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Uncle Lloyd posted:It’s a short bed crew cab, there’s no earthly way to make it look good. They all look like a wounded caterpillar with its guts falling out and dragging along behind. I like the proportions of a regular-cab, short bed pickup truck but those don't work for consumers because of parking or cost constraints. The truck is the do-everything vehicle for Middle America in the same way that a station wagon is the do-everything vehicle for car enthusiasts.
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The motorized selector knob rising out of the console that JLR uses is too simple and robust and not pointless enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz7jdplVn7w
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Jun 27, 2020 15:38
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Throatwarbler posted:The motorized selector knob rising out of the console that JLR uses is too simple and robust and not pointless enough. Extremely stupid, pointless, and fragile Rube Goldberg devices are the hallmark of true high-end luxury cars, good to see Ford understands what people shopping for a $100k vehicle expect to find.
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Jun 27, 2020 17:54
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Throatwarbler posted:The motorized selector knob rising out of the console that JLR uses is too simple and robust and not pointless enough. oh, thank god, i finally have a place to put my laptop while i watch porn on the freeway
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Jun 27, 2020 18:00
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I imagine it's more for drive through food than a laptop.
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Jun 27, 2020 18:18
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it's an american truck, we have beer guts as tray tables
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Jun 27, 2020 18:21
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Wheeee posted:Extremely stupid, pointless, and fragile Rube Goldberg devices are the hallmark of true high-end luxury cars, good to see Ford understands what people shopping for a $100k vehicle expect to find. Why didn't they just put the gear selector on the column?
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Jun 27, 2020 19:06
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Russian Bear posted:Why didn't they just put the gear selector on the column? Because that's for sissies, real men have gear shift levers on the floor even if they're not actually shifting gears. They probably have six accessory stalks on the column in some luxury trims too. This would have been a case for a push button automatic though.
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Jun 27, 2020 19:11
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Midjack posted:Because that's for sissies, real men have gear shift levers on the floor even if they're not actually shifting gears. They probably have six accessory stalks on the column in some luxury trims too. This would have been a case for a push button automatic though. As much as I hate them, at that point just add another stalk with gear selecting buttons like mercedes does or take a page out of sports cars mode selector and put a dial on the steering wheel!
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Jun 27, 2020 19:13
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Move the gear selector into a touch screen menu 3 levels deep
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Jun 27, 2020 19:44
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I imagine the gear shift lever on the lower trim levels with the front bench seat (the clear correct option) is still on the column. Pretty funny that they didn't just repurpose that for the higher trims with the table poo poo. My 2014 is a column shifter
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Jun 27, 2020 20:12
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Yeah they should have done the push button transmission like Lincolns have or the rotary gear selector on the dash like Rams have.
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Jun 27, 2020 20:25
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Steve French posted:I imagine the gear shift lever on the lower trim levels with the front bench seat (the clear correct option) is still on the column. Pretty funny that they didn't just repurpose that for the higher trims with the table poo poo. My 2014 is a column shifter Nope, center passenger has to scoot over to change gears. Accidentally deploying the gear shift just punches him in the dick. (bench seats are in fact the best)
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Jun 27, 2020 20:28
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Mr. Apollo posted:Yeah they should have done the push button transmission like Lincolns have or the rotary gear selector on the dash like Rams have. If they did any of that reasonable poo poo, no one would be talking about their new truck. Pure cynical marketing.
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Jun 27, 2020 22:52
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Russian Bear posted:Why didn't they just put the gear selector on the column? Because they have to redesign the whole interior to make that work. This thing is a kludge that they only have to fit on a handful of vehicles and is ultimately way cheaper to implement.
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Jun 27, 2020 23:21
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My Silverado has a column shifter and it's fine  Honestly don't understand why it's not more common nowadays [I do understand but it's stupid]
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Deteriorata posted:Because they have to redesign the whole interior to make that work. This thing is a kludge that they only have to fit on a handful of vehicles and is ultimately way cheaper to implement. Do they, though? 
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Jun 27, 2020 23:29
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How many 64 ounce soda's can it take before it gets stuck up or down?
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Jun 27, 2020 23:56
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I love the 8" screen and crank windows.
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Jun 28, 2020 00:39
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It’s pretty simple IMO. Column shifters have traditionally been a truck thing. Your average suburban cowboy wants to appear rugged and masculine, but also knows he’s better than those dirty hillbillies. Therefore, appearances demand he drives a truck so everyone can see him in a truck. At the same time, he knows he deserves the most coddling interior for his flabby rear end, nothing so pedestrian as bench seats and plastic interiors. After all, he traded in a BMW for this rig. So the column shifter, among other interior pieces, is kicked to the curb because those things are for the trucks that Jose the illegal immigrant drives when he comes to mow the lawn. I am an actual dirty hillbilly, so my truck is a single cab long bed with vinyl seats and power nothing.
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Jun 28, 2020 00:48
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Single cab trucks best trucks imo.
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Jun 28, 2020 00:54
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ThinkFear posted:I love the 8" screen and crank windows. I love the clips to hold paper ...........over the 8" screen.
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Jun 28, 2020 00:59
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I love the clips to hold paper ...........over the 8" screen. Pretty sure those are buttons, looks like hazards and two others I can’t identify.
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borkencode posted:Pretty sure those are buttons, looks like hazards and two others I can’t identify. Looks like you're right but they're so bizarrely shaped and just kinda in the middle of nowhere. *edit: i'm also disappointed there's nowhere to clip invoices now 
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Throatwarbler posted:The motorized selector knob rising out of the console that JLR uses is too simple and robust and not pointless enough.  Over-engineering is bad ya goobers, BAD.
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Jun 28, 2020 01:20
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KakerMix posted:
Ford Motor Company GmbH
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Jun 28, 2020 01:26
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ThinkFear posted:I love the 8" screen and crank windows. I love the cynical marketing on display. Wind up windows are these days more complex, more expensive and don't last as long as electric so it costs a manufacturer MORE to offer them but they go onto the low end models where the profit margins are at their lowest. Ford could probably save a couple of bucks per door by just not having them but yet that's what fleet buyers want to confiure as they have this perception windups make the package as cheap as possible for them And yet you get the cheapest version with electric windows it's a coupla hundred dollar extra so Ford gets to make free money and a bit more. (Not any real different for some other options of course. Still makes me laugh as really, there just isnt any good reason why wind ups are still a thing)
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Jun 28, 2020 01:38
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Also federally mandated backup cameras need screens
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Minto Took posted:Single cab trucks best trucks imo. Ford's been making single cab regular bed f-150s for forever, I think they're the last ones to make them. I hope they keep making them in the new generation, they'll probably keep making them as long as fleet operators want them as a dirt cheap configuration. One of these days I want to get a single cab with a 5.0 and supercharge it. Magnuson makes a supercharger for the old (ancient) tundra 5.7, if I can find a single cab that would be great too.
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As Nero Danced posted:Ford's been making single cab regular bed f-150s for forever, I think they're the last ones to make them. I hope they keep making them in the new generation, they'll probably keep making them as long as fleet operators want them as a dirt cheap configuration. Fleet sales still have huge volumes of single cab RAM 1500s, Silverados, and GMC Sierras, you just don't see dealers trying to sell them to consumers.
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Yeah, I see tons of single cab, LWB trucks around, but they're all pretty much base model fleet trucks. Either that or they're made to have a service body dropped on the back.
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For the record, this wasn't in the original game. It's from a Cracked photoshop contest back in like 2013. That character is a cop (which arguably makes it even funnier).
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https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/30/2021-kia-k5-debut-photos-specs/ Man, the Koreans are just knocking it out of the park. If they can keep this under 35 fully loaded with the hot engine, it will be a seriously good deal. KillHour fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Jul 1, 2020 |
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It looks like it should be a liftback, but I don't think it is.
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KillHour posted:https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/30/2021-kia-k5-debut-photos-specs/ Without those stupid lightning bolt lights it looks very Mustang/Charger-esque. The hot version might be a good competitor to the Charger. Edit: The hot version is 290 Hp with a 0-60 of 5.8 seconds, nevermind. Neo_Crimson fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Jul 1, 2020 |
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KillHour posted:https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/30/2021-kia-k5-debut-photos-specs/ Yeah but will it sell? Ford killed the Fusion. Midsized sedans still sell, but the market is shrinking and there’s a lot of good options out there. Is that car good enough to grab any market share? Also hate to be the guy that beats the dead horse, but at least in my area the dealer experience leaves a lot to be desired. The Kia dealer near me still runs like a BHPH lot. They are putting out some really good products though. There’s a new telluride in my neighborhood and I give it a long glance every time I see it. skipdogg fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Jul 1, 2020 |
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skipdogg posted:Yeah but will it sell? Ford killed the Fusion. Midsized sedans still sell, but the market is shrinking and there’s a lot of good options out there. Is that car good enough to grab any market share? Kia sold loads of base trim Optimas even before the Big 3 declared surrender in the car market. For Kia, this has been an opportunity. I also saw a decent number of turbo Optimas around until the 2.0T Stinger showed up. All the people who re-badged their US Optimas as K5s are fist-pumping. It's also interesting to see Kia turn down the 2.5 N/A and just go with the 1.6T as the base engine. The Sonata having the 1.6T as an upgrade engine which makes less power than the 2.5 N/A is confusing.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Without those stupid lightning bolt lights it looks very Mustang/Charger-esque. The hot version might be a good competitor to the Charger. The V6 charger is 292HP with a 0-60 of 6.4 and starts at $30k. It's absolutely a competitor.
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KillHour posted:The V6 charger is 292HP with a 0-60 of 6.4 and starts at $30k. It's absolutely a competitor. That's the bottom trim engine of the Charger vs the top trim engine of the K5.
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I'm OK with this alpha numeric name for some reason. K5 > Optima imo.
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