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Tobermory posted:Again....a white person demonstrating that they have also suffered from prejudice is not the best way for them to try to relate to people of color. I mean, everyone else outside this thread who has seen that first quote wad able to accurately discern that it was a joke about the absurdity and nonsequitorial nature of the request, rather than a serious "no, I will not respect black posters" retort.
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teen witch posted:Egypt and Africa might be a cool topic to discuss in a totally other thread! Yeah, sorry. Shouldn't have been digging up and rehashing earlier thread discussions and contributing to a derail by trolls. 
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SealHammer posted:But nobody forced posters to only post in the "blackness" thread when they wanted to discuss identity politics. The relevance of identity politics in any given issue is something that is going to be debated, and you have to be prepared to debate it at length if you bring it up. That's the nature of discourse. You do know some people aren't actually interested in real debate and will spin their wheels forever on topics they feel they know more about than black people right? That for some real discourse is actually impossible without some kind of real life impact shaking them out of their comfort zone and making them rethink their rigid beliefs? Who do you think is going to be better at figuring out whether someone is like that or coming into a discussion genuinely prepared to rethink things? Why should black posters put up endlessly with the wheel-spinning dipshits when on any other topic they'd be smacked in line?
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Ancient Egyptians were a hyper-isolated ethnic group whose civilization grew to encompass much of north-eastern Africa, through technologically superiority (specifically the chariot). There were black-skinned (Nubians) subjects of the Egyptian Empire, and at one point a Nubian rebellion overthrew the Egyptian dynasty and established their own dynasty, reunifying northern and southern Egypt. It was pretty rad and it eventually fell like all dynasties do. check it out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Dynasty_of_Egypt I don't know what any of this has to do with cultural appropriation. Was electing a Black POTUS cultural appropriation?
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You have a history of saying dumb things then being arrogant about it when people get pissed off, you've been constantly butthurt about being run out of the thread, and you've already made insulting shitposts elsewhere in this forum and you'll be really lucky to escape a ban for them. I don't think there was a single regular in that thread who hadn't gotten into it with negromancer so I don't know what your deal is.
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Akumu posted:They actually did force posters to do just that, by punishing them when they discussed it elsewhere. Links? I'm curious if this is because they were discussing it at all or if this is because of other reasons i.e. posters acting like shitheads.
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It's kinda funny how as soon as this sub-forum was made you can see the effects of gentrification happen in real time.
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420 Gank Mid posted:So now that this is a subforum, is this thread supposed to be the "USA Black people thread" and another the "international black thread"? That would actually be super interesting.
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Chilichimp posted:I don't know what any of this has to do with cultural appropriation. That was my original point. Nothing was about actual cultural appropriation even if the discussion about the history of that region took place.
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420 Gank Mid posted:So now that this is a subforum, is this thread supposed to be the "USA Black people thread" and another the "international black thread"? International African Americans, please No seriously, this is more of the general catchall thread.
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SealHammer posted:But nobody forced posters to only post in the "blackness" thread when they wanted to discuss identity politics. The relevance of identity politics in any given issue is something that is going to be debated, and you have to be prepared to debate it at length if you bring it up. That's the nature of discourse. This has been the only place where you sometimes can actually discuss it without people making GBS threads up the discussion and the moderation cocking things up. If you tried to have some of the discussions in this thread in uspol they'd get buried in unproductive poo poo so fast your head would spin. There's some discussions you can't have with dumbasses barging in and rejecting the basic facts of the discussion and you getting hammered because something something you're causing the disruption.
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SealHammer posted:But nobody forced posters to only post in the "blackness" thread when they wanted to discuss identity politics. My dude, they did. This has been said a thousand times over in this thread; this thread was created because blackness was deemed in-sympatico with the topics in USPOL. The black American experience, something ultimately shaped by politics and politicians, was pushed out of the American politics thread. As Morby said, this entire situation was handled as poorly as could be.
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teen witch posted:International African Americans, please hehe
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:You have a history of saying dumb things then being arrogant about it when people get pissed off, you've been constantly butthurt about being run out of the thread, and you've already made insulting shitposts elsewhere in this forum and you'll be really lucky to escape a ban for them. I don't think there was a single regular in that thread who hadn't gotten into it with negromancer so I don't know what your deal is. When have I been arrogant? I explicitly went out of my way to be accomodating and civil in the original arguing, and conceded points I felt I had been corrected about. I guess someone might misinterpret that first probation as me saying "lol ur shaking irl", but it was an honest and good-natured suggestion to someone who was spamming "GET OUT"
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teen witch posted:International African Americans, please Literally every troll in this thread IRL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT-dY1xQ58A
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The standard USPOL cycle of "talking about race": Someone posts a fairly well-reasoned anti-racist argument Some people respond, some in agreement, some picking at the argument for flaws or overgeneralization but politely and constructively Someone posts something that's either just plain racist or basic 101 poo poo like "appropriation is bullshit, can't exist, and anyone who disagrees is a whiner" Someone tells them to gently caress off, usually one of the black posters, and get probated for it Fin and after that happened enough times, a white dude posts a QCS thread and Negrotown is born
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zegermans posted:I don't know how the mod system works, is KM's power neutered to 6ers unless she gets a special plantation pass from whitey? iirc full-blown mods can do longer probations but need a site admin to clear any bans
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:The standard USPOL cycle of "talking about race": but appropriation is bullshit? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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zegermans posted:I don't know how the mod system works, is KM's power neutered to 6ers unless she gets a special plantation pass from whitey? I think KM is starting off with simple 6ers to sort of lube people up for the ban-hammer if they don't get their poo poo together.
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SealHammer posted:but appropriation is bullshit? Good question. No it isnt.
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420 Gank Mid posted:iirc full-blown mods can do longer probations but need a site admin to clear any bans Nope, longer probations also need to be approved by a site admin.
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420 Gank Mid posted:Good question. No it isnt. I think they mean the fact that it does happen is bullshit, not whether the concept is or not.
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Necroskowitz posted:Is it within a mod's power to appoint IKs to threads in their jurisdiction or is that an admin level ability? It could be a useful way to help KM delegate power. Mods choose them, but only the admins can make anyone an IK. And only some of the forums have IKs.
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It has started.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:I think they mean the fact that it does happen is bullshit, not whether the concept is or not. clever. optimistic, but,
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Epic as all hell.
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Koalas March posted:It has started. 
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*gambles all negrotown goodwill* Is that Rhianna? I can't quite tell.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:*gambles all negrotown goodwill*
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All that good will that this forum had when it started. Edit: Just noticed the new name. It's good.
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:All that good will that this forum had when it started. It's very good imho. It promotes people of all colors.
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zegermans posted:I don't know how the mod system works, is KM's power neutered to 6ers unless she gets a special plantation pass from whitey?
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7c Nickel posted:Hey, now that it's gone I'm kind of curious. Who was the random white guy in your old AV? He was the President of the my University. He retired now, so I took it down.
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why the hell was the Waifus of Color thread gassed? It was promoting women of color in anime. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Takane posted:why the hell was the Waifus of Color thread gassed? It was promoting women of color in anime. It was a low effort poo poo post. That's against the rules. It says 90% of low effort posts will be dealt with. You gambled and lost.
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Hi KM, I've started a black history thread, would you mind having a quick skim through the OP and letting me know if there's anything I should change/ add? e: it's here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3806595 Lobster God fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jan 20, 2017 |
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Gringostar posted:It's kinda funny how as soon as this sub-forum was made you can see the effects of gentrification happen in real time. actually this is more like what happened to rosewood than gentrification really
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Neurolimal posted:When have I been arrogant? I explicitly went out of my way to be accomodating and civil in the original arguing, and conceded points I felt I had been corrected about. I guess someone might misinterpret that first probation as me saying "lol ur shaking irl", but it was an honest and good-natured suggestion to someone who was spamming "GET OUT" Neurolimal posted:There are black skinned pharaohs. They are egyptian. This is one of those kinds of topics where it sounds like you mean well, but in actuality, it's basically pissing all over someone else. The problem with that analogy is that many would love to get in touch with their roots and do genealogies and all that to see what part of Africa they originate from, but records are spotty and a lot of people's heritage did not survive slavery. What it essentially argues is that our history begins around the 1600s with slavery. Now, I have only been to Africa once. I don't know where my family originally comes from. But if I ever found out, I would love to visit the area and learn something about the culture from that area.
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