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necrotic posted:The linked url is "I've_Just_Joined_Goonwaffe,_Now_What?" 
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iospace posted:shut up idiot shut up idiot
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Jan 29, 2019 20:13
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Hasselblad posted:The The instructions "targeting people who have not played or are not current members," are immediately below what you copied and pasted. In bold. With working links: quote:Ok, I'm not a J4G, I want into Goonwaffe. Now what?
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Jan 29, 2019 20:24
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:shut up idiot <3
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Jan 29, 2019 20:25
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:shut up idiot Thanks to this you was the first person I have recognized by style of posting here. Please, never change.
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Jan 29, 2019 21:06
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Viva Miriya posted:
What is an E/N post doing here? You should be posting this there; however, luckily for you I am queued in to the E/N goon hivemind and I can share with you the response you will get if you put this post where it belongs. 1. Seek help; 2. Sever. PS. The game doesn’t ‘attract sociopaths.’ I wrote and presented an academic paper on this, and may even have published it (I don’t recall). Essentially EVE online is an example of how particular sets of material conditions—in this case in the form of game mechanics—lead to very specific sets of institutional and individual behaviors. In other words, it is not that the game mechanics allow for certain types of social behaviors, the mechanics (and by extension, the broad material conditions of socio-economic production on a grand scale) create those behaviors. ZombieLenin fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Jan 29, 2019 |
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Jan 29, 2019 21:50
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Maneck posted:The instructions "targeting people who have not played or are not current members," are immediately below what you copied and pasted. In bold. With working links: And everything leading up to that (Except the "RETURNING TO EVE?" top part.) is targeting people who haven't a clue about the game itself and/or are not members. I get the impression you just like to reach for an argument without thinking it through. And as someone who has never played the game prior to this past week, I haven't a clue what a J4G is.
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Jan 29, 2019 21:58
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Hasselblad posted:And everything leading up to that (Except the "RETURNING TO EVE?" top part.) is targeting people who haven't a clue about the game itself and/or are not members. I get the impression you just like to reach for an argument without thinking it through. And as someone who has never played the game prior to this past week, I haven't a clue what a J4G is. Let me enlighten you by pointing to this thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3632872 Beware, some of my posts in there (if not all) will make your eyes bleed.
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Jan 29, 2019 22:03
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Dalael posted:Let me enlighten you by pointing to this thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3632872 they did, my god
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Jan 29, 2019 22:32
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ZombieLenin posted:PS. The game doesn’t ‘attract sociopaths.’ I wrote and presented an academic paper on this, and may even have published it (I don’t recall). The game may not attract sociopaths, but there's definitely a not small number of people that have very obvious sociopathic tendencies in EVE.
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Jan 29, 2019 23:32
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Xolve posted:The game may not attract sociopaths, but there's definitely a not small number of people that have very obvious sociopathic tendencies in EVE. Sociopaths have better things to do than play EVE.
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Jan 29, 2019 23:37
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Rutibex posted:Sociopaths have better things to do than play EVE. There are better things to do than play EVE?
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Jan 29, 2019 23:41
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Rutibex posted:Sociopaths have better things to do than play EVE. Someone let Lex Arson know.
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Jan 30, 2019 00:51
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There are many types of EVE players, the only commonality is we're all idiots.
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Jan 30, 2019 00:59
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as above, so below
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Jan 30, 2019 01:46
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So in the two and a half months I have been back I have been mostly trading. I hit 30bill today, which has me curious. If I buy the injectors to make a Rorqual pilot (around 30), how long will it take to make that isk back? I am trying to decide what the most efficient isk generation method would be for me because I want to be rich-ish. 
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Jan 30, 2019 02:13
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ZombieLenin posted:So in the two and a half months I have been back I have been mostly trading. I hit 30bill today, which has me curious. That depends on how long you plan on poop socking that Rorqual every day. But with 30b I would buy a super carrier instead.
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Jan 30, 2019 02:21
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how much does one rorq make per hour assuming max skills and sucking the right rocks?
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Jan 30, 2019 02:26
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Hexel posted:how much does one rorq make per hour assuming max skills and sucking the right rocks? Depends on if you're refining the ores into minerals yourself, or selling them directly on the market. Depends on how good your refining skills are, and if you're using an ideal refining location. Regular rocks or moon goo?
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Jan 30, 2019 02:28
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Hexel posted:how much does one rorq make per hour assuming max skills and sucking the right rocks? 250 mining ice, 500-1b mining high end moon ore, 150 mining belts/anoms
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Jan 30, 2019 02:29
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bear in mind that ice takes 4 hours to respawn and that there's a tiny amount of good poo poo in it compared to the regular rear end racial topes also high-end moons take 2 months each to pop in our space (though we have them staggered so a few come out each day, plus locust fleets)
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Jan 30, 2019 02:40
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I don't know who there new posters are but rutibex and dalael are trash. Also I reinstalled jabber and miniluv popped some 100b thing while I was watching chat.
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Jan 30, 2019 04:51
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DisgracelandUSA posted:I don't know who there new posters are but rutibex and dalael are trash. Cool story bro
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Jan 30, 2019 14:34
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I mean, that was a stellar post. Posting to say you reinstalled Jabber? Holy poo poo, call the news network, announce it to the world. I will endeavour to make these type of great posts from now on.
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Jan 30, 2019 14:36
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Dalael posted:I mean, that was a stellar post. Posting to say you reinstalled Jabber? Holy poo poo, call the news network, announce it to the world. I will endeavour to make these type of great posts from now on. I'd rather have the happy news that he's back on jabber than having to go through your useless drivel. EVE hero on jabber >>> EVE nobody on SA.
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Jan 30, 2019 14:41
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Havent downloaded it yet but is jabber like discord?
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Jan 30, 2019 15:19
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Hasselblad posted:Havent downloaded it yet but is jabber like discord? It's like discord like how msn messenger is like discord
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Jan 30, 2019 15:30
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Hasselblad posted:Havent downloaded it yet but is jabber like discord? It has similarities but I believe that Jabber's strength lies in the amount of people that can be connected to it at once. Taken from Reddit: quote:Jabber is a text based chat client -- it's well supported across basically every platform. It's free and easy to run and can, notably, be integrated in to an alliances central authentication system so you have one account across every service. This helps for convenience but also identifying spies and auditing after leaks etc. quote:Age is also (as someone else pointed out) an issue. Dalael fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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Jan 30, 2019 15:31
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because eve is a thing where espionage is actually a thing, having control over your own chat service is helpful for like 99% of SERIOUS ONLINE GAMING GUILDCLANCOMMUNITIES, something like discord works, but here it is substandard
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Jan 30, 2019 15:37
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Discord is actually built on XMPP like jabber is but it's implemented slightly differently
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Jan 30, 2019 15:51
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:because eve is a thing where espionage is actually a thing, having control over your own chat service is helpful I feel like if Spies are a thing that the leadership really worries about, they wouldn't have let ASCEE recruit straight from Jita. Also, I am willing to bet that a large enough amount of members sucking rocks in Delve probably have their main in other alliances but i have no evidence.
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Jan 30, 2019 16:08
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Dalael posted:I feel like if Spies are a thing that the leadership really worries about, they wouldn't have let ASCEE recruit straight from Jita. Also, I am willing to bet that a large enough amount of members sucking rocks in Delve probably have their main in other alliances but i have no evidence. Who cares about low level awox cyno alts when you're any real size of alliance, no one really beyond being conscious that you're always scouted unless local is empty. You worry about spies in leadership positions
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Jan 30, 2019 16:13
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working mom posted:Who cares about low level awox cyno alts when you're any real size of alliance, no one really beyond being conscious that you're always scouted unless local is empty. You worry about spies in leadership positions Oh I'm pretty sure you are right. I honestly wouldn't know. I'm just not sure what spies and discord have to do with each other in the context of Querns' post. Unless he means that a spy could be granted server admin and close everything?
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Jan 30, 2019 16:27
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Xolve posted:The game may not attract sociopaths, but there's definitely a not small number of people that have very obvious sociopathic tendencies in EVE. Again, its not the people that are sociopaths its that they play a game that creates behavior that would be, in real life, considered sociopathic. I can promise you I am not a sociopath, but for 7 years I was a pirate in eve and shot everyone I could in the face, including noobs who did not know any better. That’s because the game mechanics not just incentivizes this behavior, but creates an atmosphere where that is the expected behavior. In real life I would never randomly punch kids (or anyone) in the face at all, let alone do it then laugh about it. In eve if I popped a 14 year old kid, and he freaked out about it I would laugh then probably post his tears on the internet. Rutibex posted:That depends on how long you plan on poop socking that Rorqual every day. But with 30b I would buy a super carrier instead. Ugh. I have almost perfect skills for one on my main, but I loving hate the regular capitals I already own. In fact, I occasionally think about extracting those 30 or so million skill points; however, the only thing that stops me is my eve sp OCD and the realization of how many of those skill points I would lose. ZombieLenin fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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Jan 30, 2019 16:44
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:Discord is actually built on XMPP like jabber is but it's implemented slightly differently The protocol isn't the important part, it's owning the chat service. Discord doesn't supply identifying information about the people connecting to your instance other than account name. That makes it horribly insecure for the purposes of super important and not at all blowhardy internet video game espionage. Plus, a sufficiently maladjusted creep can intentionally post things that violate the discord TOS, then report the server to get it shut down.
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Jan 30, 2019 16:51
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Dalael posted:Oh I'm pretty sure you are right. I honestly wouldn't know. I'm just not sure what spies and discord have to do with each other in the context of Querns' post. Unless he means that a spy could be granted server admin and close everything? discord shows everyone in the same user list and displays all the roles that a user has, so if you have a person who is a spy and needs the spy role to gain access to the spy channel, everyone who can figure out what the spy role name is will figure out that they're a spy which is free intel for the enemy on top of that, managing multiple discord accounts is a pain in the dick but it's incredibly easy to figure out who someone is just by idling in the r/eve discord server, the imperium server, bombers bar server, and spectre fleet server. meanwhile on jabber, you have no access to any of that information just by scrolling down the sidebar user list thing Gwyneth Palpate posted:The protocol isn't the important part, it's owning the chat service. Discord doesn't supply identifying information about the people connecting to your instance other than account name. That makes it horribly insecure for the purposes of super important and not at all blowhardy internet video game espionage. Plus, a sufficiently maladjusted creep can intentionally post things that violate the discord TOS, then report the server to get it shut down.
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Dalael posted:Oh I'm pretty sure you are right. I honestly wouldn't know. I'm just not sure what spies and discord have to do with each other in the context of Querns' post. Unless he means that a spy could be granted server admin and close everything? Logs, access controls, owning the actual server etc etc though you can set a bot up as server admin that can stop ~undesirables~ from getting access to secure channels
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:discord shows everyone in the same user list and displays all the roles that a user has, so if you have a person who is a spy and needs the spy role to gain access to the spy channel, everyone who can figure out what the spy role name is will figure out that they're a spy which is free intel for the enemy working mom posted:Logs, access controls, owning the actual server etc etc though you can set a bot up as server admin that can stop ~undesirables~ from getting access to secure channels Oh. Okay, now it makes more sense. Thanks for the explanation, that's the sort of stuff i never really thought about before
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i cant believe people still care enough about eve to do super important and not at all blowhardy internet video game espionage
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