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its kind of baffling how many programs microsoft or 3rd party will look at internet explorer's settings and use those or w/e and handle proxies with no issues and then current-gen visual studio, which i would expect to be a relatively important piece of microsoft's enterprise offerings, completely fails to handle it in any way. the sign-in functionality? nope! can't find the server! nuget? completely broken. what a mess.
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May 29, 2014 22:48
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So what does maven get me over gradle...at my current work we just have a task that runs all your tests and then publishes the jar/war to artifactory and is relatively simple so it suits our needs.
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May 29, 2014 23:42
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CPColin posted:raise your hand if you love it when Eclipse hangs for several minutes when you ask it to refactor the name of a private static field! i used to run five eclipses on a machine with three gigs of ram yes i loved it because the lengthy stalls would happen three or four times per hour and every one was a potential tea break
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May 29, 2014 23:53
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opt posted:So what does maven get me over gradle...at my current work we just have a task that runs all your tests and then publishes the jar/war to artifactory and is relatively simple so it suits our needs. if that's all you're doing, you're fine with either. it's really not a holy-war-level argument (or it shouldn't be, anyway)
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May 29, 2014 23:54
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opt posted:So what does maven get me over gradle...at my current work we just have a task that runs all your tests and then publishes the jar/war to artifactory and is relatively simple so it suits our needs. tbj i have not tried gradle. i have been burnt p. good by sbt and scons so i just tend to look askance at using a program to build the code for my program. maven and ant have the advantage that the build files are (supposed to be) just dumb documents. they are explicitly not meant to be code. if you want code in your build process, you write a plugin and configure it in the document
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May 30, 2014 00:14
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:maven and ant have the advantage that the build files are (supposed to be) just dumb documents. they are explicitly not meant to be code. if you want code in your build process, you write a plugin and configure it in the document this is the key difference. maven and ant have higher barriers to customization, while gradle/sbt/scons make it much easier to do whatever you want. there is certainly a solid argument that can be made in favor of the higher barriers
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May 30, 2014 00:16
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the flipside is that they're really painful to troubleshoot
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May 30, 2014 00:18
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good news: I have an interview at an ASP.net/C#/vb.net place for a babby level programmer position bad news: I know MVC but not ASP and C# but not vb.net
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May 30, 2014 20:45
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Luigi Thirty posted:good news: I have an interview at an ASP.net/C#/vb.net place for a babby level programmer position you know the better parts, then
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May 30, 2014 20:56
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im thinking about either using angular.js to do..something, or playing around with djangocms
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May 30, 2014 21:00
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prefect posted:you know the better parts, then As I am not a corporation I have not deigned myself to the level of VB.net, no
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May 30, 2014 21:00
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Valeyard posted:angular.js been working at a company that uses it for a few months and it's pretty cool and easy to pick up and do things pretty quickly
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May 31, 2014 00:08
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HTML5 posted:been working at a company that uses it for a few months and it's pretty cool and easy to pick up and do things pretty quickly do you know what kind of things they do with it specifically? im trying to get an idea of how complicated you could get with it. i ran through the first set of tutorials on their site earlier and it seemed pretty interesting, ill finish them up soon
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May 31, 2014 00:27
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i found angular extraordinarily confusing but that's probably because i skimmed the tutorial for 5 minutes and then started trying to do stuff with it
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May 31, 2014 00:45
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prefect posted:this is the key difference. maven and ant have higher barriers to customization, while gradle/sbt/scons make it much easier to do whatever you want. there is certainly a solid argument that can be made in favor of the higher barriers with maven, if someone gets clever it means the product is garbage. with gradle/sbt, if someone gets clever it means the product is a different kind of garbage with each build
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May 31, 2014 00:47
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Shaggar posted:with maven, if someone gets clever it means the product is garbage. with gradle/sbt, if someone gets clever it means the product is a different kind of garbage with each build read this post carefully
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May 31, 2014 01:26
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CPColin posted:raise your hand if you love it when Eclipse hangs for several minutes when you ask it to refactor the name of a private static field! VS has the same issue if you accidentally Go To Definition on a member that is declared inside the .NET sources
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May 31, 2014 07:36
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Bloody posted:its kind of baffling how many programs microsoft or 3rd party will look at internet explorer's settings and use those or w/e and handle proxies with no issues and then current-gen visual studio, which i would expect to be a relatively important piece of microsoft's enterprise offerings, completely fails to handle it in any way. the sign-in functionality? nope! can't find the server! nuget? completely broken. what a mess. I'm not on that project anymore, but nuget worked fine behind the lovely corporate proxy last time I tried
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May 31, 2014 07:38
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sometimes i have network problems where skype will work fine but i cant connect to any website, is this something to do with skype using udp while loading up sites is tcp?
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May 31, 2014 08:07
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Valeyard posted:sometimes i have network problems where skype will work fine but i cant connect to any website, is this something to do with skype using udp while loading up sites is tcp? what dns server are you using?
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May 31, 2014 08:45
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AlsoD posted:what dns server are you using? thats a good question, i normally just leave it at default settings but ive also had it set to googles in the past, dns problems would make sense it hasnt happaned for a while now, its something i remembered and was curious about
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May 31, 2014 08:58
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also codeschool seems really nice
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May 31, 2014 10:18
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Shaggar posted:with maven, if someone gets clever it means the product is garbage. with gradle/sbt, if someone gets clever it means the product is a different kind of garbage with each build tbh i wish maven had a "run until the artifacts converge" command. too many modules, too many maven-shade-plugin
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May 31, 2014 11:52
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:tbh i wish maven had a "run until the artifacts converge" command. too many modules, too many maven-shade-plugin subprojects have never worked in any build system uber-jars are bad
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May 31, 2014 16:02
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~Coxy posted:I'm not on that project anymore, but nuget worked fine behind the lovely corporate proxy last time I tried idk it seems incapable of figuring out our proxy.pac or something
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May 31, 2014 20:29
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:subprojects have never worked in any build system for once the build problems aren't my fault. except for maybe the uberjars, i don't recall. and i'm not impressed by onejar or capsule
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Bloody posted:idk it seems incapable of figuring out our proxy.pac or something ahh that might be it, I'm pretty sure we used a static proxy
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okay so they went from "what is your interview availability" to "position on hold, we'll get back to you in a few weeks". fuk now I'm all depressed again
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Luigi Thirty posted:okay so they went from "what is your interview availability" to "position on hold, we'll get back to you in a few weeks". fuk now I'm all depressed again it's not about you
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it's not about you wait isn't that what you say when it really is them???
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yo so how do i know when javascript will reflow/redraw/rere whatever
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Jun 4, 2014 21:50
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you don't, its up to the browser
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FamDav posted:yo so how do i know when javascript will reflow/redraw/rere whatever you mean detect changes to the DOM?
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FamDav posted:yo so how do i know when javascript will reflow/redraw/rere whatever you don't, owned e: oh i guess someone answered that
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Valeyard posted:you mean detect changes to the DOM? just because the DOM doesn't change doesn't mean the browser won't reflow. and just because the DOM changes doesn't mean a reflow will happen. to get that level of awareness and control over the interface you'd have to make a legacy deprecated obsolete desktop app and who's willing to do that? this is web 42.0 (moved to semi-monthly releases in 2013)
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no i mean like lets say i do some some poo poo like $(selector).removeClass(class0).addClass(class1) can i make any guarantees on the page never showing those elements w/out class1 or what
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haha you just said "guarantee" while talking about the web
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FamDav posted:no i mean like lets say i do some some poo poo like why would you do that.
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lol. that is from the jquery documentation. the web is so bad.
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