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Powershift posted:My favourite part is that they can make the speedometer go to any number, and the only space the car will ever occupy is still only a 40 degree sweep. Mine is the horrible color banding on that crap display
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Guinness posted:We live in a wild time when even pretty mundane cars are within spitting distance of a sub-6 second 0-60. You overlooked the RAV4 Prime, which is faster than a V6 Camry or Porsche Macan 0-60, in a family-oriented crossover!
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Powershift posted:My favourite part is that they can make the speedometer go to any number, and the only space the car will ever occupy is still only a 40 degree sweep. Send tubgirl to the driver’s display. Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jul 9, 2020 |
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I know we’re talking nearly 40 years for some of them but if you’ve seen any of the retro MotorWeek reviews on YouTube you’ll know how hilarious those stats are. Them marveling at a 0-60 time of 9 seconds or so is so pure. You’d be told that can’t get onto a US highway properly these days
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Jul 9, 2020 21:30
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Nut Bunnies posted:I know we’re talking nearly 40 years for some of them but if you’ve seen any of the retro MotorWeek reviews on YouTube you’ll know how hilarious those stats are. Them marveling at a 0-60 time of 9 seconds or so is so pure. You’d be told that can’t get onto a US highway properly these days "The braking was good, stopping in nearly a straight line."
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Jul 9, 2020 21:38
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You're not suppose to be driving the S class yourself right? Can't see the ugly gauges in the back seat.
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Russian Bear posted:You're not suppose to be driving the S class yourself right? Can't see the ugly gauges in the back seat. The back seats also get those ridiculous tablets with bezels from 2013, though.
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Russian Bear posted:You're not suppose to be driving the S class yourself right? Can't see the ugly gauges in the back seat. 2019 only had massage function in the front so unless they've now put it in the back this year I'd disagree. Being able to virtually lay down in the back, privacy blinds up AND get a massage would definitely be the way to go.
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Jul 9, 2020 22:07
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Our last car went from 0 to 100 in roundabout 14 seconds, and topped out at 180. That's not fast but it was fast enough for German Autobahn. I understand that my perspective on car culture is a bit skewed but to suggest that anyone needs 6 seconds or so acceleration times for their commute sounds more like a them problem not a car problem
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Jul 9, 2020 22:36
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But 'merica
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Jul 9, 2020 22:39
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How am I supposed to "humiliate and own" those around me at stoplight racing if I can't get under 5 seconds 0-60? Tesla buyers definitely think this.
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Lord Stimperor posted:Our last car went from 0 to 100 in roundabout 14 seconds, and topped out at 180. That's not fast but it was fast enough for German Autobahn. I understand that my perspective on car culture is a bit skewed but to suggest that anyone needs 6 seconds or so acceleration times for their commute sounds more like a them problem not a car problem The safest car is the one that can keep up with the prevailing flow of traffic so it’s not really something you can talk about in a vacuum. But no, nobody in America actually *needs* to get to 60 in less than 6 seconds for safety.
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Nut Bunnies posted:I know we’re talking nearly 40 years for some of them but if you’ve seen any of the retro MotorWeek reviews on YouTube you’ll know how hilarious those stats are. Them marveling at a 0-60 time of 9 seconds or so is so pure. You’d be told that can’t get onto a US highway properly these days Heh, I was just watching a bunch of those last night. 1993 BMW M5. Inflation adjusted price: 107,000USD. 0-60: 6 seconds. Observed fuel economy: 16mpg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4PMkQLT3rE The hot 1993 Mustang Cobra managed 5.6 though. 17mpg average. 
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sunaurus posted:
I think I had that Winamp skin.
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Guinness posted:We live in a wild time when even pretty mundane cars are within spitting distance of a sub-6 second 0-60. It's pretty mindblowing. The 94 Supra Turbo was 'fast' with a 5.5s 0-60.
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Tricky Ed posted:I think I had that Winamp skin. it really whips the llamas rear end
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LeeMajors posted:It's pretty mindblowing. The 94 Supra Turbo was 'fast' with a 5.5s 0-60. Starting to really understand why people who are older obsess over Corvette Stingrays, Plymouth Road Runners or Barracudas. When they were teenagers these cars were praised as some of the best performing cars. Leaves a mark on you growing up and then you always remember them as “fast” the way some millennials remember the Testarossa as fast even though it’s slow now.
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Mental Hospitality posted:Heh, I was just watching a bunch of those last night. 1993 BMW M5. Inflation adjusted price: 107,000USD. 0-60: 6 seconds. Observed fuel economy: 16mpg. The mpg that modern performance oriented cars can get is pretty impressive. I'm stage 1 on my F80 M3 so I should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 480-500whp. I got 28mpg highway on a tank a little while back. I can get 16 city without any real issues and if I'm not trying at all I'll get around 14 city.
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Jul 10, 2020 01:49
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Yeah it’s crazy the amount of performance that can be had these days for a bargain. Someone mentioned Testarossa’s earlier and I looked up how my mildly tuned FoRS stacks up against some prancing horses from yesterday. Turns out my hot hatch would easily hang with a 360 Modena and maybe pull away from it in the 1/4 mile, and I’m definitely confident it could easily hang with it in the twisties too.
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All of this performance malarkey just hammers home how much it doesn't matter, not really. The idea of a 'new car' is all emotional and vanity, mixed in with the realities of family requirements and funds available. I just want something I connect with and that's fun and that exemplifies what I want other people to think of me. That new Mercedes with that uggo dashboard and BMWs with their heated seat service is decidedly NOT what I'm after, personally.
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I just wish we could use all our modern materials and engineering to give cars thin A/B/C pillars again like they were pre-2000's.
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Mental Hospitality posted:I just wish we could use all our modern materials and engineering to give cars thin A/B/C pillars again like they were pre-2000's. Agreed. A proper greenhouse seems like a luxury now
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People haven't figured it out yet, but this right now is the final golden age of cars. You can get great, great power and handling on totally normal every day cars right now but they haven't been totally crippled by in-car loot crate rolls to unlock massaging seats that always give you a Monster Energy Drink skin for the infotainment instead.
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Imagine a world in which your car is constantly hauling around 900 lbs of extra equipment that you can't use because it's all walled behind digital unlocks and the engine and battery tech is good enough that manufacturers would just eat the weight penalty in the hopes that one day in a moment of weakness you sign up for a 19.99 annual subscription to use your heated windshield.
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Jul 10, 2020 06:00
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Someone will start selling more expensive models with the extra bits removed.
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The Oldest Man posted:Imagine a world in which your car is constantly hauling around 900 lbs of extra equipment that you can't use because it's all walled behind digital unlocks and the engine and battery tech is good enough that manufacturers would just eat the weight penalty in the hopes that one day in a moment of weakness you sign up for a 19.99 annual subscription to use your heated windshield. You joke but Telsa charges $300 for unlocking heated rear seats on their lower trim model 3's.
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mysteryberto posted:You joke but Telsa charges $300 for unlocking Fixed But for content, re speedo chat: I love how half the speedometer on my transit connect is above where it cuts fuel, not that it should be cruising that fast anyway but still.
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People are so used to the relatively narrow range of units used on speedos that seeing a 'correct' one where the needle is swinging all over like a tach would be disconcerting and weird
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Vauxhall perfected digital dashes in the 80s. Wait, no, I meant Lancia... 
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Mental Hospitality posted:I just wish we could use all our modern materials and engineering to give cars thin A/B/C pillars again like they were pre-2000's. I've said the same thing for years, I long for material science to move on from steel/alu as a mass manufacturing materials for cars. I mean 19 years ago Volvo realised this was a problem and on the car that turned into the S30 did this as a proof of concept. These days we're using tech to get around these problems but by using cameras instead of engineering.  
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I've said the same thing for years, I long for material science to move on from steel/alu as a mass manufacturing materials for cars. I dig it but I fear what happen instead is companies will cover the pillars with curves display screens. Then they'll make the pillars even bigger until we're all sitting in a neon genesis Evangelion tube
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Ror posted:Vauxhall perfected digital dashes in the 80s.  Like 2/3rds of the range is actually what you'll be using normally. It bothered me, as a nerd, that the scale wasn't consistent but in practice this worked well. mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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My old Mazdaspeed 3 used less than 1/4 of the gauge for speeds that are legal here  E. Also not sure what the top speed was but it sure as hell wasn't close to 280 dissss fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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Virgil Vox posted:Bring back the digital readout speedos My car has one and I love it
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dissss posted:My old Mazdaspeed 3 used less than 1/4 of the gauge for speeds that are legal here This is the gauge cluster I’m used to in the Speed3, I’ve never seen that other setup. I love the gauges starting at 6 o’clock. Top speed was limited to 155mph supposedly, which 250kph or thereabouts
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I don't like speedometers that are too optimistic. I don't wanna see all the speed that I could be experiencing had I bought a faster car. Just let me feel fast man
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Ror posted:Wait, no, I meant Lancia... The engineer in me appreciates the direct sensibility of that hub. Everything else is screaming in fright, “get it away!” mysteryberto posted:You joke but Telsa charges $300 for unlocking heated rear seats on their lower trim model 3's. I’m considering adding my car to my cellphone plan...
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Jul 10, 2020 13:08
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bring back the 85mph speedo rule imo
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:bring back the 85mph speedo rule imo Yeah, with the 55 mark circled.
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C-Bangin' it 