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ManlyGrunting posted:God this comic is so close to being good 
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There's a certain appeal to this guy who when asked to give sage advice to a troubled demigod, he decides to gently caress around and further confuse her. There's a certain defeatism involved, he can't stop her and she's probably going to ruin everything for everyone no matter what he does, so might as well make fun of her. Or at least that's why he would be doing this if it were better written.
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Jan 22, 2017 15:13
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Skellybones posted:There's a certain appeal to this guy who when asked to give sage advice to a troubled demigod, he decides to gently caress around and further confuse her. There's a certain defeatism involved, he can't stop her and she's probably going to ruin everything for everyone no matter what he does, so might as well make fun of her. No, he actually is trying to help, although he is also making fun of her. His point seems to be "you're always going to feel bad about what you do if you can't figure out what the rule you're living by actually is."
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Jan 22, 2017 15:23
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No, I like my version more
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Jan 22, 2017 15:37
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Both his initial hand-patting and the conclusion of his self-debate are pretty bluntly telling her she made the right decision 
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Jan 22, 2017 20:05
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Flesh Forge posted:Both his initial hand-patting and the conclusion of his self-debate are pretty bluntly telling her she made the right decision I mean not to defend the comic (because its dumb), but the hand patting was before he knew what she did, when all he knew was that she was sad
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Jan 22, 2017 22:10
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He thought it was going to be some regular university moping, now he knows she's kidnapping people he's just trying to get out of here without her snapping his neck or anything.
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Jan 22, 2017 23:37
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for some reason the writer is having her focus on the incident with max, which isn't interesting at all because it was contrived and not actually that much of a big deal and had mostly positive effects in the end so the only fallout is going to be that maybe allison will feel like she's a bad person from a philosophical standpoint, instead of the way more serious and interesting ethical dilemma which is that her supervillain ex is kidnapping, drugging and mind-mugging physicists to learn time travel for unspecified purposes and she for some reason is not doing anything to stop him and doesn't seem to particularly care
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Jan 22, 2017 23:42
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I'm hoping she goes back to class and finds the prof gave her an A for the whole semester. It would break her. 
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Jan 23, 2017 00:02
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Synthbuttrange posted:I'm hoping she goes back to class and finds the prof gave her an A for the whole semester. It would break her. Better yet, it turns out he's not a real professor, so she's torn whether or not his insightful advice was actually good.
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Jan 23, 2017 00:21
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You get what you pay for.
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Jan 23, 2017 00:43
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Mazerunner posted:I mean not to defend the comic (because its dumb), but the hand patting was before he knew what she did, when all he knew was that she was sad Sure, but then the conclusion of his self-debate is to look straight at Allison (and the reader) and say "unless We Are All In This Together!" Yes he presented various arguments both ways, but that's the grand finale. It's not ambiguous at all.
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Jan 23, 2017 01:00
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Avshalom posted:for some reason the writer is having her focus on the incident with max, which isn't interesting at all because it was contrived and not actually that much of a big deal and had mostly positive effects in the end so the only fallout is going to be that maybe allison will feel like she's a bad person from a philosophical standpoint, instead of the way more serious and interesting ethical dilemma which is that her supervillain ex is kidnapping, drugging and mind-mugging physicists to learn time travel for unspecified purposes and she for some reason is not doing anything to stop him and doesn't seem to particularly care My theory: That's a lot harder to write, plus it does not involve torturing rich libertarian shitbirds
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Jan 23, 2017 01:01
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Flesh Forge posted:My theory: That's a lot harder to write, plus it does not involve torturing rich libertarian shitbirds my theory: max had to return to his home planet
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Jan 23, 2017 01:09
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Flesh Forge posted:Sure, but then the conclusion of his self-debate is to look straight at Allison (and the reader) and say "unless We Are All In This Together!" Yes he presented various arguments both ways, but that's the grand finale. It's not ambiguous at all. and literally follows it up right away with "and that's what a tyrant would say" sorry dude this comic is crap but so is your reading comprehension
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Jan 23, 2017 01:18
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I guess you could try to take some "truth is in the middle" meaning from that but he goes on to explain that maybe tyrants are actually not bad, like that old Lincoln rascal. He is not a very good Jimminy Cricket at all.
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Jan 23, 2017 01:56
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t-rexes were p rad i guess
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Jan 23, 2017 18:37
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i genuinely like the insane philosophy professor and wish he was the main character
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Jan 23, 2017 22:55
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He's been more fun than most of the recent stuff, yes.
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Jan 24, 2017 00:09
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:t-rexes were p rad i guess Giant monster lizards? Yeah.
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Jan 24, 2017 10:29
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Jan 24, 2017 10:40
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Professor is best character.
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Jan 24, 2017 10:45
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THANK YOU. Finally someone called her on her bullshit morality.
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Jan 24, 2017 11:00
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He is speaking for me. Now if ge could only say that the story has gone on for way too long. e: This is why it's dumb to focus on what idiot an author must be if they write a terrible story. They might not be that stupid. (Even if they are idiots it's still dumb to talk on and on about it.) BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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Jan 24, 2017 11:49
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The professor makes some good points, but unfortunately the situation is not much of a grey area. His mono/dialogue would have worked for Batman who tortured a petty criminal guy to get to Penguin, or with Superman who beat up seemingly reformed Lex Luthor on some suspicion. Here, it's like with the white supremacist guy who got punched in the face. Even if you oppose violence, it's hard to care about this specific instance too much, because it's very minor and the victim is a bit poo poo. The strawman Clevin Fountainhead wasn't too far from a nazi in terms of personal ideology and general insufferableness, and his all things considered mild coercion had no negative consequences as far as we know. Maybe if she also remembered the flamethrower hero she killed at the hospital, then maybe the whole remorse think could make more sense. Because he's completely dead, unlike the rich dude who is still very much alive and well. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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Jan 24, 2017 12:05
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Nice setup Dr. Jerkshoes, there's no way that will lead to a triumphant epiphany on the next page
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Jan 24, 2017 14:59
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Now it's a shonen manga. There are worse directions this could have taken.
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Paladinus posted:The strawman Clevin Fountainhead wasn't too far from a nazi in terms of personal ideology and general insufferableness, and his all things considered mild coercion had no negative consequences as far as we know. That guy was a tosser but Allison has now created a precedence (assuming it already wasn't in effect somewhere in the world) where a person can have their civil rights (assuming their country respects those) violated in order to utilize their ability for the greater good. (Is this enough parenthetical statements?). Like it or not, he had a choice on whether or not to use his powers and he chose not too. That happens all the time everywhere in the world; people who can choosing not too for personal reasons. Feral volunteered for her service because she wanted to do some good not just shave off time from her jail sentence. And as far as we know nobody coerced her into perpetual torture. Max however was now forced to use his powers and I don't think that could be considered Mild or no negative consequences. Now he has to live in with the realized fear of people coming to his house in the dead of night, black bagging him, and taking wherever to do whatever they want. Would you feel like the situation was less justified if Max wasn't a completely unlikable strawman?
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Jan 24, 2017 17:14
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I hope she embraces it and the comic becomes about her flying around breaking kneecaps and dislocating shoulders of the 1% and taking their poo poo and giving it to broke rear end people all over the world, that'd be OK
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Brought To You By posted:Max however was now forced to use his powers and I don't think that could be considered Mild or no negative consequences. Now he has to live in with the realized fear of people coming to his house in the dead of night, black bagging him, and taking wherever to do whatever they want. Yeah, this event is likely to be life changing and traumatic for Max and if he weren't a bastard it would be harder to make an argument that Allison's action could be justified. Since the comic wants to have that argument, it's easier if Max is completely unlikable. Though it certainly could have been done without resorting to that. Also the dude's mom is a congresswoman with influence, and he has vast riches/connections at his disposal. He may not be able to get to Allison directly but he could easily gently caress up a lot of people she cares about. There is still plenty of room for lots of consequences. I'm glad the prof is pushing her to make a choice one way or the other and decide for herself. It's a good outcome from this conversation.
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Jan 25, 2017 06:15
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Max will never be seen again after this chapter.
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Jan 25, 2017 07:25
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Max will realize that he should work to do good, and thanks Allison for making him a better person.
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Jan 25, 2017 07:31
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Allison will get distracted and get obsessed over something else really dumb
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Jan 25, 2017 08:26
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Max will realize that he should work to do good, and thanks Allison for making him a better person. I'd honestly be pretty down with that but no way he makes it out of this chapter alive.
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Jan 25, 2017 08:57
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Flesh Forge posted:Max will never be seen again after this chapter. We'll see his corpse washing down a river and no one will care.
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Jan 25, 2017 11:59
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 Is this trying to go for a 'words and intents are meaningless unless you can force them upon others in one fashion or another' moral
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Somebody pointed out to me that one of the earliest pages of the comic showed Allison's catchphrase to be "Might Makes Right!" I read it at the time and forgot about it.
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