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I suppose zoya does look a lot worse now, might be some egg on my face there
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i tried to protect neverhelm and "my action was unsuccessful", someone roleblocked me -- although i can easily see that RB coming from a town player that think i'm scum but before all that... how the gently caress did grandi die? i spent a good part of yesterday building a case on him being scum and then he fuckin dropped dead at hammer
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Aug 23, 2023 17:17
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Hal Insandenza posted:I got a bunch of chips too, and also gave some to shwinn Cool thanks Someone else stole chips from me or something
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Aug 23, 2023 17:44
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Zoya posted:i tried to protect neverhelm and "my action was unsuccessful", someone roleblocked me -- although i can easily see that RB coming from a town player that think i'm scum Anyone here want to admit to visiting Zoya?
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Aug 23, 2023 18:00
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spacing in vienna posted:Opop did you try to mason me? I got 500 chips but it didn't say from where. Twas I, we figured you were trustworthy. And speaking of we'd thought about masoning Helm earlier and figured that it makes no sense for him to be able, I am guessing that the "bad players" I can recruit are the vanilla-type roles, so if anyone wants to claim one lmk
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Sorry for lateness!
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Aug 23, 2023 19:13
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Did we just have one confirmed redirection n1 or were there more
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Aug 23, 2023 19:14
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Hal Insandenza posted:I got a bunch of chips too, and also gave some to shwinn Weird, since it looks like I lost the same number you gained
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Aug 23, 2023 19:18
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Strongly believe that Zoya is the kill choice today. No need to rush it, though, they are already -2 and I’d like to attempt to play some poker today, for one thing.
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Aug 23, 2023 19:31
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Hal Insandenza posted:Oh, any reason? we are gonna kill zoya today imo but this was a weird hal post
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Aug 23, 2023 20:59
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shwinnebego posted:we are gonna kill zoya today imo we could, and hear me out here, not kill zoya today i'm a huge fan of this strategy, personally
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Aug 23, 2023 21:47
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JosefStalinator posted:Anyone here want to admit to visiting Zoya?
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Aug 23, 2023 21:53
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Zoya posted:we could, and hear me out here, not kill zoya today It's not going to happen, I'm afraid
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Aug 23, 2023 22:31
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far as i can no one has even bothered to proffer a weak and unconvincing reason why zoya might be town
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shwinnebego posted:far as i can no one has even bothered to proffer a weak and unconvincing reason why zoya might be town i mean, even i don't really see a scenario where i don't get executed today, even though i know it's a mislunch the only thing i can point to in my own defense is that, the literal only person i tried to case and build suspicion against yeterday was grandi, because he pinged me hard the day before, he visited me and hadn't claimed what his action does aside from steal chips (...which, as it turns out, was all that it did i guess), so i thought if shwinne was telling the truth on having watched me, grandi was the most likely to have messed with my action ...but, grandi was apparently poisoned, or delaykilled in some manner. i assume this is why there was no kill N2, and scum presumably knew he was dead man walking, right? if i were scum, would i really waste my time trying to push suspicion or votes onto someone i knew was going to drop dead before it ever became relevant? DB was always going to be the vote yesterday, so any posts, speculations, and casing, were just building up ammunition for our D4 execution decision... a decision that scum would have known grandi would never be a part of it's actually kind of depressing really because with grandi dead i no longer have any idea who the real remaining scum is. i suspected opop at one point, but that was ages ago, and he's played solidly pro-town since then. josef has always seemed solid town to me. hal has always seemed solid town to me, even if everyone took issue with my townread on him for reasons that are beyond me yesterday. that leaves ref, shwinne, and SiV, all of which are currently town leans for me. if i squint and stretch really hard, i guess i can see shwinne being scum that simply lied about the watch target, but is it even possible for shwinne + DB to be scum together? DB's flip explicitly puts him in a masonry with shwinne. would maugrim hard code a masonry between... two scum players? that's too weird even for maugrim. so that leaves me as the only smart choice for town to execute right now, even though i know it's a mistake, and i don't really know how to correctly play this game state tbh
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Aug 23, 2023 23:15
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JosefStalinator posted:Anyone here want to admit to visiting Zoya? I bluffed Zoya out of 205 chips and then somehow swiped an additional 200. It seemed to have been a separate move, the wording was different.
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Aug 23, 2023 23:29
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shwinnebego posted:Weird, since it looks like I lost the same number you gained If Hal gifted you his usual 222 and then somehow gained 740 from you, that would explain it being a net 518 but actually two steps.
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Opopanax posted:Twas I, we figured you were trustworthy. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Apparently I'm not a bad player (or a good player, either? Solidly mediocre) so I'm sorry it didn't work.
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Aug 23, 2023 23:33
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spacing in vienna posted:I bluffed Zoya out of 205 chips and then somehow swiped an additional 200. It seemed to have been a separate move, the wording was different. does your stealing action, perchance, also roleblock your target? asking for a friend
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Aug 23, 2023 23:34
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Zoya posted:does your stealing action, perchance, also roleblock your target? asking for a friend That's just it. I don't have a stealing move. I have a bluff move that takes 20% of the chips of my target. That's the 205. I have no idea WTF is up with the extra 200. I assume that's more of the "scum moving chips around for lols" except Hal swiping 700-ish after gifting to shwinn also seems to be in that pile.
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spacing in vienna posted:That's just it. I don't have a stealing move. I have a bluff move that takes 20% of the chips of my target. That's the 205. I have no idea WTF is up with the extra 200. i mean, i would describe an action that targets a player and gives you 20% of their chips as a "stealing action", but yes, there's still some fuckery going on with the chips that i don't know if we'll ever fully figure out
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anyone else have anything to say
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shwinnebego posted:anyone else have anything to say Not really, although I’m not sure where things stand if Zoya ends up flipping town. I think everyone seems pretty set on this (and I don’t disagree with it) but speaking for myself I would be suspicious of about 90% of the remaining players if this ends up a misdunk somehow.
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There also doesn’t seem to be a ton of need to hurry and I still have chips to lose, so I’d be up for more cards, too.
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Referee posted:Not really, although I’m not sure where things stand if Zoya ends up flipping town. I think everyone seems pretty set on this (and I don’t disagree with it) but speaking for myself I would be suspicious of about 90% of the remaining players if this ends up a misdunk somehow. If Zoya is a misdunk, we may want to watch Spacing in Vienna.
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JosefStalinator posted:If Zoya is a misdunk, we may want to watch Spacing in Vienna. I wanna watch siv either way.
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Aug 24, 2023 06:52
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I am 99% sure it's not Siv, probably my biggest town read atm
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keep in mind for after i flip -- if it wasn't town that RB'd me, there's still 2 scum left since one spent last night RBing, and the other killed neverhelm
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shwinnebego posted:we are gonna kill zoya today imo I guess, maybe I’m too checked out but I wasn’t sure what zoya did that was egregiously scummy
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spacing in vienna posted:If Hal gifted you his usual 222 and then somehow gained 740 from you, that would explain it being a net 518 but actually two steps. That seems to be what happens, it was presented to me as someone gifting me chips (740) I didn’t get any chips from Ref or Josef when I gave them 222 though so it wasn’t my action
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shwinnebego posted:Weird, since it looks like I lost the same number you gained Did you get something else along with my chips?
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Ohhh wait the other thing isn’t something you are told about, lol. I should pay more attention to my PMs
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Zoya posted:i tried to protect neverhelm and "my action was unsuccessful", someone roleblocked me -- although i can easily see that RB coming from a town player that think i'm scum Perhaps poisoned the night before and expired at the end of day
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Hal Insandenza posted:Did you get something else along with my chips? i gained 222 and lost 740
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So as we get closer to the end game I think it's important I reveal the OTHER thing I give people. Whoever I gift chips to their vote SECRETLY counts double, so let's be careful with that if we get down another person without hitting a scum
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Hal Insandenza posted:So as we get closer to the end game I think it's important I reveal the OTHER thing I give people. does it last just the next day or longer
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shwinnebego posted:does it last just the next day or longer I believe it’s just the next day
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Hal Insandenza posted:So as we get closer to the end game I think it's important I reveal the OTHER thing I give people. Very interesting. Good to know!
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So that would imply we are actually at -1 right now?
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Referee posted:So that would imply we are actually at -1 right now? Indeed
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