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But big brother America bombs other countries, why would anyone mind if Israel just starts doing it?
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Feb 10, 2018 08:40
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starkebn posted:But big brother America bombs other countries, why would anyone mind if Israel just starts doing it? They shot down an Iranian drone that allegedly violated Israeli airspace, and then targeted Iranian positions in Syria afterwards in response. That's when the jet was shot down. Israel says that Syrian air defenses were responsible for the missile, but they're still only really hitting Hezbollah and Iran atm from the sound of things.
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Feb 10, 2018 08:44
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Israeli journalists are reporting that the IAF is now attacking multiple anti-air sites in Syrian territory.
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Feb 10, 2018 09:01
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Has anyone seen anything about a strike inside Israel? I have not. There's reports floating around that the sirens were due to the potential fall of debris from anti-aircraft missiles. I'm sure the anti air fire is continuing, but I think Syria might just wait this thing out and then neener neener about shooting down the jet when things cool off a bit.
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Feb 10, 2018 09:15
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https://twitter.com/DannyNis/status/962237632616042496?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E1 That's not out of the question, because https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/962234356617175041?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E1
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Feb 10, 2018 09:19
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Did the escalation just ramp up recently? Did it start after the indictment recommendation?
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Feb 10, 2018 09:20
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RandomPauI posted:Did the escalation just ramp up recently? Did it start after the indictment recommendation? 3 or 4 hours ago the Iranian drone was shot down and that was the spark.
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Feb 10, 2018 09:30
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So far trivia's sake, the last time an Israeli aircraft was downed was 12 years ago during the 2nd Lebanon War, CH-53 Sea Stallion carrying 5 crew members who all died in the crash. I don't think a jet plane was actually downed since 1973 where 5 Israeli jets were downed. In 1988 the plane navigated by Ron Arad crashed over Lebanon but the official story was that it was due to a mechanical failure in the plane itself.
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Feb 10, 2018 09:56
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LOL https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/962345584001716226 Translation: "Colonel (Res.) Kobi Regev in the News10 studio: "In none of the attacks in Syria in the last 24 hours did IDF aircraft leave Israeli airspace" Yeah, and in none of the rocket attacks from Gaza do militants leave Gazan ground space. 
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Feb 10, 2018 16:25
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RandomPauI posted:Did the escalation just ramp up recently? Did it start after the indictment recommendation? The IDF has been quietly bombing Syria on and off for a while now, but the shootdown is new and happened after the indictment. Not sure if this strike was much bigger than previous ones. Something like this was bound to happen eventually - the IDF is too used to just having total air superiority and bombing everything with impunity. There did seem to be more sirens than really necessary, though.
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Feb 10, 2018 17:41
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I'm the "iranian drone" that started all this; are there any pictures of it? Because  if they traded an F16 for a DJI Phantom.
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Feb 10, 2018 17:41
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Harik posted:I'm the "iranian drone" that started all this; are there any pictures of it? Because The Israeli press says it is this:  Allegedly based on the American drone that crash landed in Iran back in 2011.
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Feb 10, 2018 17:45
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emanresu tnuocca posted:The Israeli press says it is this: That's a real one then. Still not worth losing an F-16 over, but enough to be a provocation. All the photos are of the F-16 crash site, and I haven't had time this morning to go digging. Are there exact locations of the incidents yet? Haaretz is saying "Israeli Territory" but that could mean internationally-recognized Israel or the occupied zones or the disputed Golan Heights.
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Feb 10, 2018 17:57
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emanresu tnuocca posted:The Israeli press says it is this: Drone Wars
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Feb 10, 2018 17:57
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The Israeli jet fell in Israel near Harduf, I don't know where the drone was downed but as it was allegedly recovered I think it's safe to say it was also above Israeli territory, IDF claims it spent a minute and a half within Israeli airspace before being taken down by an Apache.
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Feb 10, 2018 18:01
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Harik posted:That's a real one then. Still not worth losing an F-16 over, but enough to be a provocation. All the photos are of the F-16 crash site, and I haven't had time this morning to go digging. Seems kind of silly to portray it as trading an F-16 for a drone when there have been over 100 successful missions flown since 2011. Air defense always has a boxers chance. It's just the nature of the beast. The US lost one of its own high end bombers to a ghetto piece of poo poo in the Balkans.
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Feb 10, 2018 18:08
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Oh and before I'm accused of alternative facts it turns out that the last time an Israeli jet was downed was 1982, not 1973.
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Feb 10, 2018 18:15
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Volkerball posted:Seems kind of silly to portray it as trading an F-16 for a drone when there have been over 100 successful missions flown since 2011. Air defense always has a boxers chance. It's just the nature of the beast. The US lost one of its own high end bombers to a ghetto piece of poo poo in the Balkans. True, but for what it's worth Israel's showing Syrian air defenses (and/or those of the Russians in the country) a hell of a lot more respect than we showed Serbian air defenses. They're mostly launching long distance strikes from outside Syrian airspace, whereas we assumed our stealth planes were invincible and didn't even bother switching up their routes.
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Feb 10, 2018 18:19
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/963150744764469248quote:MOSCOW (Reuters) - Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas told Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday he could no longer accept the role of the United States as a mediator in talks with Israel because of Washington’s behavior, the Interfax news agency reported.
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Feb 12, 2018 23:17
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Kushners got this.
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Feb 13, 2018 00:27
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Volkerball posted:Kushners got this. https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/963055251933843456 He sure is working hard.
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Feb 13, 2018 02:31
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/963055251933843456 White House 3 weeks from now: "Settlements were a matter of great conflict in the negotiation of a two state solution so President Trump and Jared Kushner very bravely took that matter out of the equation. If Palestine won't negotiate for peace now I don't know what it will take. Do we need to poison their children and offer up an antidote with a deadline? Jared's working on that one."
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Feb 13, 2018 02:34
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/963055251933843456 Spoiler alert: Netanyahu was lying so hard, even the US had to point that out: https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/963083673330384896 Top US official to News10: We did not receive any annexation proposal from the US government and naturally did not agree to such.
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Feb 13, 2018 13:29
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Thread. https://twitter.com/LahavHarkov/status/963447339351531521?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E1
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Feb 13, 2018 18:02
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Israeli media are now saying that the indictments in both cases (1000 and 2000) are about to go out, and Netanyahu is going to address the country in about 10 minutes. Chance of resignation: 0.000%
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Feb 13, 2018 19:42
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Yeah he's already said he's not going anywhere. What a piece of poo poo.
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Feb 13, 2018 21:29
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the twin indictments have hit... WATCH NETANYAHU START A loving WAR I doubt this will actually happen but who knows I guess
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Sorry to bum ya'll but these are only 'recommendations for indictments', only the Attorney General, who was a personal appointment by Netanyahu, can file an indictment here.
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How wild would it be if they actually did though
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Feb 14, 2018 14:01
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Sorry to bum ya'll but these are only 'recommendations for indictments', only the Attorney General, who was a personal appointment by Netanyahu, can file an indictment here. Nice separation of powers, very nice.
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Feb 14, 2018 14:06
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Cat Mattress posted:Nice separation of powers, very nice. Nonsense, it's a parliamentary system.
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Reading some Israeli FB comments, I'm actually pretty surprised by the millennial support of Netanyahu. From other things I read on rent/economy protests, I'd figured opinion would be more sour. Oh well. V thanks for the perspective. guidoanselmi fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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Israel is divided geographically and demographically, not so much generationally. In Israel political association is a lot like sports fandom, people are likely to stick to the team their father rooted for. The rent/cottage-cheese protests have spread around a bit but they were still mostly a "Tel-Aviv Thing".
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Feb 14, 2018 19:58
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emanresu tnuocca posted:The rent/cottage-cheese protests have spread around a bit but they were still mostly a "Tel-Aviv Thing". Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't everything typically "Tel-Aviv vs the rest of the country"?
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Feb 14, 2018 19:59
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Nebalebadingdong posted:Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't everything typically "Tel-Aviv vs the rest of the country"? It's often painted that way I guess, I think it's similar to the states in the sense that Tel-Aviv is populated by the wealthy left-leaning types and a lot of the right wing rhetoric revolves around "the decadent elites from Tel-Aviv". As always there's right wingers and left wingers everywhere, but Tel-Aviv is very much an enclave of Labor and Meretz, in my neighborhood Meretz got an astounding 60% for instance (compared to 4% nationally), so yeah. emanresu tnuocca fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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emanresu tnuocca posted:a lot of the right wing rhetoric revolves around "the decadent elites from Tel-Aviv".
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R. Mute posted:What do you guys have in lieu of anti-semitic undertones when the right talks about decadent elites? Antisemitic undertones.
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