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England seems way to complicated and should probably be abolished.
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It was in 1707, but nobody got the message. If Spain had their way and only allowed sovereign states with international recognition to field international soccer teams this would have probably come to a head a while back.
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Guavanaut posted:It was in 1707, but nobody got the message. didn't know spain wanted to lose the world cup so badly
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FreudianSlippers posted:England seems way to complicated and should probably be abolished. Here's a partial explanation of parts of the most recent changes to how "London" was legally formed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAusbJmRB0c Just like some parts of the US, a lot of areas managed to get themselves excluded from new forms of London in order to be able to dodge taxation authority that would be granted!
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Well yeah, you've aready explained that London is a tiny town (a villae, really) of about 3 square kilometer.
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FreudianSlippers posted:England seems way to complicated and should probably be abolished.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9qlNBBoFG4 Ancient Rome had problems keeping city borders updated, too.
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Guavanaut posted:If Spain had their way and only allowed sovereign states with international recognition to field international soccer teams this would have probably come to a head a while back. Let me guess, this came up when Gibraltar wanted to join FIFA?
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https://twitter.com/SonerCagaptay/status/1156541859289804800
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That Cycladic island only ruled by the Ottomans for 99 years is Tinos, a very unique place. Here's some fun words about it: https://www.greektravel.com/greekislands/tinos/introduction.htm
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That's bait.
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TinTower posted:Let me guess, this came up when Gibraltar wanted to join FIFA?
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I hope someone makes the reverse of this map too. Would make even less sense, but I'd still laugh.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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what's the little white part on the bottom that remained independent in the mainland
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it's the Mani peninsula apparently
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It's isolated by mountains, poor, rural, and generally doesn't have anything worth conquering. It was the last holdout of the worship of the Olympian gods for the same reason.
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Aug 3, 2019 19:34
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They basically paid tribute to the Ottomans, who figured, sure, why not. Be as independent as you want.
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Ionian Islands are the true Greece (ignore the italians)
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Epicurius posted:They basically paid tribute to the Ottomans, who figured, sure, why not. Be as independent as you want. I can't imagine that the Ottomans saw much practical difference between "obedient taxpaying people under our rule" and "peaceful tribute-paying people who do what we say even if they're not officially imperial territory."
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buddhist nudist posted:I can't imagine that the Ottomans saw much practical difference between "obedient taxpaying people under our rule" and "peaceful tribute-paying people who do what we say even if they're not officially imperial territory." Not enough difference to spill blood over at any rate.
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Also notable is that much of the territory that was otherwise unconquered by the Ottomans was was taken over by Venice.
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Montenegro is kinda weird in that regard, it was technically conquered by both, but it was sort of like a mini-Afghanistan in terms of how much trouble it was to actually hold. I don't remember the exact quote, but an Ottoman general said something along the lines of "We send a regiment, they get slaughtered, we send an army, they starve."
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Squalid posted:Some options would be the west coasts of most dry tropical deserts. Lima, Peru is pretty drat close to what you want, with very frequent fog and very moderate tropical temperatures. Slightly colder than you desire at some times of the year, but pretty close: Lima's weather is nice except for those 3 months of summer, it gets to 32 celcius, which is not good with the ocean next to you.
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my dad posted:Montenegro is kinda weird in that regard, it was technically conquered by both, but it was sort of like a mini-Afghanistan in terms of how much trouble it was to actually hold. I don't remember the exact quote, but an Ottoman general said something along the lines of "We send a regiment, they get slaughtered, we send an army, they starve." “Montenegro is a tiny country with very strong people. They’re very aggressive people.” --Donald J. Trump, very stable genius
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 I have to wonder who the designed Cornol's coat of arms. Like how did that ever even happen. E: On Cornol's website: "Ecusson : Origine hypothétique: Cornol porte dans ses armes trois têtes de Maures rappelant les légions africaines au service des Romains (bâtisseurs et constructeurs des routes pour les Romains)." Tr: "Coat of arms: theory of origin: Cornol's coat of arms has three Moor's heads, recalling the African legions in service of the Romans (builders of roads for the Romans)" That seems... like quite a stretch? But I can't think of any other reasonable explanation either, given that it's a tiny village that probably never had a population above 200 and it's in the middle of nowhere in the Jura foothills that occasionally changed hands between France, Basel, and Bern. Saladman fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Aug 5, 2019 |
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The moor's head is a very old (like from the high middle ages) heraldic symbol so probably just some guy had it in his coat of arms but because he's been lost to history their only option is fanciful stories
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Minenfeld! posted:"AH-peets" or "UH-peets" apparently. Ah-beets. It’s really, really good. It’s descended from “tomato pies” made without cheese by Italian immigrants in New Haven. Some distinguishing characteristics: - rough shaped crust, never perfectly round - order by the pie, not the slice - remember to ask for cheese if you want it Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Frank Pepe’s Clam Pie for life.
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The Moors head was a heraldic symbol used by the crown of Aragon at some point.
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Kurtofan posted:The Moors head was a heraldic symbol used by the crown of Aragon at some point. That one actually makes sense though, I’m sure they beheaded no shortage of Moors in Aragon. Probably not so much in Basel. Although why they represent the heraldic Moor as a sub Saharan black person is kind of odd, but I guess some things get lost in translation, like Othello.
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Saladman posted:
Corsica and Sardinia have Moor's Heads as well, Corsica just the one on white and Sardinia 4 on a red cross
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Peanut President posted:Corsica and Sardinia have Moor's Heads as well, Corsica just the one on white and Sardinia 4 on a red cross Corsica's comes from the time it was under Aragon rule. I don't know about Sardinian history, but considering the proximity, it's probably related. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Aug 6, 2019 |
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Saladman posted:That one actually makes sense though, I’m sure they beheaded no shortage of Moors in Aragon. Probably not so much in Basel. I mean yeah, most likely it was some on some rulers coat of arms and it caught on. I don't know if Aragon ever owned Basel territory (I doubt it), but it's gotta be something like that.
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Cat Mattress posted:“Montenegro is a tiny country with very strong people. They’re very aggressive people.” --Donald J. Trump, very stable genius ?
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Saladman posted:That one actually makes sense though, I’m sure they beheaded no shortage of Moors in Aragon. Probably not so much in Basel. Some christian king invited fourth muslims kings to a meeting, but was a trap, and he made the soldiers cut his heads. Wellcome to Crusaders Kings 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9UnQa0m8pQ&t=20s
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There’s also a different, more explicit kind of moors head on the coat of arms of Evora, a Portuguese city. jfc
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Falukorv posted:jfc Or, as they say in Germany, kruzitürken.
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