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akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

hifi posted:

what happened to 4k porn

they have already jumped to 8k

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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

If you're looking to save as much money as possible, ASRock Z370M-ITX/ac. If you're willing to spend a bit for a more reputable brand, the GIGABYTE Z370N WIFI.

i thought i'd heard that Gigabyte was considered hit-or-miss, or is that just greyforum tales?


honestly i'd never had a problem with my past Gigabyte boards but i also know there were people who never had a problem with their ECS K7S5A and yet i got the impression that board had like a 50/50 chance of "works great no problems/constant crashing and weird errors"

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

If you're looking to save as much money as possible, ASRock Z370M-ITX/ac. If you're willing to spend a bit for a more reputable brand, the GIGABYTE Z370N WIFI.

why's the ASRock board bad?

I have one coming for my mini-itx build right now and it seemed like it looked fine to me?

Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014

Sniep posted:

why's the ASRock board bad?

I have one coming for my mini-itx build right now and it seemed like it looked fine to me?

it's probably going to be fine but it seems like their designs and qc are worse. they are also known for weird hacks like allowing overclocking on non-k skus.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Sniep posted:

yeah it started as an i5-8400 build but those are sold out everywhere so i just bumped to i7-8700 as a YOLO moment

i think i could get by with a lot less than this but oh well

yeah for me it was more "i'm probably gonna have this at least five years and an extra hundo ain't gonna kill me"

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

i think a big part of gigabyte and msi being lovely was back when amd boards were the complete wild west power delivery wise and the first gen of the newer bioses were buggy turds

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

Maximum Leader posted:

it's probably going to be fine but it seems like their designs and qc are worse. they are also known for weird hacks like allowing overclocking on non-k skus.

people used to pay a ton of money for that capability but I guess it’s totally normalized now? idk

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



i believe the issue with gigabyte is that rev 1 of a motherboard will be good and reviewed well, etc, but then in later revisions they make changes to cheapen things and you end up with a shittier board. basically, only buy gigabyte at launch of a new chipset

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
i mean the asrock mini-itx one tho, which is what i got - i hope it wont like, suck?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

hifi posted:

what happened to 4k porn

i'd imagine there wasn't much of a market for ultra-high-res shots of mucous membranes and razor burn

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

Sagebrush posted:

i'd imagine there wasn't much of a market for ultra-high-res shots of mucous membranes and razor burn

i bet there is. and i bet 4k and good photography is a selling point for pay porn sites.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Sniep posted:

people used to pay a ton of money for that capability but I guess it’s totally normalized now? idk

yeah now it's "play with dials in msi afterburner" level of safe and easy, as far as basics go

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
i choose.. not to do that

ill just keep this i7-8700 right where it comes specced at and still have way more power than i could ever want today

like holy gently caress these things run at the turbo speed, not the base speed

the 8700 is basically exactly the same as the 8700k unless you went to OC it and i literally cannot be arsed to

4.3ghz to 4.6ghz per core, for 6 cores? that's insane

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Sniep posted:

i choose.. not to do that

ill just keep this i7-8700 right where it comes specced at and still have way more power than i could ever want today

like holy gently caress these things run at the turbo speed, not the base speed

the 8700 is basically exactly the same as the 8700k unless you went to OC it and i literally cannot be arsed to

4.3ghz to 4.6ghz per core, for 6 cores? that's insane
the i7 also has hyperthreading

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Sagebrush posted:

i'd imagine there wasn't much of a market for ultra-high-res shots of mucous membranes and razor burn

its called reality and some people are into it

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

anthonypants posted:

the i7 also has hyperthreading

ya both them do the i7-8700 and i7-8700k


i just cant justify the extra power / cooling costs for the k-model since i have no intent nor desire to OC anything. I want stable as hell in a small package

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

echinopsis posted:

its called reality and some people are into it

i dunno, man. the reality of e.g. going down on someone is a lot more pleasant than seeing it full-screen under harsh studio lighting in amplified stereo sound

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




id easily justify purely on the base clock alone although since you have power and heat considerations and they have replace fake turbo boost with real turbo boost again, you shouldn't break much spears over the topic

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Sniep posted:

i choose.. not to do that

ill just keep this i7-8700 right where it comes specced at and still have way more power than i could ever want today

like holy gently caress these things run at the turbo speed, not the base speed

the 8700 is basically exactly the same as the 8700k unless you went to OC it and i literally cannot be arsed to

4.3ghz to 4.6ghz per core, for 6 cores? that's insane

i don't care but you shouldn't expect the bios defaults to do what you want, and i'd take turbo frequencies with a grain of salt considering how they work with avx loads and different turbo frequencies at different core loads, which they also don't publish now

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

hifi posted:

i don't care but you shouldn't expect the bios defaults to do what you want, and i'd take turbo frequencies with a grain of salt considering how they work with avx loads and different turbo frequencies at different core loads, which they also don't publish now

yeah idk im happy with the base but just reading reports that these apparently just peg up at the full speed in use, which is interesting and new to me

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Sagebrush posted:

i dunno, man. the reality of e.g. going down on someone is a lot more pleasant than seeing it full-screen under harsh studio lighting in amplified stereo sound

i mean, the reality of thats what actual human bodies look like

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Sniep posted:

yeah idk im happy with the base but just reading reports that these apparently just peg up at the full speed in use, which is interesting and new to me

oh yeah lol if it turns out you need to delid it

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

hifi posted:

oh yeah lol if it turns out you need to delid it

what?

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

i cant find anythign about the 8 series but the last few gens you drop like 10 degrees if you whack off the heatspreader, scrape the crap off and reapply thermal compound on it

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

ok, well, you know, set up your bachelor pad with klieg lighting and a PA system and report back on the sex

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013





basically intel changed how they apply thermal paste to the gap between cpu cores and metal shell in 2011, and since then every other cpu overheats due to bad factory spread. hasnt been happening to.tbe last couple of lines though, i think

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




not to the extend of 20-30C temperature drops you saw after replacing it on sandy or ivy bridge

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

sandy bridge was soldered on :dukedoge:

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Sniep posted:

yeah idk im happy with the base but just reading reports that these apparently just peg up at the full speed in use, which is interesting and new to me

you won't get that load in games. rendering, avx, not sure what else even

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




hifi posted:

sandy bridge was soldered on :dukedoge:

ivy bridge and haswell, my b. i hate intel architecture nomenclature

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Idk I bought an cpu and put it in my compute and it works good

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

Sagebrush posted:

i dunno, man. the reality of e.g. going down on someone is a lot more pleasant than seeing it full-screen under harsh studio lighting in amplified stereo sound

the sex haver has logged in

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Sniep posted:

ya both them do the i7-8700 and i7-8700k


i just cant justify the extra power / cooling costs for the k-model since i have no intent nor desire to OC anything. I want stable as hell in a small package

fwiw, the computer you posted doesn't need the power you have, nor would an 8700k. 650 W would be more than sufficient, never mind the 750 W you got. (i think when i was building, i calculated something like 450 W minimum for an 8700K/1070 build). similarly, that heatsink would certainly be sufficient for an 8700K, but whatever. you made a good computer that will last a long time, so don't stress!

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

Endless Mike posted:

fwiw, the computer you posted doesn't need the power you have, nor would an 8700k. 650 W would be more than sufficient, never mind the 750 W you got.

it was the same price for the 650 as the 750 and both were 140mm deep so I guess I just whatever’d the 750

most of the parts arent showing up till friday tho so that means saturday to build it

i'm impatient

Sniep fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Nov 1, 2017

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




final computer update: based on part availablity and some recs from techs at shop, ended up with

+ 1 gab. Asus, ROG STRIX Z370-I GAMING
+ 1 gab. Silverstone, Milo ML03, Black
+ 1 gab. Intel, Core i3-8100 (4C/4T, 3.60 GHz, 6MB Cache, LGA1151, 65W)
+ 1 gab. Samsung, 960 EVO, 250GB, NVMe M.2
+ 1 gab. Deepcool, Gabriel, Low Profile CPU Cooler
+ 1 gab. Western Digital, 2TB, 5400-7200rpm, 64MB, SATA III, Red
+ 1 gab. Corsair, 650W, TX650M, 80+ Gold, Modular
+ 1 gab. Crucial, Ballistix Sport LT Grey, 8GB, DDR4, 2666MHz, CL16, Kit of 2
+ 1 gab. MSI, GeForce GT 1030, 2GB, GDDR5, LP OC, Silent

and win10 home for total of $1260 because latvia lol

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Endless Mike posted:

fwiw, the computer you posted doesn't need the power you have, nor would an 8700k. 650 W would be more than sufficient, never mind the 750 W you got. (i think when i was building, i calculated something like 450 W minimum for an 8700K/1070 build). similarly, that heatsink would certainly be sufficient for an 8700K, but whatever. you made a good computer that will last a long time, so don't stress!

this fact still trips me up, like i still remember building a p4/agp computer (lol) in late 2004 and watching as component after component went completely out of date with no upgrade path within a year (i was dumb) and the drat thing was struggling to run oblivion

now i have a 4.5 year old desktop and with one video card upgrade i'm still maxing out games

nice

Laslow
Jul 18, 2007
Yeah. My first few CPU upgrades were partly decided by graphics card slots changing so fuckin fast. You basically had to buy a whole new system.

I got 2 generations out of AGP at least, from k7 palomino to k8 sledgehammer. But I couldn't use my old RAM since it demanded ECC registered so I still got hosed in the rear end.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
tfw you get hosed in the rear end

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

echinopsis posted:

tfw you get hosed in the rear end

not a computer problem m8

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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Captain Foo posted:

not a computer problem m8

it became a few pages back

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