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Thundarr posted:I guess I don't get relatively high rank chocobo racing. I feel like if I'm not tilting up 100% of the time I'll never keep up, but there's no way to have enough endurance to pull that off. Whether I win or not comes down to lucky item pickups, and even then I lose more often than not. And gently caress if I want to grind dozens of losses just to get a rank 9 chocobo that can't win races either. At that level, having a bird without pretty good genetics, you shouldn't expect to win many races. The goal is generally just to do ok so that you still get good experience.
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So, I haven't played since the relaunch four years ago and was looking maybe getting into this again - am I going to have to buy both expansions at once, or will Stormblood include Heavensward? Irritatingly enough, it looks like Steam has Heaven'sward at 50% off, but everywhere else it's full price, and for some dumb reason a steam expansion key and a nonsteam realm reborn key are incompatible.
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Jan 2, 2017 10:58
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well i added an extra 0 to my crysta purchase, this is unfortunate am i totally hosed or can they refund me
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Jan 2, 2017 11:31
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i bet they won't gently caress
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Jan 2, 2017 11:40
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Thundarr posted:I guess I don't get relatively high rank chocobo racing. I feel like if I'm not tilting up 100% of the time I'll never keep up, but there's no way to have enough endurance to pull that off. Whether I win or not comes down to lucky item pickups, and even then I lose more often than not. And gently caress if I want to grind dozens of losses just to get a rank 9 chocobo that can't win races either. Relatively high rank chocobo racing is the worst because you (probably) haven't been using good feed so your stats kind of blow for the races you end up doing once your bird is level 20 or so. Pretty much just suck it up and push through until you breed an amazing rank 9 chocobo and then feed it the good stuff.
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Jan 2, 2017 12:24
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How many hours played is 1-49? I'm wondering if I should buy the base game and expansion now that they are on sale.
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Jan 2, 2017 13:08
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the panacea posted:How many hours played is 1-49? You could probably get to level 50 in around 40 hours if you didn't get sidetracked by anything. It took me probably 3 times that long because I switched jobs and leveled 3 or 4 classes into their 30s before I chose one to stick with. It COULD be done even faster once you have a max level job and are willing to grind out dungeon roulettes and Palace of the Dead over and over. But you might want to get the expansion because it will give you access to floors 11-150 of Palace of the Dead and it's a fun diversion from questing and doing the dungeon roulette. Hekk fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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Jan 2, 2017 13:15
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the panacea posted:How many hours played is 1-49? About 40-60 (it was closer to 60 when I did it but they've boosted experience so much that it's probably closer to 40 now). Then another 30 for the pre-expansion patch content and another 40 for heavensward.
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I think there was someone in this thread who leveled to 60 in under a week. They admitted not watching cutscenes at all which there are a lot of. 40-50 hours sounds about right with cutscenes and minimal extraneous content done.
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Ok thanks a lot. Might as well jump on it now I guess.
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Jan 2, 2017 13:29
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Here I was, excited because I had unlocked my first job. Whoo, I'm a Paladin! Then I read this thread. 
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Jan 2, 2017 15:57
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Wikipedia Brown posted:Here I was, excited because I had unlocked my first job. Whoo, I'm a Paladin! Play what you enjoy, the meta game and strengths/weaknesses of the class mean nothing if you like what you're playing.
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chinese barbecue porp posted:I think there was someone in this thread who leveled to 60 in under a week. They admitted not watching cutscenes at all which there are a lot of. 40-50 hours sounds about right with cutscenes and minimal extraneous content done. Hi that was me. It was about a week and a half. Yes its possible. I don't recommend you do it unless you hate yourself though. I think I was playing like 12 hours a day.
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So while I'm downloading this: any recommendations what I should level first? I'd like something with strong Soloskills and used to tank in other MMOs.
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Wolpertinger posted:So, I haven't played since the relaunch four years ago and was looking maybe getting into this again - am I going to have to buy both expansions at once, or will Stormblood include Heavensward? Irritatingly enough, it looks like Steam has Heaven'sward at 50% off, but everywhere else it's full price, and for some dumb reason a steam expansion key and a nonsteam realm reborn key are incompatible. Looks like Amazon has HW for $10 right now.
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Jan 2, 2017 16:17
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Every job is capable of soloing whatever. Thm is mandatory if you want to play any spellcasting class for cross class skills.. Warriors are good starters too.
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the panacea posted:So while I'm downloading this: any recommendations what I should level first? I'd like something with strong Soloskills and used to tank in other MMOs. Marauder.
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Jan 2, 2017 16:18
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The Chairman posted:Marauder.
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Jan 2, 2017 16:19
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Wikipedia Brown posted:Here I was, excited because I had unlocked my first job. Whoo, I'm a Paladin! Dude I love PLD. It's a great job. Don't sweat the haters. I've ran multiple low 12 minute Xelphatols with a paladin tank including a 12:02 and we've had multiple sub 11 minute Libraries with the same tank. Paladin does require the most activity when dealing with packs of mobs out of the three tanks, and that's why most people don't like it.
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Strong soloskills while being a tank you say?The Chairman posted:Marauder. Mr. Nice! posted:Dude I love PLD. It's a great job. Don't sweat the haters. Seriously, the thread is generally obsessed with min-maxing to a level that isn't even necessary in Savage. If you like Paladin, play Paladin.
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Wikipedia Brown posted:Here I was, excited because I had unlocked my first job. Whoo, I'm a Paladin! Paladin is fine. Balance in this game is mostly fine. There are minor imbalances but they mostly only pop up for world-firsters. There is nothing like the crazy imbalance that existed (and to my knowledge, still exists) in WoW where some specs may as well not exist. That said... the panacea posted:So while I'm downloading this: any recommendations what I should level first? I'd like something with strong Soloskills and used to tank in other MMOs. Marauder and arcanist are the closest thing to straight busted this game has. They are both highly in demand for raids and both are incredible solo classes. Be aware that SE has commented on these classes being a bit too strong in all areas of content and their dominance may not last into Stormblood. "A long interview in Famitsu posted:Q5. Now we'd like to get into job balance. Thanks to your careful balancing, there isn't a single job that can't clear all content. We think that is marvelous, but i feel warriors and Scholars are a little..you know? My personal take is that I think they can probably get equilibrium between the tanks but I have no idea how they can ever fix scholar short of giving whm's and ast's a pet too.
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Failboattootoot posted:Paladin is fine. Balance in this game is mostly fine. There are minor imbalances but they mostly only pop up for world-firsters. There is nothing like the crazy imbalance that existed (and to my knowledge, still exists) in WoW where some specs may as well not exist. Thanks a lot for the insight. So this is the first game where a pet-class just does not straight up suck?! I might as well go with that.
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cheetah7071 posted:If you play a Lalafell you have objectively bad taste
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Failboattootoot posted:My personal take is that I think they can probably get equilibrium between the tanks but I have no idea how they can ever fix scholar short of giving whm's and ast's a pet too. They don't need a pet, but they need less punishing ability to have a constant HoT up. Regen is great, but it has a short duration. Medica II is incredible, but it has a high mana cost and builds aggro like crazy. Make regen last 30 seconds or something and give some sort of passive enmity reduction on big HoTs. For AST, I'm not really familiar enough with the job to speculate, but I've played a lot of scholar and white mage going back to 2.0, and white mage has almost as much dicking around time as scholar does in cleric stance with all their HoTs up, but that can be an enmity nightmare and drains mana too fast.
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Picked up Heavensward since it was only $10 on amazon which was the excuse I was looking for to actually play this thing. Bought the original game around launch but due to a bunch of factors I won't get into I only managed to play about 3 hours of that entire free month and hadn't touched the game since. Guessing there's no benefit to continuing to play my super old untouched character and I'm good to reroll, right? Also, the updater is giving me some kind of issue, it's having trouble downloading files and I have to keep restarting it. I can't tell if it's making progress or just trying to redownload the same file over and over. Running as admin didn't seem to fix it and googling it tells me I need to change my DNS which is probably beyond my tech knowledge. Is there some easy fix for this? An alternate download maybe? also, is there any way for me to get those yokai watch things or is that gone forever
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Yokai Watch is gone for good, you missed the boat on that. It's technically possible but realistically extremely unlikely that they'll run a repeat of the event. Updater issues basically boil down to certain internet connections/routes cutting off temporarily during the download of some big file, which forces the updater to keep trying over and over to download that file. Usually you can get around it by using a VPN service, which through different routing can avoid the cutoff in the first place.
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Vil posted:Yokai Watch is gone for good, you missed the boat on that. It's technically possible but realistically extremely unlikely that they'll run a repeat of the event. More likely it ends up in the cash shop eventually.
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Failboattootoot posted:My personal take is that I think they can probably get equilibrium between the tanks but I have no idea how they can ever fix scholar short of giving whm's and ast's a pet too. WHM gets auto-life and/or some unlimited duration AoE regen, and AST gets Chaos Orb as a bonus card. Thundarr fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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Wikipedia Brown posted:Here I was, excited because I had unlocked my first job. Whoo, I'm a Paladin! One thing you really have to understand about this thread is that it's full of people who have put a lot of time into the game and have a lot of experience with the various aspects, and are thus more aware of the various flaws. Also that criticisms of parts of a thing don't necessarily mean the whole thing is bad. Don't feel bad about your class selection, but do be aware of its strengths and weaknesses. It's unfortunate that paladins suck rear end at AOE, but there are no better tanks in terms of pure survivability.
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Failboattootoot posted:My personal take is that I think they can probably get equilibrium between the tanks but I have no idea how they can ever fix scholar short of giving whm's and ast's a pet too. Well, the main advantage of scholar is that they can heal while doing damage, so I think one solution is to have a healer that can heal through doing damage.
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Fister Roboto posted:Well, the main advantage of scholar is that they can heal while doing damage, so I think one solution is to have a healer that can heal through doing damage. Assize exists, though.
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Holy is the best heal in the game by an extremely large margin.
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Yeah I kind of figured the Yokai Watch stuff was gone forever, oh well. Maybe it'll return when they release another Yokai Watch game or something as a cross-promo thing in the future. Who knows. Assuming I get the launcher to behave long enough to actually download the game, is there any big major dumb first-timer mistakes that I need to avoid or can I just kind of gently caress around and do whatever and not have any problems?
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Kelp Plankton posted:Assuming I get the launcher to behave long enough to actually download the game
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Mymla posted:Holy is the best heal in the game by an extremely large margin. Holy is incredible in aoe situations and more white mages should be aware that swiftcast holy followed by another two holies stun locks a pack for 7-8 seconds. They'll get a single auto attack out during the third cast but that shouldnt matter. Basically if you're a white mage you should be sprinting to keep up with the tank and immediately spamming holy into the pack. If the tank gets critical just benediction him and cast another holy.
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Thanks, you've all made me feel better about my Paladin.  Plus, I plan on leveling up a bunch of other classes anyway. I'm glad it's not like FFXI, where people found such weirdly unintended optimal ways to play that tons of jobs just weren't considered viable.
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Kelp Plankton posted:Yeah I kind of figured the Yokai Watch stuff was gone forever, oh well. Maybe it'll return when they release another Yokai Watch game or something as a cross-promo thing in the future. Who knows. There's nothing you can do to lock yourself out of content or miss something permanently. Make sure you keep up with your class/job quests and the main scenario since most things are tied to that, and look at the gated content guide linked in the OP for everything else.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Use a VPN. I know that sounds like a joke, but someone else posted that they used CyberGhost 6, and then I had the same issue reinstalling on my new HD, and using that somehow fixed it. I don't know what bizarre network voodoo they're voo-doing over there at SE but at least it's easily fixed. Yeah just used Cyberghost since I saw it mentioned elsewhere and seems like it's doing the job. Bizzare but at least it's easy enough I guess. Thanks for the help yall.
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Kelp Plankton posted:Yeah I kind of figured the Yokai Watch stuff was gone forever, oh well. Maybe it'll return when they release another Yokai Watch game or something as a cross-promo thing in the future. Who knows. In a year they may add the Yo-kai items to the mog station for sale, if you like paying $9 for a catte sword and $30 for a glowing scooty puff mount. The main thing to keep in mind as a newbie is to always keep working on main story quests (with the meteor icon), since they unlock almost every game feature over time. The next most important are the class quests given by your class trainer every five levels. Then, any quest with a blue icon since those also unlock features. Yellow ! quests just give XP and items and maybe an amusing story, but you can literally ignore all of these and still get more than enough XP just from the first three.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Assize exists, though. Well that's not really the same thing, and it's not even close to what a scholar and fairy can do. I was thinking more like a buff that WHM or AST could put on a single target that would cause a portion of their damage to heal said target.
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