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that urge to completely rewrite a story for the adaptation. i get changing small or even medium things around but turning everything on its head is a weird impulse i dont understand. its not a very good movie (some of the acting is fine, but its mostly bad). anyway the story is the same up until the third act but then (note im not a good at summarizing) cabin at the end of the world (book): wen is shot in the face during the struggle for the gun and dies. after they escape, eric grabs the gun and says he will kill himself to save the world. andrew moves erics arm s the gun is pointing at andrew, tells him to shoot if he really believes that. eric decides that even if the end of the world is coming, he would rather spend eternity with andrew. knock at the cabin (movie): wen is never in any real danger. later, andrew who has the gun, eric is telling him to shoot him (eric) to save the world, which he does. then andrwe drives to a diner with wen and they observe how the world has been indeed saved i totally get wanting to avoid death scenes and such, but from there to writing the thematically opposite ending is annoying as heck imo
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Oh, that's just loving cowardly. I didn't expect that from the book and it surprised the poo poo out of me. Don't adapt a property and then puss out on something that's gonna make people feel squeamish; it's in there because that's the point, and it doesn't need to be changed
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Feb 25, 2023 19:12
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You know what you're getting into when you choose a thing to adapt. Changing it for any reason is a risky choice. If you do it for an interesting artistic purpose it has a coinflip of working out. If you just puss out, it's always bad. Like, don't make a Where The Red Fern Grows movie if you aren't willing to kill some dogs.
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Feb 25, 2023 19:35
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Exactly! And that's a horrifying fuckin thing, but it's not like we need to see a child's body; let that be the scariest part of the movie, your mind filling in just what that looks like
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Feb 25, 2023 19:57
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rydiafan posted:Like, don't make a Where The Red Brick Grows movie if you aren't willing to kill some dogs.
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Feb 25, 2023 20:01
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Real weird choice considering that Shyamalan made a movie where he chose to (Old spoilers) have two toddlers gently caress, get pregnent and then make the audience watch an infant die on screen so its not like he's afraid to show really gross and shocking poo poo for funsies. But if its vital to the themes of the story, well gently caress that I guess. I've read a couple of that author's books and his whole thing is ambiguous storytelling where you're never sure if the situation is supernatural or a hoax or crazy people deluding themselves or any number of things. I was worried that the adaptation would spell it out and take the situation at face value, which would kind of devalue the story about doing awful things based on faith. One thing that is the opposite of IIMM for me was in the book, the author describes (book spoilers) the Cascadia Subduction Zone letting loose and tsunami-ing the Oregon coast, specifically Canon Beach and Haystack Rock. As a civil engineer in Oregon who's been to Canon Beach a lot and designs around CSZ ground movements I was very happy that this was used as one of the natural disasters of the end times.
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Feb 25, 2023 20:11
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Thelma and Louise for the first time in a long time. Great movie but: They decide to head to Mexico, right? Did they remember to pack their passports for a casual 3 day getaway, or do you not need one if entering across the border by land? Pretty sure you do but maybe not back then I dunno. Google says yes you need one but may have been different in the 90's. How were they going to cross the border? And with a firearm? Also, Running into the same scumbag truck driver when they're shown to be taking off roads was a little too on the nose
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Feb 25, 2023 20:15
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BiggerBoat posted:Thelma and Louise for the first time in a long time. Great movie but: Yeah, pre 9/11 you didn't need a passport to go to Mexico or Canada as a US citizen, just a drivers license/id card. Also, none of the border patrol cared what you had on you if you were white, ime.
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Feb 25, 2023 20:26
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Yeah, pre 9/11 you didn't need a passport to go to Mexico or Canada as a US citizen, just a drivers license/id card. Also, none of the border patrol cared what you had on you if you were white, ime. Back in the early 90s when I was at ASU my friends and I decided to hop across the fence to Nogales. We're sitting in a bar there drinking tequila shots that are about the size of your fist, and we realize we haven't seen Jay or Walker for a while. We're looking around and we see that they're out in the parking lot, getting into a lovely sky-blue VW Beetle with a couple of thoroughly disreputable-looking locals. We figure that we're never going to see them again, or know what happened to them until the Arizona Republic has some story about a couple of ASU students found knifed in a ditch outside Nogales, and keep on keeping on drinking our tequila. About an hour later, the Beetle pulls back into the parking lot and it's like a scene from a Cheech and Chong movie. The door opens and this huge cloud of smoke just wafts out. Jay and Walker emerge and come into the bar and let us know that they have just purchased a quarter. Not a quarter ounce, a quarter *pound*, four full ounces of weed in a large baggie. We tell them "Yeah, great going geniuses, you're the two who have to get this across the border." They split it into two halves and stuff it down their pants. This was border security in those days: "You kids Americans?" "Yep." "Have a nice day."
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Feb 26, 2023 00:03
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credburn posted:I found those movies enjoyable but they're awful hand-wavey when it comes to consistency. I guess it's a little weird to pick apart something like this, but it bothers me when you show Sonic travel far away, play a bunch of games, and come back within two seconds, and then at any fuckin point ever try to suggest Sonic isn't fast enough. I mean, I know stuff like that is just a gag, but... it's a gag that's so central to the entire Sonic entity. It muddies things up. My IIMM is that sonic the goddamned hedgehog ended up being one of the more coherently and tightly plotted action buddy comedy movies I'd seen in ages and I can't really use it as examples of actions done good because I don't want to be a "raves about the sonic the hedgehog movie" guy. Even the car chase scene worked! I can't remember the last time I saw a car chase scene that worked (outside the fast and the furious franchise obviously). Splicer has a new favorite as of 01:11 on Feb 26, 2023 |
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Feb 26, 2023 01:05
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There are two Sonic movies??
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Feb 26, 2023 01:09
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Biplane posted:There are two Sonic movies?? yep they also announced an additional entry in the series, sonic 3, and knuckles
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Feb 26, 2023 01:14
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Biplane posted:There are two Sonic movies?? The second one has Idris Elba voicing Knuckles.
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Feb 26, 2023 01:25
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I think I must have stroked out or something and lost a year.
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Feb 26, 2023 01:40
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edit: nevermind that doesn't make sense
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Feb 26, 2023 02:19
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In the original Terminator the titular cyborg starts out seeming like a normal (if pretty huge) healthy human being. As the movie goes on he starts looking sickly because the human tissue on his endoskeleton begins rotting. By the motel scene he's apparently smelling loving awful. Imagine if they'd kept this up in T2. Or the TV show! Sexy robot Summer Glau smells like rotting meat. Nasty.
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Feb 26, 2023 02:35
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Splicer posted:It's only the second one where sonic was ever "too slow" for anything. In general I felt the second one just wasn't as good as the first. We've just spent so long having the actual action in action movies be completely incoherent and mindless that something actually making sense is shocking. Biplane posted:I think I must have stroked out or something and lost a year. Not a uncommon feeling.
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Feb 26, 2023 06:25
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Tunicate posted:yep I heard you will be able to edit that one into the previous entries!
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Feb 26, 2023 08:38
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Gargamel Gibson posted:In the original Terminator the titular cyborg starts out seeming like a normal (if pretty huge) healthy human being. As the movie goes on he starts looking sickly because the human tissue on his endoskeleton begins rotting. By the motel scene he's apparently smelling loving awful. I'm pretty sure it's because of the damage he took. If his tissue had remained intact, it might have worked in a similar, self-sustaining way as ours. It's "living tissue" until you destroy it, then it rots.
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Feb 26, 2023 08:59
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Don't think too hard about where they got all that living skin. The best Terminator fanfic does in the denouement, though. Still fanfic of course, but a crazy romp with the premise that's worth the read if you give it a chance stringless has a new favorite as of 11:57 on Feb 26, 2023 |
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Carthag Tuek posted:that urge to completely rewrite a story for the adaptation. i get changing small or even medium things around but turning everything on its head is a weird impulse i dont understand. That movie was complete garbage. Even the stupid title.
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Feb 26, 2023 14:27
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I hate it when it's obvious they're cutting a scene together from different takes. I'm rewatching Succession now and there's a moment in season 2 where Roman and Gerri are in his room and he can't manage to button his shirt (or pretends). It's a pretty important moment in their whole relationship and it's obvious they used (at least) two different takes. Now normally even when I notice something like the posture or the position of an arm or whatever is different after a cut I don't mind that much, but in this case the difference is pretty pretty big and impacts their relationship and Gerri's character development. You see, after she helps him with his buttons Roman starts being Roman. In one take, when we first see her reaction, she closes up. Pulls her sweater close and crosses her arms. Then the next shot she suddenly has her hand on her hips, back straight, tits forward in a daring, provocative way. It's obvious they tried two entirely different reactions but then mixed them together, which for a show like Succession is downright sloppy editing.
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Could they be going with an American Psycho "he doesn't know how she is reacting" kind of thing? I mean I doubt it but I don't watch the show; what you said just reminded me of Willem Dafoe in that movie.
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Feb 26, 2023 16:46
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That would be very out of style for Succession.
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Feb 26, 2023 17:03
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Yeah that's not it. Given how their relationship evolves I get the strong sense they weren't sure how big a step to take in that regard and filmed it both ways which got jumbled during editing. E: Spoilers obviously, but the scene I'm talking about starts at 7:40 in this video: https://youtu.be/Fia2TJo6qY4 Looking at it again it really is just sloppy. Normally I don't mind little things because it's just a change of posture or the head tilted a different way but the pose is so completely different it really stood out to me and it changes the dynamic between the two knowing what's coming (lol) Taeke has a new favorite as of 18:53 on Feb 26, 2023 |
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marshmallow creep posted:Could they be going with an American Psycho "he doesn't know how she is reacting" kind of thing? I mean I doubt it but I don't watch the show; what you said just reminded me of Willem Dafoe in that movie. are you perhaps thinking of his performance in Spider-Man???
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My girlfriend has been watching through Bones and I know these kind of crime investigation shows pull magic bullshit to help the plot along but good god I think Bones takes the cake. Some of the computer simulations and their whole holographic projector room might as well have Chief Engineer LaForge in the back manipulating the controls while mumbling about inverting the tachyon/graviton deflector array.
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Feb 27, 2023 06:09
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IIRC Bones had a crossover with Sleepy Hollow, a show with time travelling ghosts.
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rydiafan posted:IIRC Bones had a crossover with Sleepy Hollow, a show with time travelling ghosts. Also Family Guy because Fox.
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Feb 27, 2023 08:12
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Don't they eventually just kind of stop using the hologram room after a certain point?
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Feb 27, 2023 14:08
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Was it Bones, or one of the CSI or NCIS shows where they did an MRI or CT scan or some bones, and in doing so, unleashed a computer virus into their system because the "Bad guy" literally encoded a virus on the dead person's bones.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Was it Bones, or one of the CSI or NCIS shows where they did an MRI or CT scan or some bones, and in doing so, unleashed a computer virus into their system because the "Bad guy" literally encoded a virus on the dead person's bones. Bones did that, yes.
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muscles like this! posted:Don't they eventually just kind of stop using the hologram room after a certain point? Its appearance has definitely been tapering off, yeah.
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Feb 27, 2023 15:34
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Jedit posted:Bones did that, yes. Was it FOXDIE?
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Feb 27, 2023 19:52
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You don't watch Bones for scientific coherence, you do it to watch John Francis Daley make his put-upon face any time another cast member negs psychiatry (Sometimes you watch it because Imhotep is there as an ex-sniper, or Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top is there as a character's dad who is Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top)
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Am I loving crazy or was Bones originally advertised as a realistic police procedural? I remember being so confused when I saw everyone standing around the hologram table from Star Wars.
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Billy Gibbons' daughter is on Bones Dusty Hill's cousin is on King Of The Hill When does Frank Hill get a turn?
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Also I know it sucks for actors to get typecast but it was kind of weird seeing Angie from Bones in For All Mankind as a space marine (I am here defining "an astronaut whose background was as a marine aviator, and as all marines receive rifle training, was therefore tasked with being armed on the moon" as a space marine)
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Feb 27, 2023 20:18
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Realistic kind of flew out the window on Bones once they did the Gormagon arc.
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Hey we're right in the middle of that one!
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