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They didn’t really show off Monterey at all today, right? I could see there being a quieter November event/announcement for the Mini + Monterey.
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Wonder if the new MMBPs have 3x3 MIMO streams.. The OG M1 MBP only has 2x2 802.11ax streams, even the 2017 rMBPs to the 2019 rMBPs had 3x3 802.11ac.. I've got a UniFi U6-LR with 4X4 802.11ax radios, it'd be nice if the new MMBPs took advantage...
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Oct 18, 2021 21:21
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Monterey will be released next Monday. Think they did a press release after the event.
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I wish I knew more about the hardware. Like, the for the M1 Pro 10-Core w/ 32GB vs M1 Max 10-Core w/ 32GB: Are these the same CPU cores at the same speed? Is the only difference in processing then the 200GB/sec vs 400GB/sec memory bandwidth? How noticeable will that be in daily use? 16-Core GPU, 24-Core GPU, 32-Core GPU - is there a way to know what these are comparable to (in relation to what's available from AMD or NVidia)? I suppose my gaming and video processing will be minimal, so I probably don't need all the cores. I'm guessing I'd probably take advantage of the memory bandwidth of the M1 Max chip more than the GPU cores. The prices are so similar for the setup I want: 32GB RAM w/ 2TB SSD: M1 Pro, 16-Core, 32GB w/ 2TB: $3499 M1 Max, 24-Core, 32GB w/ 2TB: $3699 (~6% increase in price, 100%(?) increase in memory bandwidth) M1 Max, 32-Core, 32GB, w/ 2TB: $3899 (~5.5% increase in price) I'm coming from a Late 2013 MBP (16GB w/ 1TB), so anything will be way better than what I have. I don't even know if it's worth it to go beyond the M1 Pro.
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Ok Comboomer posted:They didn’t really show off Monterey at all today, right? They already quietly said that Monterey releases Oct. 25th... https://www.apple.com/macos/monterey/
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Oct 18, 2021 21:24
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drat, three hours of waffling on 1 or 2 TB bumped the expected shipping date back by a week. (I went with 1, external drives are cheap.)
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Oct 18, 2021 21:30
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Also flush mount micosd is an option again.
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Oct 18, 2021 21:33
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Perplx posted:Also flush mount micosd is an option again. wanna run my $3500 supernotebook like a goddamn raspberry pi
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Oct 18, 2021 21:35
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Does anyone know if trade ins for online purchase have to be mailed, or if I could just take it into an Apple store?
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Oct 18, 2021 21:43
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I went with the $1999 14inch SKU, and part of me is rethinking it and instead going with the $2499 pre-selected one instead? I feel like it's not that much more of a stretch to get the extra space and more performance
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Oct 18, 2021 21:44
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Josh Lyman posted:I believe it’s 15% but you can’t use it on hot new product launches. Just out of curiosity do the apple store people get that discount too or is it corp only Buff Hardback posted:I went with the $1999 14inch SKU, and part of me is rethinking it and instead going with the $2499 pre-selected one instead? I mean, would you use the space and performance? Personally I'm getting the cheapest 16 inch because as a guy who mostly codes I could technically work on a fuckin' chromebook or something I'm sure. I don't need this, just want it, cuz I like shiny tech things. In any case the point is, like, are you in the use case for the upgraded stuff for sure because if you're not probably just get the cheaper one imo
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Oct 18, 2021 21:46
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Ok Comboomer posted:wanna run my $3500 supernotebook like a goddamn raspberry pi Well, that card being an SDXC slot does open up a lot of storage possibilities. The max spec of SDXC cards floats between 160 MB/sec to 312 MB/sec, and you can get a 1 TB microSD card for about $180.. its not exactly high speed storage and nowhere near the speed of the internal SSD (which is something like 7.6 GB/sec (!)) but it's perfect for non-video and small to mid-size graphics storage.. It's deffo slow enough it'd be unsuitable for actually booting off of (and I have this feeling Apple wouldn't support booting from the SD card anyway) but hey I could see storing alternate Photo libraries and other poo poo on it. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Oct 18, 2021 21:48
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You can also whack one of those USB-C SSDs into a thunderbolt slot easy peasy
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Oct 18, 2021 21:49
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Buff Hardback posted:I went with the $1999 14inch SKU, and part of me is rethinking it and instead going with the $2499 pre-selected one instead? IDK about you but this computer could easily last me a decade when all is said and done I’m gonna end up spending $3500 on a 14”
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Oct 18, 2021 21:50
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Taima posted:Just out of curiosity do the apple store people get that discount too or is it corp only Everyone gets it, or at least they did 10+ years ago
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Oct 18, 2021 21:50
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Thanks brother! Oh well. I'll get it when I get it. It hurts my soul, really figured I would have this bad boy in my hands next week, but sometimes first world problems happen unexpectedly and you have to buck up, ya know
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Oct 18, 2021 21:53
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Ok Comboomer posted:IDK about you but this computer could easily last me a decade I guess we're all agreed that this is effectively the second coming of the 2015 rMBPs.. (Minus the fact that the 13-inch 2015 rMBP was still somewhat hobbled what with Apple insisting that it only be a dual core)
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Oct 18, 2021 22:04
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Yeah those are some good points, I'm sure the base SKU will still absolutely kick rear end compared to my 2016 Surface Book 1 with 256GB of storage, and since I don't keep a whole lot of stuff on my devices anyway, I think it should be okay
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Oct 18, 2021 22:05
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Buff Hardback posted:Yeah those are some good points, I'm sure the base SKU will still absolutely kick rear end compared to my 2016 Surface Book 1 with 256GB of storage, and since I don't keep a whole lot of stuff on my devices anyway, I think it should be okay either that, or I’m telling you to spec up 
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Oct 18, 2021 22:09
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Guess my bought-yesterday MBA M1 is staying with me. It’s really a nice machine. Touchpads and keyboards have gotten a lot better since my last laptop.
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Oct 18, 2021 22:14
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Finally retiring my 2014 rMBP for one of these. Just in time too because that model won’t support the upcoming macOS version. Bought a 14 inch with 10 cores, 32gb ram, and 1tb storage. Gonna compile so much dang code on this thing. E: also Space Gray. Big lmao if you don’t get space gray.
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Oct 18, 2021 22:21
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My most important question is yet unanswered; Does the notch block the mouse cursor? No, wait; Does the notch add two more hot corners?! I have to know!
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Oct 18, 2021 22:26
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Ok Comboomer posted:either that, or I’m telling you to spec up you drive a hard bargain i am going to think some more and decide
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Oct 18, 2021 22:30
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I want the new MBP when it comes out.... I have a 2019 MBP that works fine. Should I do a trade in or screw with selling it private party, goon hive mind? Apple trade in is coming back with $560. My model is MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2019) 1.4GHz, 128GB. VVVVVV hey get out of here man Inner Light fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Oct 18, 2021 22:34
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Apple's trade-in program is offering me $900 for my 13" M1 MBP that I just bought last November/December, with 16 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD. Worth it to avoid any headaches, or do I try to sell it on SA-Mart/elsewhere?
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Xenomorph posted:I wish I knew more about the hardware. This isn't a direct answer for your question, but take a look at a bunch of the benchmarks for CPU stuff. For me, the Pro Chipset and the Max Chipset are identical in performance. I can save the upgrade cost and put it into storage or memory. Or just pocket it.  (Pro photography apps use CPU almost exclusively).
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I can’t have a supercar, but if I can swing a $2500 MBP I can probably swing a $3800 MBP with way more power than I need
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Inner Light posted:I want the new MBP when it comes out.... I have a 2019 MBP that works fine. 560 trade in sounds horribly low to me but maybe the non M1 stuff deprecated really fast? Some things have awesome trade in. For example I traded in my ipad pro 12.9 2018 for $510. I got that ipad for $600 from the refurb store with the employee discount that I bummed off a friend so they basically gave full trade in on the value less $100. Amazing. But yeah 560 for a 2019 mbp seems bad Ok Comboomer posted:I can’t have a supercar, but if I can swing a $2500 MBP I can probably swing a $3800 MBP with way more power than I need I don't see the point at all, you could just get something you can use the best and if you really wanna blow it go do some really fire omakase once a week for 5 weeks or something 1k is still a lot even if it's not a financial imposition. That's why I'm waiting for the employee portal just to save $400, do I need to, gently caress no, but that's still like, a charity contribution or if I'm being a real jerk, a michelin joint prix fixe waiting there for the taking The super blinged out MBPs dont even go for that much more when you eventually sell it. Taima fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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SourKraut posted:Apple's trade-in program is offering me $900 for my 13" M1 MBP that I just bought last November/December, with 16 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD. I'll give you $1000 for that. PM if interested.
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Inner Light posted:I want the new MBP when it comes out.... I have a 2019 MBP that works fine. Yeah that seems low. I'm planning on a M1 16" in the new year so my trade in will probably go down but right now it's $1820 Canadian for my 2019 16" (so $1500 or so USD).
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I have a 2014 MBP that still does everything I need it to do with buttery smoothness, and yet I really want to throw away $3500 so that Safari will open .2 seconds faster I am not a smart man
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Ordering today will guarantee you own the latest Apple computer for the longest possible time, so I think we all know why I pushed that button.
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quote:I have a Also, for some reason I find it amusing how the power requirements jump so hard from the 8-core M1Pro to anything else. 67W -> 96W charger.
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I thought this was gonna be a day 1 order for me, but can’t really justify the price premium of a 16gb/1tb Pro ($2199) over a similarly specd M1 Air ($1599). I guess I’ll wait for reviews….
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.Z. posted:Also, for some reason I find it amusing how the power requirements jump so hard from the 8-core M1Pro to anything else. 67W -> 96W charger. I've got a desktop rig with a 750W power supply gobbling energy from the wall and in comparison what my M1 MacBook Air is able to do sipping power from the wall in comparison is exciting stuff. It'll be neat to see what their new chips can do with just a bit more power.
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Mia Wasikowska posted:so i got one of those 120hz 4k tvs that goes over the newish hdmi and nothing supports it (except the nvidia 30somethings i dont have), will these support it? that would be sick Doesn't look like it unfortunately, at least not over its HDMI out: quote:HDMI digital video output
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Your desktop rig isn't running anywhere near 750W.
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Buff Hardback posted:you drive a hard bargain I have been convinced, I just have to wait for the pending installment to fall off my Apple Card before I can pull the trigger on it
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pyrotek posted:Do we know for sure that we'll get full performance on battery? I'm a bit skeptical that the 10-core CPU 32-core GPU version will run the same speed off of battery. They are packing in 96W and 140W chargers for a reason. They promised full performance on battery. The bigger chargers seem to be about charge time, based on the presentation and the spec pages. The truth is that incredibly few applications can max out both CPU and GPU continuously over long periods of time, so the sum of 90W isn't as scary as you might think. The other important factor is power management. Intel has become kinda bad at this. The ~45W TDP i7/i9 chips Apple was using in the 16" Pros have CPU cores which, at max frequency, can use nearly 20W each. That means just a few active threads can put the fans into blastoff mode. (And yes, 8 * 20 is a really big number. If you actually try to use all eight cores, clock speeds fall off a cliff.) M1 cores deliver the same or better performance per core at max frequency, but power per core at max freq is under 6W iirc. This translates to much less power used for low / medium intensity loads, and much less frequency dropoff when you use all cores.
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movax posted:I'm sure we'll find out soon but AFAIK there were no uArch / tweaks to the actual CPU cores, right? Johnny Srouji didn't mention anything which sounded like that.
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