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Nenonen posted:"Stalin? How many tank divisions does he have?" If only Cesare Borgia hadn't gotten the flu.
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Ensign Expendable posted:3.7 cm Pak Vickers Mk.E, please!
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  This is not a plane on fire.  quote:As early as the end of 1939, Leutnant Stahl, Technical Officer at the KG 51, proposed to attack intercepting fighters by means of flames mounted in the rear of the bombers and reconnaissance aircraft. The intercepting fighters would have to push into the ejected pitch black oil cloud, so that its cabin windows were suddenly blinded. In February 1940, corresponding experiments with He 111 and Ju 88 took place at the test site in Tarnewitz. The unit was then also tried at the beginning of the Russian campaign in the KG 51, but does not appear to have been employed by the troops. As an offensive weapon the flamethrower »Gero were 11" A, B and C used in the Fw 190 for low-level attacks. Nenonen fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Oct 16, 2016 |
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any insane idea i can think of has already been thought of, right?
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HEY GAL posted:any insane idea i can think of has already been thought of, right? Have you even fought as a pikeman... on weed? 
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Is there nothing on Italian tanks on that site? I <3 those 
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Oct 16, 2016 20:11
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Please post lyrics to good historical cadence songs from different countries and eras. Hey Gal I'm looking at you.
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Oct 17, 2016 02:27
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Animal posted:Please post lyrics to good historical cadence songs from different countries and eras. Hey Gal I'm looking at you. I have led cadence to California Dreamin'.
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Animal posted:Please post lyrics to good historical cadence songs from different countries and eras. Hey Gal I'm looking at you. I don't have the text as I do not speak russian. Maybe EE can translate?
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Grand Prize Winner posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIX0eIF23cU What text?
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Grand Prize Winner posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIX0eIF23cU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Qhbdijv5Y
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:If only Cesare Borgia hadn't gotten
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Animal posted:Please post lyrics to good historical cadence songs from different countries and eras. Hey Gal I'm looking at you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Dj_BUUhAU Listen to the drum--pace was much slower then, and despite what the video says I have no idea why.
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I'm not sure how this was supposed to have worked: quote:The tradition of assigning names to anti-tank guns in Germany is interesting in and of itself. Initially, they were called Tankabwehrkanone (Tak or T. for short), which made it obvious what they were used for. In order to conceal the re-armament program, the Supreme Command of the Ground Forces changed the name to Panzerabwehrkanone (Pak), overriding all previous names. Will anyone seriously fail to see that a Panzerabwehrkanone is in fact a weapon as much as a Tankabwehrkanone ? There are some military designations that obviously meant to thwart legal or bureaucratic rules like the not-a-carrier-really-allowed-to-cross-the-Bosporus Large Aircraft Carrying Cruiser or the not-a-cruiser-just-really-really-big US Destroyers. But this seems wishful thinking.
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CeeJee posted:I'm not sure how this was supposed to have worked: I think the point was so that other nations didn't know you were building tanks (with cannons). "We're not building TANK guns, we're building ANTI-TANK guns. See? We're being passive and defensive!"
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Jobbo_Fett posted:I think the point was so that other nations didn't know you were building tanks (with cannons). Wouldn't work. The -abwehr part means anti- just like with Flugabwehrkanone (FlaK) etc. Tank guns otoh were called Kampfwagenkanone (KwK), or Sturmkanone (StuK) for assault gun versions. I thought it just meant that they changed the naming to temporarily obfuscate the meanings for those uninitiated, but let's wait for EE to clarify.
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CeeJee posted:I'm not sure how this was supposed to have worked: I thought that "Tank" in German specifically referred to WWI style landships while "Panzer" referred to the modern tanks and armoured vehicles? Hence why you would replace "tank" with "panzer" over time as nomenclature changed.
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If you say "Tank" in german you mean gasoline tank, but you can use it to denote any other large vessel that's used to store liquids and the likes. Wassertank, Gastank e.g. Panzer is not synonymous with Tank in german.
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'Panzer' literally means armor, doesn't it? Going by Swedish which is pretty close. In Swedish a tank is stridsvagn (battle wagon), I assume the full name for a tank in German is panzerkampfwagen or something (armored battle wagon?).
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WW2 Data Italy's projectiles are done! But we've still got cartridge cases and mines/grenades later. For this upgrade, we've got another series of guns to talk about. The 210/8mm projectiles appear to belong to the Mortaio da 210/8 D.S. which was a heavy howitzer that entered service at the turn of the century, while the 210/22mm rounds refer to the Obice da 210/22, in service beginning in 1938. The 260/9mm rounds are from the Mortaio da 260/9 Mod. 16 which was actually a French heavy howitzer built by Schneider in 1916. The 360/8mm is from the Skoda 305 mm Model 1911, acquired either by capture or reparations. The 350/17mm rounds were used with the Obice da 305/17 coastal artillery. The 380/15mm refers to the 38 cm Belagerungshaubitze M 16 siege howitzer made by Austria-Hungary during WW1. The 420/12mm is another coastal artillery / siege howitzer - Škoda 42 cm Vz. 1914. For the mortar rounds, I believe the 240mm projectiles are for the 240 mm Trench Mortar, or at least modified ones, built by the French during WW1. At the moment, I can't seem to find anything on a 400mm Mortar  As for the projectiles, which round has a peculiar base? Which projectiles are similar to aircraft bombs? Check out the blog to find out!
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david_a posted:'Panzer' literally means armor, doesn't it? Going by Swedish which is pretty close. In Swedish a tank is stridsvagn (battle wagon), I assume the full name for a tank in German is panzerkampfwagen or something (armored battle wagon?). Yes, that's why you have the German designations such as PzKpfw IV.
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Oh by the way, this is a pretty cool use for tanks in urban combat
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Speaking of cadence marching tunes there are quite a few ones in Finnish, for example Eikä Me Olla Veljeksiä (We ain't brothers) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxmerimdOJM Vanha Kaarti Laulaa (The Old Guard sings) is the name of a record made in the 70's with old Finnish military marching tunes. The lyrics beneath are my translation, I'll do several others when I have the time. 1. We ain't brothers though' there's two of us, jalajallai jalajala vei vei vei, though' there's two of us. 2. Fair and ordinary mamas boys, from the other side of the bay, jalajallai jalajala vei vei vei, from the other side of the bay. 3. When the swallows fled to the south then we came here. jalajallai jalajala vei vei vei, then we came here. 4. We promised out brides to others, and our lives to Finland, jalajallai jalajala vei vei vei, and our lives to Finland. 5. If you, girls, miss us, it can't be helped, jalajallai jalajala vei vei vei, it can't be helped. 6. Crown's jewels (medals) on our breast now the best like us boys, jalajallai jalajala vei vei vei, the best like us boys. 7. The conscrip time ends soon, and it doesn't last long, jalajallai jalajala vei vei vei, and it doesn't last long. 8. Then well go to be civilians, and thank you for these times, jalajallai jalajala vei vei vei, and thank you for these times. Translating all kinds of proverbs (kruunun rossia rinnan päällä etc) is kinda hard, but I think you get the gist of it. This tune is from the 19th century, possibly from late 18th, but supposedly from the end of the Swedish rule of Finland.
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CeeJee posted:I'm not sure how this was supposed to have worked: No idea, maybe it was like the Tank vs. Combat Car situation in the US.
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"Panzer" means "armor" in German. If the story has any truth it might be something along the lines of "anti tank" weapons being banned so they started fielding "armor piercing" guns. That's a wild assed lunchtime guess based on nothing but language and coffee.
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Animal posted:Please post lyrics to good historical cadence songs from different countries and eras. Hey Gal I'm looking at you. quote:I've come shust now to tells you how, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUSJA-vtg_s Isn't that actually kind of dumb thing to do? You're deliberately exposing some of the most vulnerable portions of your very expensive vehicle to a bomb of unknown strength?
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Ataxerxes posted:Translating all kinds of proverbs (kruunun rossia rinnan päällä etc) is kinda hard, but I think you get the gist of it. This tune is from the 19th century, possibly from late 18th, but supposedly from the end of the Swedish rule of Finland. I believe it dates back to one of the wars with Ottomans - hence the borrowed expression jalla jalla! (hurry up) in every verse. 
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HEY GAL posted:A 17th century army is constantly losing strength no matter what you do, and its authorities are constantly recruiting in an attempt to make up for this. 
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Oct 17, 2016 19:50
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"Hey guys? you know whats neat! the army!" Thirty minutes later. "gently caress this, I'm bored and out!"
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PittTheElder posted:Isn't that actually kind of dumb thing to do? You're deliberately exposing some of the most vulnerable portions of your very expensive vehicle to a bomb of unknown strength? The tracks aren't all that vulnerable when it comes to an ordinary explosive charge that is not buried underground. An anti-tank mine is far more potent because it's in a hole in the ground - most of its energy is aimed directly up and hence will break a track and damage suspension and even more. But when the explosives are in a car between ground and a tank then the blast will seek the path of least resistance, and that is to all the other directions, even if the car bomb contains many times the explosive filler of an AT mine.
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SeanBeansShako posted:"Hey guys? you know whats neat! the army!" what was he doing? how did his friends take his return? 
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Nenonen posted:The tracks aren't all that vulnerable when it comes to an ordinary explosive charge that is not buried underground. An anti-tank mine is far more potent because it's in a hole in the ground - most of its energy is aimed directly up and hence will break a track and damage suspension and even more. But when the explosives are in a car between ground and a tank then the blast will seek the path of least resistance, and that is to all the other directions, even if the car bomb contains many times the explosive filler of an AT mine. Lots of antitank mines don't rely at all on being in a hole in the ground; artillery-deployed mines sure don't and neither would anything based on a shaped-charge or EFP, both of which regularly feature in IEDs. It's a really dangerous assumption that since it's not a buried mine it's safe to run over; even if the hull isn't penetrated breaking a track and getting stuck until a recovery vehicle can get to you is a big deal. That was probably a field-expedient refusal by people who had more important things to be doing with their day, not a doctrinally-approved way to clear mines.
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HEY GAL posted:one of my favorite things is to find a guy in a muster roll who's listed as having walked off and then see him a year or so later in the same company again How do you analyze and record these? This seems like a really cool data visualization project if you're familiar w/ some programming or stats language/software. Also, do you have to look through muster rolls manually? I wonder if there is any way to make it a little bit faster w. OCR or not.
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Fusion Restaurant posted:How do you analyze and record these? This seems like a really cool data visualization project if you're familiar w/ some programming or stats language/software. Also, do you have to look through muster rolls manually? I wonder if there is any way to make it a little bit faster w. OCR or not. edit: if you can help me make a bubble map and you'll be free before March 2017, please contact me
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FAUXTON posted:The Forever War Anyways, main point: I'm a sucker for anything to do with the train wreck of a life that was Christie so combat car/T3 please!
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HEY GAL posted:edit: if you can help me make a bubble map and you'll be free before March 2017, please contact me HEY GAL, I think I sent you a PM w/r/t bubble map. (I have not sent a PM before). Let me know if you got it.
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Animal posted:Please post lyrics to good historical cadence songs from different countries and eras. Hey Gal I'm looking at you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRuXA9rgNWU&t=26s quote:Undan, ur vägen här kommer vi beväringsgossar My (awful) translation - no attempt at getting the meter right but it should get the point across: quote:Aside, away, here we come, the drafted boys* In some versions "vi beväringsgossar" (we the drafted/conscripted boys) is instead "vi från gula gardet" (we from the yellow guard; cf. the yellow brigade, which should be in HEY GAL's comfort zone - the life guards traces its traditions to that). The melody was the official march of the royal Swedish life guards for a while in the late 18th century, and is today recognized by many Swedes solely because of
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Eela6 posted:HEY GAL, I think I sent you a PM w/r/t bubble map. (I have not sent a PM before). Let me know if you got it.
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