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it saves money and although i prefer a physical dipstick, i highly doubt there's a higher rate of E90s having problems due to oil levels than say, E46s. keep in mind that you actually have to physically check the oil level with a dipstick. the failure point there is people not bothering to check oil level, which is distressingly common. for enthusiasts, worse. for the average customer, probably not.
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The average BMW owner doesn't check anything on their cars tho, taking away dipsticks from techs that actually take care of the cars isn't helping because they aren't gonna necessarily know when a sensor fails either unless it's throwing a code.
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Jun 11, 2020 13:53
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To be honest, with a real dipstick I probably remember to check my oil level about once every few weeks. With the electronic one, it's checked every day. 
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Jun 11, 2020 14:28
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Applebees Appetizer posted:The average BMW owner doesn't check anything on their cars tho, taking away dipsticks from techs that actually take care of the cars isn't helping because they aren't gonna necessarily know when a sensor fails either unless it's throwing a code. if the sensor indicates low oil, the driver is much more likely to take the car in for service versus with a dipstick where they have no idea that it's happening i don't think the techs care that much. sensors are pretty reliable and it will throw a code if the sensor is inop. it's possible for the sensor to return false readings, but not very likely. nobody complains that there isn't a physical dipstick in the fuel tank; everyone seems to pretty well accept the performance of identical electronic sensors in that case.
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Jun 11, 2020 14:39
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It's not 1985 any more. The overwhelming majority of modern engines aren't burning a quart of oil every thousand miles.
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Jun 11, 2020 14:52
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fknlo posted:It's not 1985 any more. The overwhelming majority of modern engines aren't burning a quart of oil every thousand miles. Uhhh  https://bimmerlife.com/2019/06/01/updated-n63-v8-focus-of-new-oil-consumption-lawsuit/ quote:SI B11 03 13 modified the oil-consumption specification for all BMW engines (excluding M units) as falling within factory parameters even with oil consumption as high as one quart per 750 miles driven. With 5000-7500 mile changes the possibility of running your X5 out of oil if it’s not checked is pretty real. Subaru’s are bad too. Manufacturers are reducing ring pressure and oil weight to get better fuel efficiency and the result is higher oil use.
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Jun 11, 2020 15:18
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i own every Bionicle posted:Uhhh overwhelming majority, not all. And it's saying something that BMW's notoriously lovely V8's are still in line with what was expected like 20 years ago tops.
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Jun 11, 2020 15:21
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i own every Bionicle posted:Uhhh this is probably an argument FOR including sensors not against.
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Jun 11, 2020 15:32
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:if the sensor indicates low oil, the driver is much more likely to take the car in for service versus with a dipstick where they have no idea that it's happening As usual, KG here with the right take. I have an electronic sensor and I agree :-)
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Jun 11, 2020 15:34
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dissss posted:The Mk IV looks like a sports car inspired by a 1991 Camry. The Mk V looks like a sports car inspired by a 2017 Camry. The A70 is the best looking one hands down.
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Jun 11, 2020 18:16
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Inner Light posted:As usual, KG here with the right take. I have an electronic sensor and I agree :-) I wonder how many people with per wheel TPMS readouts still regularly check their tires with a guage. I'm guilty of not doing so, I'll pull up the reading in the car while driving every few weeks to see if they're still balanced. I used to do the same thing for the oil when I had a BMW (it used a quart between changes so this was necessary)
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Jun 11, 2020 18:31
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Just smh at people who don't check their tire pressures with a recently calibrated pressure gauge prior to driving and again after tire warming every day at least twice.
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Jun 11, 2020 18:38
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I think a squirrel chewed through a wire in my engine bay because I keep getting a CEL for "oil pressure sender reading inconsistent"? Anyway I clear it but it still occasionally pops up if I floor it when the engine is cold. I just ignore it.
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Jun 11, 2020 18:53
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I would argue the dipstick is behind the wheel
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Jun 11, 2020 19:34
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Mr. Wiggles posted:Just smh at people who don't check their tire pressures with a recently calibrated pressure gauge prior to driving and again after tire warming every day at least twice. I'll have you know I turn my car around in my driveway once an hour during the day so that the sun evenly heats both sets of tires so that pressure is equalized. What, that's not necessary if you aren't going out that day? Ohhhhhh, but you would be wrong, since the pressure is higher on one side it's going to end up with more long term pressure loss on that side. I have to admit though I'm slacking in only checking my tire depth once a week. I'm sure one of these days the imbalance in wear that I didn't catch and correct with rotation is going to cause me some trouble, but I can't spend ALL of my time on the tires.
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Jun 11, 2020 19:51
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Frond posted:The A70 is the best looking one hands down. I have an A70 and do not agree. The A60 is the best looking Supra. Exhibit A:  Exhibit B: 
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Jun 11, 2020 19:56
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I have an A70 and do not agree. The A60 is the best looking Supra. Poor Exhibit B. 
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Jun 11, 2020 20:06
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Residency Evil posted:Poor Exhibit B. I really don't know why AI gets so het up about slammed cars, it's like a 30 minute operation to fix it if it were yours  I'm just jealous Japan has roads that are so glass perfect you can get away with having a car that low.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I really don't know why AI gets so het up about slammed cars Because its just plain dangerous / dumb and they end up taking way longer that 30 mins to fix Also looks like that fuckwit driving the black car is on his phone while on a racetrack. Well aint that just the icing on a stupidity cake
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Jun 11, 2020 23:46
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Nidhg00670000 posted:Porsche, Mercedes and Audi (off the top of my head) did away with the dipstick quite some time ago as well. It's not uncommon. My F-Type doesn't have a dipstick so you can probably add all newer Jaguars to that list.
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Jun 11, 2020 23:50
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Mid engine/rear engine design is a decent excuse for no dipstick.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I really don't know why AI gets so het up about slammed cars, it's like a 30 minute operation to fix it if it were yours Because it looks terrible. And in this case: CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Also looks like that fuckwit driving the black car is on his phone while on a racetrack. Well aint that just the icing on a stupidity cake
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Chiming in to reiterate that very few things give me as much anxiety as changing the oil on my 991.1. The combination of no dipstick & having to run the engine a full 15 minutes after an oil change to find out if you hosed up is needlessly nerve-racking
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Jun 12, 2020 02:17
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Olympic Mathlete posted:
This car just looks broke
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Because its just plain dangerous / dumb and they end up taking way longer that 30 mins to fix I know lol at 30 minutes, swapping out the springs in struts is a royal PITA, even if you had complete struts ready to go it's still gonna take a good amount of time. [e] can also confirm Japanese roads are perfect it's like heaven for auto enthusiasts
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I know lol at 30 minutes, swapping out the springs in struts is a royal PITA, even if you had complete struts ready to go it's still gonna take a good amount of time. It is like 30-45 minutes if they are height adjustable coilovers. Which is what most people with static slammed cars are running.
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Jun 12, 2020 13:56
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Yeah lovely ebay coilovers is what most people are running so to fix it the point still stands odds of a high dollar good quality coil over worth keeping being on a slammed car are slim to none
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I know lol at 30 minutes, swapping out the springs in struts is a royal PITA, even if you had complete struts ready to go it's still gonna take a good amount of time. Coilovers, which most lowered cars have will literally let you lower the car to the point where you can't actually move it for having the chassis on the ground. I installed mine in like 2 hours tops. Adjusting them isn't hard like  what subforum am I even in right now?!
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You didn't say "adjust coilovers" you said "fix it if it were yours" If it were mine I would replace the lovely coilovers
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Applebees Appetizer posted:You didn't say "adjust coilovers" you said "fix it if it were yours" Excuse me for assuming some level of knowledge on cars here in the car subforum.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I have an A70 and do not agree. The A60 is the best looking Supra. 
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Excuse me for assuming some level of knowledge on cars here in the car subforum. Well I know enough about slammed cars that I probably wouldn't want whatever after market garbage was on it. If I got an A60 that was slammed I would return it to stock. Just my personal preference and that's how I would "fix" it if it were my car, and that's not a 30 minute job
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Jun 12, 2020 16:37
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Different people enjoy cars differently.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqwm9na8gRc Have a bunch of overwrought video editing of the 2021 Supra. Love that it's such a huge 'gently caress you' to all the buyers of the first year model lol
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The one slammed car where I've seen pictures of the interior it would not be 30 minute job to fix. The wheel wells were cut off and control arms were replaced with lovely DIY jobs.
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kill me now posted:It is like 30-45 minutes if they are height adjustable coilovers. Which is what most people with static slammed cars are running. Slammed cars are not just a coilover change to fix. Slammed cars almost always have scrapes and underbody damage. Saukkis posted:The one slammed car where I've seen pictures of the interior it would not be 30 minute job to fix. The wheel wells were cut off and control arms were replaced with lovely DIY jobs. Absolutly this. DIY frame notching so the steering doesn't foul, fenders cut ..... I know exactly what it takes to slam a Subaru (anda number of other cars) and oooooh boy it is not a 30 minute reversal. Russian Bear posted:Different people enjoy cars differently. Thats fine, dont make them rolling road hazards.
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Ford is launching the new Bronco on July 9th, O.J. Simpson's birthday.
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Mental Hospitality posted:Ford is launching the new Bronco on July 9th, O.J. Simpson's birthday. That's...remarkable.
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Mental Hospitality posted:Ford is launching the new Bronco on July 9th, O.J. Simpson's birthday. I'm honestly not sure what to make of that.
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borkencode posted:Calling it now, because we live in the worst timeline: new bronco commercials staring OJ. Nothing has yet dissuaded me of this idea.
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