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Grumio posted:Malagor also has a giant as one of his starting units Lol jesus christ 
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Jul 27, 2016 23:05
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I don't know, I kind of like the idea of starting with Minotaurs better. Of all the new units on the Beastmen roster they're the ones I most want to try. I've already used Giants in the Chaos and Greenskin campaigns. Starting with a Cygor would have been a lot cooler.
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Jul 27, 2016 23:07
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That's the best time to have a giant. You'll be fighting all the battles manually anyway so the giant won't be brutally slain by three rounds of autoresolve against garrison trash.
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Jul 27, 2016 23:07
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I get the feeling Beastmen leadership will be iffy, so starting with the + vs humans sounds like it'll help.
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Jul 27, 2016 23:16
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Fangz posted:I get the feeling Beastmen leadership will be iffy, so starting with the + vs humans sounds like it'll help. Gods I think that beastmen vs Dwarves is just going to be a loving massacre.
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Jul 27, 2016 23:53
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In games past you've been able to do multi-player on these mini campaigns right?
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Jul 27, 2016 23:55
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And killing the Dwarfs is one of the campaign goals! I'd probably start with Malagor to try to kill the Dwarf main faction as soon as possible, also he looks way cooler.
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Jul 27, 2016 23:56
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Minotaurs do a diving roll as part of their charge animation 
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Jul 28, 2016 00:28
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I'm going to start with the mini-campaign, which probably means I'm going with Malagor on the grand campaign later.
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Jul 28, 2016 00:33
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I wonder how the Beastmen will spawn in as an AI faction. Will it just be One Eye in Toboro? I'm 100% down with an additional threat for the human lands. Kind of enjoy the Dwarf/Greenskin campaigns being so out of the way though, not sure I want a random Malagor existing down there with me.
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Jul 28, 2016 00:42
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Deified Data posted:If I start with Malagor I'm definitely booking it out of the Badlands ASAP. The Greenskins will be useful to keep around to pressure the Dwarfs and the Orcs have no civilization to defile anyway. I'll probably cross the sea and harass the Border Princes first. Also note that the first step of Malagor's first piece of quest gear is to raid one of the empire's lands. I think it's worded such that you can fight your way out of the badlands, burn the border princes to the ground, and just raid Averland since it's historically an empire territory even if Karl Franz isn't in direct dominion over it.
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Jul 28, 2016 00:53
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Rookersh posted:I wonder how the Beastmen will spawn in as an AI faction. Will it just be One Eye in Toboro? Anything that shakes up the inevitable dwarf or orc uncontested domination of the southeast of the map is fine with me. I was hoping the savage orc hordes would be a bit more threatening than they are.
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Jul 28, 2016 00:55
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ZearothK posted:And killing the Dwarfs is one of the campaign goals! You can always try diplomacy to power up greenskins to fight the dwarves for you.
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Jul 28, 2016 00:55
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drat Dirty Ape posted:Anything that shakes up the inevitable dwarf or orc uncontested domination of the southeast of the map is fine with me. I was hoping the savage orc hordes would be a bit more threatening than they are. You've never seen the top knotz on the warpath
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Jul 28, 2016 01:09
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Beastmen and Greenskins seem like natural allies. I wonder what their diplomatic situation with the Warriors of Chaos will be...
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Jul 28, 2016 01:11
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Having not played a horde faction before, I'm looking forward to producing units at my armies with me instead of making long treks for reinforcements. Not worrying about holding indefensible locations will be nice too.
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Jul 28, 2016 01:12
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As Chaos I've actually managed to make an alliance with the Savage Orc respawning hordes a few times, which was interesting. I'd sack a settlement, and they'd follow behind and raze it.
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Jul 28, 2016 01:13
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Orcs are the useful idiots of the Old World.
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Jul 28, 2016 01:16
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Fangz posted:As Chaos I've actually managed to make an alliance with the Savage Orc respawning hordes a few times, which was interesting. I'd sack a settlement, and they'd follow behind and raze it. Word. In my Chaos game I allied the Orcs that respawn in the Empire and they were my best allies by far.
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Jul 28, 2016 01:21
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Is there any consensus on how to fix a broken grudge? I currently have a grudge to assassinate a member of teef snatchaz who were just confederated.
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Jul 28, 2016 06:18
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The characters and armies are absorbed by the new faction, is it possible they're still there?
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Jul 28, 2016 07:23
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Fangz posted:As Chaos I've actually managed to make an alliance with the Savage Orc respawning hordes a few times, which was interesting. I'd sack a settlement, and they'd follow behind and raze it. In my current VC campaign, both Greenskins and the big Savage Orc faction thats always a pain in the rear end had 'Vampiric Persuasion' or whatever the trait was. I have them both as Vassals and the Dwarfs are actually holding them both off. It's an interesting campaign.
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Jul 28, 2016 07:49
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MilitantBlackGuy posted:In my current VC campaign, both Greenskins and the big Savage Orc faction thats always a pain in the rear end had 'Vampiric Persuasion' or whatever the trait was. I have them both as Vassals and the Dwarfs are actually holding them both off. It's an interesting campaign. Does the relations bonus tech have anything to do with that or is it just random?
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Jul 28, 2016 07:52
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Guys I know this game is awesome. It is obviously deep and amazing and great. But I don't know what in the gently caress I am doing. Is there a consensus beginner manual or tutorial or something (even if it is for a prior TW game) that can get me started? I'm coming around on the battling part, I think, but the campaign stuff is like bizarro Civilization without any guidance whatsoever. I would very much appreciate it.
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Jul 28, 2016 07:53
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beergod posted:Guys I know this game is awesome. It is obviously deep and amazing and great. But I don't know what in the gently caress I am doing. Is there a consensus beginner manual or tutorial or something (even if it is for a prior TW game) that can get me started? I'm coming around on the battling part, I think, but the campaign stuff is like bizarro Civilization without any guidance whatsoever. I would very much appreciate it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC0Xc3ZNzBU Its not a very entertaining channel but this guy has loads of videos that show and explain all sorts of weird total war mechanics that a player new to the franchise would have no way of knowing and this video talks a lot about how combat actually works which is maybe the most important and one of the most underexplained parts of the game Also if you're interested in multiplayer forums poster Yukitsu has put up guides for all the races that gives really elaborate rundowns of all their units and abilities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSmd8cx6nWQ 420 Gank Mid fucked around with this message at 08:27 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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Jul 28, 2016 08:24
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Fwiw I played Medieval 2 then nothing until Rome 2, and I barely played that because so much had changed and I didn't get it at all. In contrast TWW seems a lot more intuitive so hopefully it'll come to you soon enough.
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Jul 28, 2016 08:52
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The DLC releases today at 2pm BST according to the official twitter. That's 4 and a half hours from now.
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Jul 28, 2016 09:37
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John Charity Spring posted:The DLC releases today at 2pm BST according to the official twitter. That's 4 and a half hours from now. That sucks, I was hoping to get some time in before work. Oh well.
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Jul 28, 2016 13:10
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420 Gank Mid posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC0Xc3ZNzBU Seconding Party Elite's channel. TW:W was my very first Total War and his channel was instrumental in understanding just what the gently caress I was doing.
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Jul 28, 2016 13:21
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DLC now unlocked and downloaded, around 3,2 GBs.
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Jul 28, 2016 14:02
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Fuuuck and of course i have the evening shift this week! Gonna start with grand campaign and kazrakh first.
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Jul 28, 2016 14:06
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DeathSandwich posted:You can always try diplomacy to power up greenskins to fight the dwarves for you. I think they said somewhere in one of the preview videos that they start neutral with Chas
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Jul 28, 2016 14:18
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Dre2Dee2 posted:I think they said somewhere in one of the preview videos that they start neutral with Chas Yeah, they can choose if they want to ally with chaos or tell them to blow. I'm personally leaning toward the latter. Archaeon can can get trampled under my horned goat hoof like all the others.
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Jul 28, 2016 14:37
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Interestingly you take a hit to bestial rage when you perform positive diplomatic options. They need to make this a thing for Greenskins, too.
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Jul 28, 2016 14:44
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Ok, so it seems that the condition you needed to unlock Sarthorael was completing a grand campaign, it just unlocked for me when I entered the game.
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Jul 28, 2016 14:52
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Angry Lobster posted:Ok, so it seems that the condition you needed to unlock Sarthorael was completing a grand campaign, it just unlocked for me when I entered the game. Same. Just did a quick match before bedtime. Seems like the beastman units are all about the charge. I want to have a try with it tomorrow to see if I can get a proper massive wave going for a single mega charge.
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Jul 28, 2016 15:01
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Centigors are immune to vigor when their leadership is high, letting you gallop all over the map as long as you want. Any other units have the Rowdy ability?
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Jul 28, 2016 15:03
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Initial review of the expansion (Because from looking at it that's what it is.): loving awesome. Minotaurs are hilarious. Get them as soon as possible. They're like cavalry that can actually stand in a fight and have the insane offensive power of VC's monsters. Watching them just go horns down and plow through a unit of spearmen is great.
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Jul 28, 2016 15:16
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Any Nvidia users care to report on the performance in DX12 now?
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Jul 28, 2016 15:28
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Lord unlocks for those that are curious: For Malagor, you have to build the T3 magic building. For Khazrac, you gotta sacrifice captives 10 times. CA has been hinting that something happens if you complete Eye for an Eye but uh, get back to you on that much later. According to the dude that's been sperging about spell mechanics, spells are major buffed in general. Example Black Sun has +50% AP Damage and +30% AOE over the old version. Also as previously noted spell cooldowns are mostly way higher but the second level spell points reduce cooldowns by 50% now instead of 15%. madmac fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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Jul 28, 2016 15:30
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