of action leads who either wouldn't or couldn't get into shape? Liam Neeson?
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:30 |
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Lobok posted:Liam Neeson? He did it for the A-Team movie, oddly enough. By Taken #12 I'm sure he gave zero fucks about anything though.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:33 |
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I don't know what movies or serious movies were the ones that changed the game, but it's only recently that guys like Arnold, Stallone, and JCVD aren't exceptions anymore. Bruce Willis and Nicholas Cage are some others who rarely or never got really jacked up for their roles. I don't remember Matt Damon being in ridiculous shape to do the first Bourne movie, but then of course he was jacked up by the last one. (Granted, even in that, it's not like he went all the way to a bodybuilder physique.) When it comes to martial artists, Jackie Chan was extremely cut when he was young, following Bruce Lee, but size wasn't a big deal. Now he has no need to put his body through that. Donnie Yen didn't bulk up until he did a movie with Vin Diesel. Chuck Norris was always in shape, but he looked like a normal human being. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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Nicolas Cage was pretty jacked in Con Air, but I think that was a one-and-done. Come to think of it, did he ever have another outright “spinkick a motherfucker in the face” action movie after that? I’m not talking about Ghost Rider, but a movie where he was presented as being able to do legit martial arts poo poo. Because I’m coming up blank, and you would have thought the success of that movie would have changed his course trajectory, kind of like how Wesley Snipes went from drama to martial arts action star.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:44 |
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I always liked the story about Michael Gambon being offered the role of James Bond where he protested to Cubby Broccoli:quote:"I said, I can't play James Bond, because I'm bald, I've got a double chin and I've got girl's tits," he told RTE's Ryan Tubridy. "So he said, well, so has Sean Connery, so we put a wig on him, and we put two big leather bags full of ice on his chest before the take. And then a man comes in just before the action and takes the bags off and then Connery has a beautiful flat chest and he has false teeth and all that. Fart City posted:Nicolas Cage was pretty jacked in Con Air, but I think that was a one-and-done. Come to think of it, did he ever have another outright “spinkick a motherfucker in the face” action movie after that? I’m not talking about Ghost Rider, but a movie where he was presented as being able to do legit martial arts poo poo. Because I’m coming up blank, and you would have thought the success of that movie would have changed his course trajectory, kind of like how Wesley Snipes went from drama to martial arts action star. His other action movies after Con Air were Face/Off and Gone In Sixty Seconds, but I don't think he did a whole lot of what you're talking about in them (Face/Off is more gunplay and Gone In Sixty Seconds is cars). One thing that's always bothered me about Con Air is that Cameron Poe shows up in a redneck bar in full dress uniform and still has some guys try to pick a fight instead of buy him a drink. After that, he leaves when he's threatened by them to de-escalate the situation, fights back to defend his pregnant wife when they follow him out into the car park and only kills one of the attackers when they pull a knife on him. I think the single most unrealistic thing in that gloriously silly movie is that he's put in prison at all at the start. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:I always liked the story about Michael Gambon being offered the role of James Bond where he protested to Cubby Broccoli: Funny thing is that Connery was an amateur bodybuilder before he got the Bond role, and completely dropped that stuff and just had a generic not-fat 1960s male physique for his classic run of Bond movies.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:50 |
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Cage is an interesting case because he broke through in action movies in The Rock, where he's not the stereotypical action hero character at all. He's a nerdy scientist guy who is thrust into a situation he isn't prepared for and he becomes the hero over the course of the movie. He really only became "action hero" Cage for Con Air and really he never did that again. He did a car movie with Gone in 60 Seconds, and Face/Off where he's the villain(his body is at least), 8mm which is just a detective noir story with very little action, etc. etc.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:50 |
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I think you see the transition to making normal actors get jacked for action roles in the early 2000s, give or take. Like Hugh Jackman in X-Men was just a ordinary looking fit dude, but by X2 in 2003 he's huge.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:52 |
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sean10mm posted:I think you see the transition to making normal actors get jacked for action roles in the early 2000s, give or take. Like Hugh Jackman in X-Men was just a ordinary looking fit dude, but by X2 in 2003 he's huge. Jackman's thing is that he works out really, really hard before he does an X-Men movie, then lets it go once he's finished until the next one's ready to start. Conversely, I think Henry Cavill's supposed to have enjoyed the regimen he was put on when he was cast as Superman and kept it up after he finished Man of Steel, which is why he looks like Superman all the time.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:54 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:Jackman's thing is that he works out really, really hard before he does an X-Men movie, then lets it go once he's finished until the next one's ready to start. Yeah, and also IIRC he had to get way smaller to play other roles in-between where he's a physically normal human.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:55 |
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Bale's transformation from Patrick Bateman, to The Machinist, and then back to huge for Batman was influential as well. I think a lot of actors saw that and were like "poo poo, I gotta up my game."
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:57 |
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Fart City posted:Nicolas Cage was pretty jacked in Con Air, but I think that was a one-and-done. Come to think of it, did he ever have another outright “spinkick a motherfucker in the face” action movie after that? I’m not talking about Ghost Rider, but a movie where he was presented as being able to do legit martial arts poo poo. Because I’m coming up blank, and you would have thought the success of that movie would have changed his course trajectory, kind of like how Wesley Snipes went from drama to martial arts action star. I wish John Cusack had done more martial arts in his movies. He started training under Benny Urquidez for the role in Say Anything... and kept at it for years. It's just weird that he's more of a legit martial artist than most action stars, and he only puts those skills to work in comedies.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:58 |
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The first case of an actor’s diet and workout regiment being a major point of conversation that I can remember was Tobey Maguire in Spider-Man.Basebf555 posted:Bale's transformation from Patrick Bateman, to The Machinist, and then back to huge for Batman was influential as well. I think a lot of actors saw that and were like "poo poo, I gotta up my game." I rewatched Batman Begins last week and I had forgotten just how big he is in that. And I remember reading something where when he had originally shown up for his costume fitting he has actually put on too much muscle, which ironically made him look puffy when in the bat suit. So when you see him in the finished film he’s actually smaller than what he built himself up to be for the role. Tart Kitty fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Jan 12, 2018 |
# ? Jan 12, 2018 16:58 |
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Fart City posted:The first case of an actor’s diet and workout regiment being a major point of conversation that I can remember was Tobey Maguire in Spider-Man. How about Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2?
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 17:08 |
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Uh, Arnold?
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 17:47 |
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I mean in the line of conversation about non-bodybuilder actors getting crazy cut for roles. I’d forgotten about all of the Linda Hamilton chatter though. I do remember that being a big thing now that I think about it.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 17:52 |
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The one I remember most keenly is actually Daniel Craig in 2005/2006 just before Casino Royale came out. It was either an image from the production of that scene where he emerges from the sea onto a beach like Ursula Andress in Dr No or just a picture of him at the beach, but I remember there was a lot of remarks about how he'd gotten into pretty good shape for the movie. Then again, there was a lot of hostility to him when he was announced and part of that was that he didn't have the look, so maybe it played into that. In any event, I don't have the impression that any of his predecessors had that discussion around them. You look up Roger Moore on Wikipedia and it's got a picture of him with his shirt off in 1979 and he's not in bad shape for his age (he was 52) but at the same time he doesn't exactly have the physique of a stereotypical action star.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 18:03 |
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The Craig thing was 100% about his hair, people flipped their poo poo that James Bond was gonna be a blonde guy. It was pretty dumb.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 18:04 |
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Oh, absolutely, the hair was the biggest part of it but I remember the tabloids grumbling that he was schlubby-looking as well.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 18:11 |
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Bond Blonde, so what Another actor who had an interesting shift in trajectory was Jason Statham. The dude was never out of shape, but in movies like Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch he was more known for his banter than anything. Then he did the Transporter and more-or-less never looked back.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 18:12 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:The one I remember most keenly is actually Daniel Craig in 2005/2006 just before Casino Royale came out. It was either an image from the production of that scene where he emerges from the sea onto a beach like Ursula Andress in Dr No or just a picture of him at the beach, but I remember there was a lot of remarks about how he'd gotten into pretty good shape for the movie. That beefcake shot of him walking out of the water in tiny shorts was pretty smart marketing.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 18:12 |
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Neo Rasa posted:Uh, Arnold? LesterGroans posted:That beefcake shot of him walking out of the water in tiny shorts was pretty smart marketing. La Perla must have sold thousands of men's swimsuits. Wheat Loaf posted:Jackman's thing is that he works out really, really hard before he does an X-Men movie, then lets it go once he's finished until the next one's ready to start. Wheat Loaf posted:One thing that's always bothered me about Con Air is that Cameron Poe shows up in a redneck bar in full dress uniform and still has some guys try to pick a fight instead of buy him a drink. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jan 12, 2018 |
# ? Jan 12, 2018 18:33 |
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Halloween Jack posted:The insane thirst for troop dick didn't exist in 1997. It's entirely a propaganda product of the War On Terror. There was some around the Gulf War, but it was pretty mild and pretty transient compared to what we got from 9/11 to now. It also had an undercurrent of "making up for" how Vietnam veterans were treated. Even though people's ideas about that were based on Hollywood action movies as much as anything real.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 18:48 |
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My favorite thing about the opening to Con Air is that it’s set in a bar that you can seemingly only reach by boat.
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 18:50 |
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Wasn’t De Niro putting on 50 pounds for the end of Raging Bull a big deal? And also didn’t Rock Hudson beef up after it came out that he was gay?
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# ? Jan 12, 2018 19:14 |