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Timby posted:Von Trier is up there with Neveldine / Taylor with me: Far more concerned with "huh, this would be so cool" as opposed to actually telling a coherent story. Man, it's funny because I don't feel that way at all, in fact I think Von Trier is one of the most consistently engaging storytellers of our generation by a gigantic margin. His characters are so meaty and vivid and alive, and he pairs it so well with his narrative machinations, which I find extremely compelling - compare with Haneke, who I also enjoy but I find far too chilly, and Östlund, who has a similar knack for ramping up a scene but has trouble with structure (see also Lanthimos, who explores similar waters of what you could almost call psychotic disenchantment but puts language before action). K. Waste posted:2017 catch-up status report: I know it's just from my own calculated algorithmic suggestion chain but the "next video" for this was the MST3k episode "The Brain That Wouldn't Die".
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https://twitter.com/wigu/status/956354410464063488 Smack Down Your Vote
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I'm torn between never wanting or needing to watch Nymphomaniac ever again and also wanting to watch the five-and-a-half hour director's cut. Someday I'll get around to watching more of his movies. They sound interesting but they're also something i would have to be in a very specific mood to watch.
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GonSmithe posted:I saw the trailer for that once, it didn't look horrible. I'll probably check it out. It's definitely saccharine at times, and on these pinko forums it's going to be triggering a lot of well-founded criticism cause it's basically the definition of a hagiography that uses liberal indignation to distract from the fundamental economic divide between its filthy rich characters and the lives of the majority of people, able and differently-abled alike. But it's certainly not horrible. It's not as aesthetically unconventional or as bittersweet as The Diving Bell and the Butterfly or anything, but they both share the same fundamental aspiration that their stories define the most optimistic aspects of the human condition. And it's still really well shot. Magic Hate Ball posted:Man, it's funny because I don't feel that way at all, in fact I think Von Trier is one of the most consistently engaging storytellers of our generation by a gigantic margin. His characters are so meaty and vivid and alive, and he pairs it so well with his narrative machinations, which I find extremely compelling - compare with Haneke, who I also enjoy but I find far too chilly, and Östlund, who has a similar knack for ramping up a scene but has trouble with structure (see also Lanthimos, who explores similar waters of what you could almost call psychotic disenchantment but puts language before action). Hell yeah. Magic Hate Ball posted:I know it's just from my own calculated algorithmic suggestion chain but the "next video" for this was the MST3k episode "The Brain That Wouldn't Die". Hell yeah. DC Murderverse posted:I'm torn between never wanting or needing to watch Nymphomaniac ever again and also wanting to watch the five-and-a-half hour director's cut. It's the only way to watch it.
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Would I enjoy Blow-Up?
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2018 is gonna be buck wild, yo https://twitter.com/nytmetro/status/955982691098353665
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Man, it's funny because I don't feel that way at all, in fact I think Von Trier is one of the most consistently engaging storytellers of our generation by a gigantic margin. most definitely.
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I’ve been meaning to watch Nymphomaniac too but I just haven’t gotten to it yet. I like his other recent stuff, but I’d say my favorite of his is Breaking the Waves, though I haven’t seen it in years. I’m probably due for a rewatch. I think the only one that I dislike out of everything I’ve seen is Manderlay, but I also gave up on that after about 30 minutes. I’ve been meaning to check out Europa and Riget too. I can certainly see how the guy himself could get on someone’s nerves, but he’s one of my favorite current directors.
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24 Hours to Live kinda slaps, y'all
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talking of european directors, i keep waiting for the rediscovery of Until the End of the World as not only Wim Wenders' best film, but one of the best cyberpunk/postmodern movies ever. and that soundtrack, my god: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amH_W3AKAak
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Sir Kodiak posted:Would I enjoy Blow-Up? Probably not, but you should watch it anyways, it's amazing.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Would I enjoy Blow-Up? Have you seen and enjoyed Blow Out?
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Revenge was pretty rad. The other two movies I watched today (Damsel and Monsters and Men), not so much. Now waiting to get into Come Sunday. Nothing like going from a rape revenge movie to a biopic about a preacher.
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Anti-Christ is severe tryhard bullshit, and I know  so congrats to Von Trier for making a boring movie.
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LesterGroans posted:Have you seen and enjoyed Blow Out? No. Skwirl posted:Probably not, but you should watch it anyways, it's amazing. Hmm.
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I think you'll dig Blow Out more, because it's better. But Blow-Up is no slouch either. In conclusion, it's a land of contrasts.
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Melancholia is probably my favorite LVT film. After reading Bjork's not-so-veiled comments I don't think I can go back to him though. Also whoever was talking about Mudbound, that was a drat fine film and Dee Rees has now cemented herself as a filmmaker that is a guaranteed watch. The bookend scenes with the burial, goddamn. I think I have to back and check out Bessie
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LesterGroans posted:I think you'll dig Blow Out more, because it's better. Blow-Up is the one playing at a local theater, so I’m gonna see that, but I’ll check out Blow Out after. Thank you for your comments.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Just watch Blow Out.
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Skwirl posted:That's loving hilarious then. There's a little bit more to it than that because from the trailers it looked to be about how doing makeup tutorials helped her go from a gay man to an openly trans woman it's not literally just make up
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Okay, church, what's my bed time TCM watch tonight? Our Daily Bread (1934) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Daily_Bread_(1934_film) The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9jWfcfMpq8 One on One (1977) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFVKLgLiujY
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K. Waste posted:Okay, church, what's my bed time TCM watch tonight? How is it not automatically the Orson Welles flick?
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Melancholia is probably my favorite LVT film. After reading Bjork's not-so-veiled comments I don't think I can go back to him though. Skwirl posted:How is it not automatically the Orson Welles flick?
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Escobarbarian posted:I like Birdman very much but I can definitely see how it’s not for everyone. And the whole “lol critics r bad” thing is super lame Now it's been a while since I saw it, but the critic scene seems more about informing us about his character than any kind of broader general statement but iunno
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 (Would have started my venture into Pasolini's films with the Trilogy of Life, but they didn't have the Blu-rays)
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Sir Kodiak posted:Would I enjoy Blow-Up? Blow-Up is fantastic. Probably the most accessible Antonioni movie. Slow enough to be a good “slow movie”, but grabby enough to be a good thriller. Plus it’s directly responsible for at least a couple more of the best subsequent thrillers of the ‘70s and ‘80s (The Conversation, Blow Out, arguably Deep Red)
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Man, it's funny because I don't feel that way at all, in fact I think Von Trier is one of the most consistently engaging storytellers of our generation by a gigantic margin. Confession time: I bawled my eyes out at the end of Dancer in the Dark. I genuinely can't think of many other films that left me so emotionally shaken. So all these posts about von Trier being cold and emotionally distant feel so weird to me.
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bushisms.txt posted:How is it not about the story? The very first frame is a shot of jelly fish. Keaton talks about lying on the beach entangled in jelly fish. When he "kills" himself, we see the jelly fish strewn across the beach from his PoV. He ascends to heaven after settling his affairs. It's about him dying on the beach and instead of flashing back on his life, he's wondering how it could've been different. The one shot dream like takes are there to hammer home the almost purgatory state the world is in. "I might be watching movies wrong", eh? It could just be that I have a different subjective interpretation of an artwork, rear end in a top hat. I tried to explain why it wasn't about the story, but about the way in which the story was told. It's hard to articulate but if you don't (or don't want to) get it, I can't say much more to explain it. Maybe, at its simplest, it's not about the story but about the story-telling. I have a completely different take on Atonement to you. The Dunkirk shot took me out of the story and the movie: it was about admiring the shot rather than propelling the story along. As for the film itself, it makes the audience feel something about this beautiful romance, then tells you that it actually didn't exist and that everything you have felt up to now has been manufactured, and that you've been manipulated. I know that film manipulate viewers, but I don't want it shoved in my face, thanks. Samuel Clemens posted:Confession time: I bawled my eyes out at the end of Dancer in the Dark. I genuinely can't think of many other films that left me so emotionally shaken. So all these posts about von Trier being cold and emotionally distant feel so weird to me. You're right, his films are actually full of emotion, but those emotions are misanthropy, misogyny and smugness. I Before E posted:I feel like Lars Von Trier would be less divisive if he separated his formalism from his explorations of depression and suffering, because as is his films are both emotionally rough and formally alienating, which I love, especially in the case of Dogville, but I understand how that mixture can come off as coldly exploitative, especially given how shittily he comes off in interviews. Nicely put.
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Samuel Clemens posted:Confession time: I bawled my eyes out at the end of Dancer in the Dark. I genuinely can't think of many other films that left me so emotionally shaken. So all these posts about von Trier being cold and emotionally distant feel so weird to me. I think people are more upset with Bjork recently saying he sexually assaulted her during the making of Dancer in the Dark. Before that it was that he was trying too hard to be edgy in interviews and acted all pissy because people got upset when he may or may not have said he was cool with Hitler. (He said that he "understood" or "related" to Hitler or something like that at Cannes, and it started a bunch of weird bullshit.) But to address specifically that he's "Cold and emotionally distant" seems to ring true with personal interactions. He commands his actors respect, but he sounds like a lovely person to work with. Imagine if Stanley Kubrick treated everyone he worked with like he did Shelly Duvall on the set of The Shining. That's Von Trier. I really like Nymphomaniac and Dogville, but after Bjork's thinly veiled accusations towards him, I don't think I could watch either of them again, given how much sexual assault occurs in both films.
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the most interesting thing Von Trier did was probably The Five Obstructions. it also feels most like the movie non Von Trier fans would like (i mean, i wouldn't consider myself a Von Trier fan but i liked it), although given that it has the most onscreen Von Trier of any of his movies i could be wrong. Dogville and Breaking the Waves are okay i guess but i don't really need to see them again. i do hear Riget is really good and intend on getting around to it someday. edit: i just looked up his upcoming movie The House that Jack Built and while Von Trier leaves me cold more often than not, I can't say i'm not curious about a '70s mind-of-a-serial killer movie starring Matt Dillon Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Egbert Souse posted:
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:the most interesting thing Von Trier did was probably The Five Obstructions. it also feels most like the movie non Von Trier fans would like (i mean, i wouldn't consider myself a Von Trier fan but i liked it), although given that it has the most onscreen Von Trier of any of his movies i could be wrong. Riget is one of the best things ever. It was on Netflix years back but now I don't know where to find it. Edit: derp. Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpiIKUT7QxY
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therattle posted:"I might be watching movies wrong", That you think a nice shot can't do both is why I say that. I bet you walked out of children of men.
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bushisms.txt posted:That you think a nice shot can't do both is why I say that. I bet you walked out of children of men. Where did I say a nice shot can't do both? I love Children of Men; I think it's an amazing film. I just don't think that Atonement does both, because Joe Wright is an overrated hack and Alfonso Cuaron isn't. So, you think that I watch films wrongly because my views don't coincide with yours, and you read things into what I've written which just aren't there. What next? I've just seen the text below your avatar. Quite.
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On last nights episode of Happy! a character named Smoothie revealed why he has that nickname, and I'm pretty stunned they showed what they showed.
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Slice of life: lol at my coworker parroting Jesse Ventura’s statement that Chris Kyle’s lie about clocking him ruined The Body’s life and that he’s no longer able to get work because of it.
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