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Concerned Citizen posted:I didn't expect him to. Take it up with someone who did. fair enough but perhaps take less umbrage at the anger over the hillary campaign hypocrisy on this topic
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Shear Modulus posted:Hillary Can Fix It 
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Raskolnikov38 posted:fair enough but perhaps take less umbrage at the anger over the hillary campaign hypocrisy on this topic I've been pretty clear since this topic first came up during primary that HFA was wrong to call it "funding the downballot", but I do think the idea that state parties suffered because of hvf is absolute bullshit.
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Buttgeig cant fool me with his diorama. He didnt even bother to paint the clock tower
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i was under the impression that despite going in looking like a Clinton stooge terry did actual good things in VA But idk I don't really care for the state, I heard they enforce speeding like you murdered a dude
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logikv9 posted:i was under the impression that despite going in looking like a Clinton stooge terry did actual good things in VA Terry owns, and also installed a kegerator in the gov mansion because he's good. Va also owns, even if the va police believe speeding is the equivalent to killing Jesus and will literally jail you and/or take your license
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ThndrShk2k posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3779366&perpage=40&pagenumber=180#pti3  I still can't get over how jeb looks like the child in this pic
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Homeless Friend posted:I still can't get over how jeb looks like the child in this pic he had the worst body language screamed "im not confident about anything"
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Homeless Friend posted:
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Jazerus posted:it's a florida thing He seems so happy. I'm happy for him.
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So what argument can I give someone who believes that the way for Americans to climb out of poverty/declining middle class lifestyles is to invest in stock and similar things? Is there really a feasible way for the stock market and 401Ks and the like to have huge gains quality of life? Especially due to the rising stock market?
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SKULL.GIF posted:am I the only one that sees the two ghosts of WTC 01 and 02 in this picture? Look closer, there's WTC 07 too, standing tall.
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SKULL.GIF posted:am I the only one that sees the two ghosts of WTC 01 and 02 in this picture? South Bend: Where The World Is Still Good
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punk rebel ecks posted:So what argument can I give someone who believes that the way for Americans to climb out of poverty/declining middle class lifestyles is to invest in stock and similar things? Americans Can't Afford Food Housing Education and Healthcare Where Are They Going to Get Money For Stocks Shear Modulus has issued a correction as of 05:26 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:So what argument can I give someone who believes that the way for Americans to climb out of poverty/declining middle class lifestyles is to invest in stock and similar things? if people are going to have more wealth (aka material goods), the economy producing more and producing more efficiently while distributing the wealth more equally is the path forward is there a difference between companies getting investment and expansion money from stocks and a company turning a profit and investing into expansion because of increased business? I dunno I'm not an economist and maybe I'm just a dumbass
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the democrats are really good at raising lots of money, spending lots of money, and not getting results -concerned citizen, 2017
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Shear Modulus posted:Americans Can't Afford Food, Housing and Healthcare Where Are They Going to Get Money For Stocks I meant for middle class/lower middle class Americans. Why can't they save say $250 per year, and invest that to stocks which have an average of 7% per return on investment.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:the democrats are really good at raising lots of money, spending lots of money, and not getting results I would agree that Dems fundraising prowess often exceeds their campaign talent.
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stocks are dumb but I say this as a person who can't manage anything bigger than 30 bucks on predictit
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logikv9 posted:stocks are dumb but I say this as a person who can't manage anything bigger than 30 bucks on predictit is that all you bet on hillary?
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actually I gained it all betting big and winning it for the Iowa primary but then losing basically all of it in TRUMP No Primaries Won YES
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i reinvested some amount back into other things like the dem primary result and the general election result but idk how much it was, I kept forgetting to check it  I am bad at fiscal responsibility
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punk rebel ecks posted:I meant for middle class/lower middle class Americans. and get 17 bucks? If you want to get enough money to raise up your lifestyle you have to keep the investments in stocks. this can help for retirement I guess but it's not like you're getting tons of spending money by investing in stocks that is immediately going to impact your life.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I meant for middle class/lower middle class Americans. Well let's see I'll fire up the ol Excel and see how much $250 a year invested over a lifetime with your interest rate assumption will get you: =FV(.07, 50, -250) oh turns out it's $101,632.23. That might be enough for a retired couple to live on for what, five years? If they only eat canned beans and don't have any medical expenses (lol). Alternatively, this hypothetical person might lose all their savings from one medical emergency at age 55. (The secret is that "middle class" Americans also can't afford poo poo)
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punk rebel ecks posted:I meant for middle class/lower middle class Americans. The sad thing is there are millions of people in this country who believe bullshit like this.
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comingafteryouall posted:and get 17 bucks? Shear Modulus posted:Well let's see I'll fire up the ol Excel and see how much $250 a year invested over a lifetime with your interest rate assumption will get you: I see. But there are people out there who claim that they live off their stock. Some people from "middle class" backgrounds or less. Scent of Worf posted:The sad thing is there are millions of people in this country who believe bullshit like this. For reference I don't believe it, but I want to know why it is impossible and what arguments I can use against people. punk rebel ecks has issued a correction as of 05:51 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:I see. But there are people out there who claim that they live off their stock. Some people from "middle class" backgrounds or less. there are also people that had to delay retirement because their 401ks took a nose dive in 2008
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logikv9 posted:i was under the impression that despite going in looking like a Clinton stooge terry did actual good things in VA He championed restoring voting rights to felons who'd done their time, which went over about as well as you'd expect with the usual suspects.
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punk rebel ecks posted:For reference I don't believe it, but I want to know why it is impossible and what arguments I can use against people. I mean it's possible, you could hit it big on an investment and definitely have some class mobility. you can also lose all of your investment. I would want to know why the person is making the argument in the first place. are they arguing against wealth redistribution? saying that since it is technically possible for class mobility, the american dream is alive and well and everyone needs to shut up and sit down?
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